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LG Announces 2019 OLED Pricing & Availability

2019 LG OLED TVs with AI ThinQ


C9 LG OLED TVs


77-inch class (76.8 inches diagonal) OLED77C9PUB: $6,999 (available in May)

65-inch class (64.5 inches diagonal) OLED65C9PUA: $3,499 (available in April)

55-inch class (54.6 inches diagonal) OLED55C9PUA: $2,499 (available in April)

E9 LG OLED TVs (Glass TVs)

65-inch class (64.5 inches diagonal) OLED65E9PUA: $4,299 (available in April)

55-inch class (54.6 inches diagonal) OLED55E9PUA: $3,299 (available in June)

W9 LG SIGNATURE OLED TVs (Wallpaper)

77-inch class (76.7 inches diagonal) OLED77W9PUA: $12,999 (available in June)

65-inch class (64.5 inches diagonal) OLED65W9PUA: $6,999 (available in June)

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"LG Electronics USA announced that the first of its highly-anticipated 2019 LG OLED TVs with AI ThinQ®, will debut in April with the arrival of the 65-inch E9 and C9 models at LG-authorized dealers nationwide. Additional models and screen sizes will follow in May and June with other LG OLED models announced later in the year.

The 2019 LG OLED TV lineup features screen sizes ranging from 55 to 77-inch class options consisting of the W9 series (models 77/65W9), E9 (models 65/55E9) and C9 (models 77/65/55C9).

Previewed at CES® 2019, the new LG OLED TVs elevate picture and sound quality thanks to the company’s advanced Alpha (α)9 Gen 2 intelligent processor which uses artificial intelligence and deep learning technology with an extensive database of visual information. This allows the processor to optimize images by recognizing source quality and implementing the best algorithm to display a stunningly real image. The processor also analyzes ambient room lighting conditions to achieve the optimal level of screen brightness.

The end result is a new generation of LG OLED TVs that set a new standard for TV performance delivering stellar picture quality, perfect black, vibrant images, accurate colors and wide viewing angles all in a sleek package with ultra-thin bezels and in more large-screen options this year than ever before.

LG OLED TVs this year will support Apple AirPlay 2 and Apple HomeKit for easy streaming of video and audio content and connectivity to Apple’s smart home products. New in 2019, LG OLED TVs add Amazon Alexa support to complement the Google Assistant which is already built-in, making LG the only TV brand to provide support for both leading voice assistant platforms without the need for additional hardware.* All 2019 LG OLED TVs include the LG Magic Remote which enables you to access both voice assistant platforms and control compatible smart home devices using just your voice.

LG’s flagship TVs feature Dolby Vision for an outstanding HDR experience and Dolby Atmos for realistic, dimensional audio. The α9 Gen 2 also adds artificial intelligence to audio. This feature enables the TV to provide a virtual 5.1 channel up-mix to the 2 channel source material, providing an expanded sound field.

“LG OLED is already widely recognized as the best TV technology in the market. In 2019 we’re building on that legacy of leadership by using cutting-edge processing technology based on Deep Learning,” said Tim Alessi, head of home entertainment product marketing at LG Electronics USA. “This will elevate picture and sound quality even further, solidifying the reputation of LG OLED as the best picture available. The addition of Alexa and Apple AirPlay 2 to our ThinQ platform combines with the built-in Google Assistant making them the easiest to use as well. It will certainly be an exciting year of amazing TV options from LG."

LG OLED 2019 models support HDMI 2.1 to offer a host of advanced features such as 4K high frame rate content (4K HFR), automatic low latency mode (ALLM), variable refresh rate (VRR) and enhanced audio return channel (eARC)."

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Well that pretty much kills 77C9 for me.

"2019 is the year of 77 OLED" and then these prices? Really LG? $2500 more for HDMI 2.1 and better motion processing, no thanks!

Guess I have to reconsider getting a Samsung.
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Yeah, the 77C9 is a no go at that price. I can't justify double the price for 12" more. It will be the 65C9 for me which is still 5" bigger than my current plasma.
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Glad I am only interested in the 65 inch.
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Well that pretty much kills 77C9 for me.

