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Don't buy a "QLED" just because the acronym is so similar to OLED. That "Q" set is just an LED backlit quantum-dot LCD and is nothing like an OLED.
I’m aware of the difference, thanks.
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Instead of posting on here about how much better your Qled is, why not go back to your section and figure out to cure black crush and the ridiculous cartoonish colors associated with your favorite brand.
I also think that QD/LCD is somewhat hokey, and totally yet another thing that Samsung was attempting to save face with when their OLED droplet technique didn't pan out, but in Samsung's defense (<----It feels really unnatural for me to say that) the "ridiculous cartoonish colors" aren't a bad thing by themselves, they're only bad on an uncalibrated set. The silly oversaturation that they're showing off is what allows for a larger color space for their CMS to work with. Everything for a few years now has been in pursuit of BT.2020, (currently we're usually bottlenecked at DCI-P3).

Anyway, back to our regularly scheduled whatever this was. I defended Samsung. I feel like I need a shower....
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ABL stands for Automatic Brightness Limiter. Typically, it only kicks in will full screen content and during very bright scenes. It limits the peak brightness in those situations. Compared to LCDs that don't have ABL, a full white screen on OLED will appear like a dull white or very light gray, whereas on an LCD, the white will be more vibrant, pure white. Same thing with yellow and other "bright" colors. Full screen yellow can appear a bit dull on OLED vs and LCD with no ABL. Also by limiting the peak brightness during bright scenes, it has a negative impact on contrast during such scenes. As mentioned above, you tend to get used to it, and it only affects a small percentage of scenes almost always with full screen content. I'm not sure why the limitation exists on OLEDs.
The Automatic Brightness Limiter exists to limit the amount of power consumed by the WOLED panel (in an attempt to limit the amount of hear generated by that power - it's the heat that can cause damage).

Especially if you are used to plasma-like peak brighness levels of ~120cd/m2, you are exceedibgly unlikely to find WOLED ABL frequent or annoying - 2018 WOLEDs support full-frame peak brightness of 150cd/m2 and if only 25% of the screen is driven near peak levels, you can get to over 360 cd/m2 of ouput (~3 x the brightness of plasma) before ABL kicks in.

The attached graph is now a bit outdated because it does not include 2018 where 100% limits were improved from 130cd/m2 to 150cd/m2, but this provides a pictoral view of ABL limits as a function of screen % and how LGD has been relaxing these limits through subsequent generations:
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"Guys, I'm worried about OLED"
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"It's not an issue"
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"Don't worry, I think I'll buy a Samsung!"

Call me cynical but this happens too often to be a coincidence.
You've got yo wonder if the technique is even effective.

"After watching several videos about this"

What this, ABL

Without any links to these purported videos that so easily scared you into the QLED/LCD camp to help the many others likely to follow in your footsteps.

I'm just ticked off because I read the original post about concern regarding ABL and actually got suckered into providing an explanation...
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TV shopping & looking at LG and Sony OLEDS, but am concerned about ABL.
I had a Panasonic plasma with auto adjusting ABL that drove me insane – could really see the shifting brightness. Would that be a problem with LG or Sony OLEDs? Thanks!
The only time you might see ABL affecting your picture is during a James Bond movie.
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The only time you might see ABL affecting your picture is during a James Bond movie.
IF you watch those movies with peak brightness cranked up over 200cd/m2.

Any easy way to measure the APL of those scenes? I doubt even the brightest of them exceeds 80% and even that would mean you could watch calibrated to 190cd/m2 peak without seeing ABL kick-in...
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You guys might appreciate this. (@fafrd, this is worth a chuckle).

I was looking for an article I read a couple years ago about potential wear curves (or lack thereof) associated with quantum dot emission, and tried googling around using my search criteria (I thought it was "do quantum dots wear out").

Take a look at the 2nd to last in the list of related searches reported by google:

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^none of what you listed qualifies samfung "qled" over Oled. Let's be real, Qled is nothing more than a marketing ploy to confuse consumers...everyone with half a brain on here knows that. The simple fact of the matter is that anything Q related is mediocre at best and is beat by Vizio, and let's not even mention the 2 year old Z9D...Instead of posting on here about how much better your Qled is, why not go back to your section and figure out to cure black crush and the ridiculous cartoonish colors associated with your favorite brand.
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Just reading the OLED Screen Uniformity Discussion-Banding and Vignetting has caused me to lose some sanity.. Pretty sure I want an OLED as well I just don't know when that's going to be....
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Just reading the OLED Screen Uniformity Discussion-Banding and Vignetting has caused me to lose some sanity.. Pretty sure I want an OLED as well I just don't know when that's going to be....
It's simple enough to return a tv if you get one your not happy with. Perhaps a bit more difficult if it's bought off the internet then locally. But still doable. Banding and vignetting are things beyond your control.

