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Panasonic GZ2000 OLED

https://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.ph...&id=1546917571

Hopefully Panasonic comes out with a 77" version this year. The last 77" was 2 years ago.
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Looks good except the “confirmed For Europe Only” isn’t entirely accurate as Panasonic is also sold heavily in Canada as well.


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Looks good except the “confirmed For Europe Only” isn’t entirely accurate as Panasonic is also sold heavily in Canada as well.


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I really like the Aesthetic look of this set. Especially the bottom speaker section with the Panasonic logo on it.
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The BIGGEST gripe people had with panasonic oled has been addressed. Dolby Vision is now supported.

Good move by panasonic. Bad news is it doesn't seem FZ or EZ would be upgraded to dolby.

But i was very much expecting 2019 panasonic oleds to jump on dolby vision after some of their blu ray players in 2018 started supporting it.

Need some more details about the panel and whether it supports hdmi 2.1.

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Btw, why does panasonic every year have to go on announcing tuned by hollywood colorist xyz, this one does the same. and while panasonic's colour preset modes are great out of the box , but who cares which hollywood stalwart tuned it, i dont care. this sounds kinda like a cheap marketing stunt they keep employing.
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^I'll take that marketing scheme any day over the confusing crap samfung peddles.
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^I'll take that marketing scheme any day over the confusing crap samfung peddles.
Well samsung's marketing dept. has been notorious historically, but pana wasn't like that during the days of plasma. When you go to demo the panasonic they have a tag attached in the corner boasting tuned by hollywood professional, maybe they attract some people by saying that, it's irrelevant to me. and not like hollywood does anything great these days anyway.
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^when it comes to emmissive displays they can slap whatever Hollywood name they want on it, it will sell and most videophiles will buy. Too bad they don't sell here anymore.
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Hopefully Panasonic comes out with a 77" version this year. The last 77" was 2 years ago.
Not according to that press release info. Shame, on them if they don't especially since Sony is bringing the 77" back this year. It was a mistake that both Sony and Panasonic left out the 77" models last year. Granted I suspect the 77" sales are minuscule compared to the 55" and 65" models but in order to compete with the big LCD displays the 77" was OLED's only player in the game at those sizes.

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Vincent at HDTVTEst just posted a brief video. It appears he was able to find out that this won't have a true HDMI 2.1 chipset but will have ALLM for us gamers. No mention of VRR though. Seems the flagship model at least will be limited to 55" and 65". In the other video posted above it would seem there may be other models below the 2000 flagship so I suppose it's possible that line could have a 77" but of course without the video improvements touted for the flagship. I guess we'll have to wait until February to get all of the details.


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Wow. This one and A9G are now at the top of my list.

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There should be a second line coming out in February according a video interview. Probably the same picture quality w/o the Technics tuned integrated sound system.
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ugh, They need to re-enter the US market.
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Please release asap.

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& Australia!
& Asia & South Africa. The only ones off the panasonic map are u.s. and south america.
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Vincent at HDTVTEst just posted a brief video. It appears he was able to find out that this won't have a true HDMI 2.1 chipset but will have ALLM for us gamers. No mention of VRR though. Seems the flagship model at least will be limited to 55" and 65". In the other video posted above it would seem there may be other models below the 2000 flagship so I suppose it's possible that line could have a 77" but of course without the video improvements touted for the flagship. I guess we'll have to wait until February to get all of the details.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1uXQ_9aAzc
vincent says the first tv in the world that has both hdr10+ and dv, but does that even matter when hdr10+ content is almost non existent? Also if your tv has good dynamic tone mapping hdr option with standard hdr10, hdr10+ is moot.
hdr10+ will never catch up, it will wither like hd dvd ended up against blu ray. Good that panasonic showed sense and started including dolby vision this year, which has ample content on streaming and discs.

The GZ2000 will be panasonic's flagship model, which means with all the sound bells and whistles attached to it and a high price tag, for people who dont care about tv sound, there will be lower priced models available having the same PQ which panasonic will announce at their february event.
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In the AVForums video, the Panasonic rep mentions custom panels from LG that result in a 30% increase in APL (average picture level) - I'm assuming the C9's and AG9 (A9G) also get this new panel with 30% increase in brightness. If we assume that is compared to the 2018 panels (LG's C8 panel gets to about 800 nits, not sure how bright the Panasonic panel from 2018 got) then the 2019 panels should hit over 1000 nits, which is a good bump in brightness. Comparing the C7 Panel to the C8 panel, the C8 is only about 15% brighter.

Even if the Panasonic panel was closer to the 2017 brightness at 700 nits, that is ~900 nits which is still improved although more in line with the 2017 LG to 2018 LG brightness jump (about 15%).
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In the AVForums video, the Panasonic rep mentions custom panels from LG that result in a 30% increase in APL (average picture level) - I'm assuming the C9's and AG9 (A9G) also get this new panel with 30% increase in brightness. If we assume that is compared to the 2018 panels (LG's C8 panel gets to about 800 nits, not sure how bright the Panasonic panel from 2018 got) then the 2019 panels should hit over 1000 nits, which is a good bump in brightness. Comparing the C7 Panel to the C8 panel, the C8 is only about 15% brighter.

Even if the Panasonic panel was closer to the 2017 brightness at 700 nits, that is ~900 nits which is still improved although more in line with the 2017 LG to 2018 LG brightness jump (about 15%).
I measured 820 nits on a 10% window on my 2018 panny, there is another member on here that measured similar. 2019 Panasonic's are looking nice!
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It can always be imported from Canada if someone wants it that bad. I am surprised that Panasonic decided to release their flagship UB9000 player here but keeps giving us the middle finger for TVs.
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vincent says the first tv in the world that has both hdr10+ and dv, but does that even matter when hdr10+ content is almost non existent? Also if your tv has good dynamic tone mapping hdr option with standard hdr10, hdr10+ is moot.

I'm not sure that is true. Doesn't HDR 10+ add dynamic metadata for optimal HDR settings on a frame by frame basis?
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It can always be imported from Canada if someone wants it that bad. I am surprised that Panasonic decided to release their flagship UB9000 player here but keeps giving us the middle finger for TVs.
They are also MUCH more expensive than the LG models here in Canada as well.
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With the exchange rate the Panasonic’s can be a great value. I know a friend who is a Panasonic dealer who ships straight to Americans as has lots of orders rolling in. I expect that to continue this year.


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^so if i wanted to i could order this one and shipped to my home?
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Yes when released. Obviously I don’t know when that will be, hopefully soon. I might have to get one for myself.


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Release date in July? That’s summer 2019.

Took Panasonic almost the entire year to release UB9000.

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Release date in July? That’s summer 2019.

Took Panasonic almost the entire year to release UB9000.
They are generally very late to realease their gear, specially here in Canada. 2018 Oleds weren't released until end of September/ beginning of October.

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^so if i wanted to i could order this one and shipped to my home?
If you need warranty service, you'd be SOL. Perhaps a 3rd party would help.
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Btw, why does panasonic every year have to go on announcing tuned by hollywood colorist xyz, this one does the same. and while panasonic's colour preset modes are great out of the box , but who cares which hollywood stalwart tuned it, i dont care. this sounds kinda like a cheap marketing stunt they keep employing.


But if Panasonic colors are considered the best by calibrators and they did indeed work with a Hollywood stalwart to tune it then why shouldn't they market that information? Because you don't like hearing it?
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