"2019 is the year of 77 OLED" and then these prices? Really LG? $2500 more for HDMI 2.1 and better motion processing, no thanks!

Guess I have to reconsider getting a Samsung.
That Samsung 82" Q90R @ 6,499 MSRP may be awfully tempting now. Can't believe I'll be going back to LCD from OLED...but I need size. 65" no longer cuts it.

Maybe LG will quickly realize their pricing is off, and adjust within a few months.
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Yeah, the 77C9 is a no go at that price. I can't justify double the price for 12" more. It will be the 65C9 for me which is still 5" bigger than my current plasma.
My guess is some 77C9 will retail for $1k less and by black friday will be close to $5k.
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Yeah, the 77C9 is a no go at that price. I can't justify double the price for 12" more. It will be the 65C9 for me which is still 5" bigger than my current plasma.
I have the 77C8 and those 12” made a huge difference in movie watching in my HT. Don't know what your needs are but if you aren't a big gamer or need the new HDMI changes, maybe look for the coming discounts on the C8.
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That Samsung 82" Q90R @ 6,499 MSRP may be awfully tempting now. Can't believe I'll be going back to LCD from OLED...but I need size. 65" no longer cuts it.

Maybe LG will quickly realize their pricing is off, and adjust within a few months.
OLED is better but some of the hyperbole on this forum about LCD is absurd. The Samsung is an excellent TV.
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Well that pretty much kills 77C9 for me.

"2019 is the year of 77 OLED" and then these prices? Really LG? $2500 more for HDMI 2.1 and better motion processing, no thanks!

Guess I have to reconsider getting a Samsung.
Yeah, a launch MSRP of $7000 means LG is not really targetting marketshare gains in the 75/77" segment this year (as they had claimed). Of course, the discounted pricing they are offering in November is a more important driver of sales levels than launch MSRP, but any early adopters are obviously going to consider the Samsung 75/82Q90 a much more attractive choice than the 77C9.

Now to be fair, the MSRP of the 77C9 is almost 30% lower than the launch MSRP of the 77C8 (compared to the launch MSRPs of the 65C9 and 55C9, which matched the launch MSRPs of the 65C8 and 55C8), so they are getting there, but it's just going to take another year or two at this rate...
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77-inch class (76.8 inches diagonal) OLED77C9PUB: $6,999 (available in May)

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Hope it has a better QC done compare to two sick C8 65s I went through. Hope powers to be at LG are reading my experience . I love the TV tho but.....

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Looks I'll be waiting another year for a 77".

Same, but that was the plan all along. Got the 65" B7 in Feb 2018 and I'm totally happy with it. Told myself I'd upgrade in 2020 and after seeing this 77" price I've got no reason to bite early.


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LG has a lot of nerve STILL asking a premium price for these panels when the non OLED TV makers models are getting dangerously close in quality at far better prices.
That's the great thing about capitalism. We get to vote with our wallets. LG seems pretty confident that they can get plenty of suckers in at that price. If their sales fall off a cliff they will have to react.

It's possible that these prices will be more quickly discounted than last year... it's also possible that they have a ton of 2018 inventory they need to move out and that by pricing these where they have they are hoping to clear that out before May.
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LG has a lot of nerve STILL asking a premium price for these panels when the non OLED TV makers models are getting dangerously close in quality at far better prices.
That is the wrong take-away. The correct takeaway is that LG is still not serious about gaining market share in the 75/77" Premium TV segment this year.

If they are able to sell all of the 55" and 65" WOLED TVs they can produce, who's to blame them?

Every 77" WOLED panel they produce sacrifices 3 55" panels, so untilthey ate producing more 55" panels than they can sell, the 77" market will not be a priority.

DSCC forecasts that LG sold 26,000 77" WOLED panels last year and will sell 32,000 this year. This pricing would be consistent with those paltry production levels (<1% of total WOLED panels produced).

Based on what LG apparently said at CES, I was hopeful 2019 would be 'the year of 77" OLED TV.