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I'll get back to you in March, if not sooner, when my first qled 8k TV arrives; the best TV of the year, I hear from Mark.
I've heard the same thing for the last 5 years from Samsung and their owners but never materializes to be true.

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That fellow isn't the final arbiter of what makes a great TV. Anybody who receives direct/indirect manufacturer compensation is suspect AFAIC.

Samsung hasn't reached the best TV of the year category since 2013 before they gave up on emissive.
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I've heard the same thing for the last 5 years from Samsung and their owners but never materializes to be true.


Everyone gets out over their skis every year with lcd , the source being quoted is not objective , I would use a stronger adjective but I think you get my point .


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I've heard the same thing for the last 5 years from Samsung and their owners but never materializes to be true.
Yup. Remember all the hype the Q9FN got last year? Funny how quickly that set was forgotten.

I'm sure Samsung will pay some two bit reviewers to sing praises for their new lineup. But they will be quickly put in their proper place when the pro calibrators get their hands on them.

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Everyone gets out over their skis every year with lcd , the source being quoted is not objective , I would use a stronger adjective but I think you get my point .
Oh yes, No evidence to offer, but we are here in the oled den, so anyone who posts anything favorable about lcd TVs is sure to be insulted. It's just routine tribalism.

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^lol tribalism??? Seriously you came on here making big claims with what evidence yourself...oh mark says it will be the best tv of the year??? I mean that's just ridiculous...Samsung fanboyism at it's best...and I own a "qled" myself.
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^lol tribalism??? Seriously you came on here making big claims with what evidence yourself...oh mark says it will be the best tv of the year??? I mean that's just ridiculous...Samsung fanboyism at it's best...and I own a "qled" myself.
What big claim did I make? Or is this just another routine tribal insult?

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^why dont you go look back at post 20 and 29 of this very thread to refresh your memory. Your tribalism comments are baffling yet funny🤣🤣🤣
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Oh yes, No evidence to offer, but we are here in the oled den, so anyone who posts anything favorable about lcd TVs is sure to be insulted. It's just routine tribalism.

Oh really ? Lol your schtick is getting old . You are the one that is so insecure about qled that you feel compelled to hang out in an oled “den” .



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^why dont you go look back at post 20 and 29 of this very thread to refresh your memory. Your tribalism comments are baffling yet funny🤣🤣🤣
I just did as you suggest. I did make some factual claims, but they are all common knowledge and uncontroversial. In post #29 I said Mark had called the 8k Samsung the best TV of the year. That's true -- he did.
In post #20 , I said "Too true. With QLED: No burn-in, higher brightness, no ABL, better color volume, 8k currently available. Be careful not to mistakenly get an OLED because the name is similar to QLED." There are 5 factual claims there, all true and widely known facts. Do you dispute any of them? If so, which?

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^hmmm so what your saying is that because Mark said that the new 2019 are going to be the best tvs of the year...you take that as fact? So we should all just take him at his word...sorry even my 19 year is not that gullible. Come back to this thread when samsung actually produces a tv that is more about picture quality rather than confusing marketing gimmicks, such as oh let's see SUHD who new what that meant, oh and now Qled that makes even more sense, because we shouldn't confuse that with oled right??? Laughable. Oh and as far as your list...higher brightness, um last I checked that's not at the top of the chain as far as pq goes, so do yourself a favor and research contrast...color volume...um come back when samsung figures out how to make colors look natural not cartoonish, I have first hand experience...abl is not bad as it's made out to be...8k sorry but this argument falls flat as every brand has one coming out this year. With all your indisputable facts, samsung still falls short...no one ever really compares the best to a samsung, that's usually reserved for other brands and Oled...Wha is common knowledge is that we hear the same tune every year with oh guess what the same results...a forgettable tv from samsung.
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^hmmm so what your saying is that because Mark said that the new 2019 are going to be the best tvs of the year...you take that as fact? So we should all just take him at his word...sorry even my 19 year is not that gullible.
I didn't say those things. Can you tell the difference between a fact and an opinion?


Above you said with derision that I had made "big claims". Are you going to tell us at some point what these "big claims" were?

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This happens every year the “oled killer” nonsense , yes qled brings things to the table but at the end of the day I am going to buy what I want even if some folks want to tell me what to think and buy . This is really tiresome that every single thread like this degenerates into a bunch of hyperbole .



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^hmmm so what your saying is that because Mark said that the new 2019 are going to be the best tvs of the year...you take that as fact? So we should all just take him at his word...sorry even my 19 year is not that gullible. Come back to this thread when samsung actually produces a tv that is more about picture quality rather than confusing marketing gimmicks, such as oh let's see SUHD who new what that meant, oh and now Qled that makes even more sense, because we shouldn't confuse that with oled right??? Laughable. Oh and as far as your list...higher brightness, um last I checked that's not at the top of the chain as far as pq goes, so do yourself a favor and research contrast...color volume...um come back when samsung figures out how to make colors look natural not cartoonish, I have first hand experience...abl is not bad as it's made out to be...8k sorry but this argument falls flat as every brand has one coming out this year. With all your indisputable facts, samsung still falls short...no one ever really compares the best to a samsung, that's usually reserved for other brands and Oled...Wha is common knowledge is that we hear the same tune every year with oh guess what the same results...a forgettable tv from samsung.
Yep, the tried and true brightness argument. Fail. Blacks and contrast are king for PQ. They are #1 and #1 a for a quality TV picture. Color volume? Ummm... the millions of colors that OLED can display are quite fine, thanks. Brightness? Again... barely an issue but certainly a GoTo card for the LCD gang. 8K? Couldn’t matter less until we are talking screen sizes that get far to large for the vast majority of users.

Look, I owned a Samsung plasma and thought it was pretty good. Their LCDs are decent products overall and serve their purpose while filling a market segment. That’s all fine. But those QLED sets aren’t in the same class of display as the OLED offerings from LG or Sony or anyone else. They just aren’t. The high end Sony LCDs are probably the best that the technology has to offer.
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This happens every year the “oled killer” nonsense , yes qled brings things to the table but at the end of the day I am going to buy what I want even if some folks want to tell me what to think and buy . This is really tiresome that every single thread like this degenerates into a bunch of hyperbole .
I couldn't care less what you think and buy. I dislike being insulted because my opinion differs from yours. That's especially tiresome. The threads degenerate when you become abusive.

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I couldn't care less what you think and buy. I dislike being insulted because my opinion differs from yours. That's especially tiresome. The threads degenerate when you become abusive.


You keep quoting me when I wasn’t addressing you , that is rude . I am done talking to you . Enjoy your day.


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I couldn't care less what you think and buy. I dislike being insulted because my opinion differs from yours. That's especially tiresome. The threads degenerate when you become abusive.

Hey sorry I'm late, was making popcorn. After catching up I'm just wondering why you're here? As posted upthread you're the guy who toasts QLED while hanging out in an OLED forum. Hey that's cool and all but I did the research. I'm not the confused consumer that Samsung is after with their pathetic name theft marketing scheme. I know that OLED and QLED are nothing alike.


I've got nothing against your opinion... my only suggestion is you'll get a lot more positive feedback regarding QLED over in the LCD forum.


In other news, I did watch a couple 4K movies on my calibrated OLED this weekend... "Hereditary" and "The Nun." Both are horror films... very dark and full of blacks. OMG was it an amazing viewing experience! That's one of the things I read prior to purchase! OLED absolutely destroys LCD in dark room viewing and since my HT is a blacked out room I went with it!


Not disappointed 1 year and 2200 viewing hours after purchase! Sorry! I'm one of those guys who just doesn't give 2 *#&#s about brightness! If I did I'd have bought a QLED!



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This happens every year the “oled killer” nonsense , yes qled brings things to the table but at the end of the day I am going to buy what I want even if some folks want to tell me what to think and buy . This is really tiresome that every single thread like this degenerates into a bunch of hyperbole .



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What's really sad is how so many people are just flat out misinformed but I guess that's the consumer that Samsung is targeting. I can't tell you how many times I've read a review on a QLED TV on the major electronics retailers sites and the first thing I read is something along the lines of "I bought a QLED because I don't want to watch a burned in TV." Hell I had a guy flaming me here as recently as last week about it... I made the comment on a movie review about how good it looked on my OLED and he replied with some garbage like "OLED, the TV you can watch when the power is on and off."


I must be doing something wrong then because I've been watching movies for a year with 2200 hours on mine and I have none of this BI that people keep talking about.


I guess I should call SeaTac and ask them if they want to borrow my OLED to display their arrivals and departures.
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I must be doing something wrong then because I've been watching movies for a year with 2200 hours on mine and I have none of this BI that people keep talking about.
I had an Lg OLED for a year and never noticed any BI. However, I see some people complaining about it.

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