At these prices (and forecasted production levels), it looks like it's going to take at least another year.

No one thinks LG has 'nerve' for what they are charging for the Wallpaper Series, and when the R65 is priced, no one will think LG has nerve either despite its astronomical price. When something is only available in very limited quantities, we are nderstanding that that translates to high prices (supply and demand).

The same is true of 77" OLED TVs in general - they will continue to be a high-priced precious commodity until LGD has the capacity in place to produce many more than they can today...
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That's the great thing about capitalism. We get to vote with our wallets. LG seems pretty confident that they can get plenty of suckers in at that price. If their sales fall off a cliff they will have to react.

It's possible that these prices will be more quickly discounted than last year... it's also possible that they have a ton of 2018 inventory they need to move out and that by pricing these where they have they are hoping to clear that out before May.
Well, in 2018 they sold under 26,000 77C8s with a launch MSRP of $9000.

This year they are aiming to sell under 32,000 77C9s with a launch MSRP of $7000.

Production increase of 23% at MSRP which is 22% lower...

Don't think these paltry sales volumes of less than 1% of WOLED panel production will be falling of a cliff (or at all).
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My guess is some 77C9 will retail for $1k less and by black friday will be close to $5k.
We'll see where the prices go here in Canada as the year progresses. I'll make the final decision at the point in time when my savings account reaches the price of the 65C9. At that time I'll see when the price difference between the 77C9 and 65C9 is and either wait or pull the trigger.

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I have the 77C8 and those 12” made a huge difference in movie watching in my HT. Don't know what your needs are but if you aren't a big gamer or need the new HDMI changes, maybe look for the coming discounts on the C8.
I'm a gamer so it's going to be the C9. But I sooooo want the 77".
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LG's target audience for the 77"

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Getting ready to purchase a TV for a basement finish. I was hoping 77C9 would be a bit cheaper after hearing their comments at CES. So that brings me to the next question.

2019 75" Q90R vs. 2018 77C8?
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Well, in 2018 they sold under 26,000 77C8s with a launch MSRP of $9000.

This year they are aiming to sell under 32,000 77C9s with a launch MSRP of $7000.

Production increase of 23% at MSRP which is 22% lower...

Don't think these paltry sales volumes of less than 1% of WOLED panel production will be falling of a cliff (or at all).
I'm not arguing with your logic, my snark is around LGs comments that 2019 was going to be the year for larger OLED screen sizes. Those volumes mean less than .01% of TV purchases in the US will probably be 77 OLEDs and that's combining all manufacturers.

How many 75Q90 will Samsung sell at MSRP $4999? I bet more.

When someone goes into buy a 75 inch set and decides they want something higher end than a Vizio, TCL or lower end Sony they are going to be looking at the $7,000 LG and comparing it to the $5,000 Samsung. If the Samsung is even CLOSE in picture performance they are going to sell more sets, even with LG having full HDMI 2.1 support.

Just my guess anyways. Yes, I'm bitter. For me the price difference is not $2,000 between these two sets it's $3,000 since I get a healthy discount on the Samsung.

If the Samsung is not a dog and Samsung delivers a handful of HDMI 2.1 features via a firmware update I'm probably going to go with that, which disappoints me, I would have preferred the OLED display.
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Getting ready to purchase a TV for a basement finish. I was hoping 77C9 would be a bit cheaper after hearing their comments at CES. So that brings me to the next question.

2019 75" Q90R vs. 2018 77C8?
First, a 77C8 one year ago wpuld have cost you $9000, versus $7000 for the 77C9 this year, so the entry-level 77" WOKEDs are getting less expensive, just not quickly enough to catch up to Damsung's flagship 75" QD-LED/LCD offering (at least by this year).

Second, we'll need to wait another month for the C9s yo release and for ome head-to-head comparisons between the 77C9 amd the 75Q90 to bevwritten-ip, before we know how much the 75Q90 has closed the gap with OLED.

But 30% cheaper is certainly a signifigant factor likely to tip the Premium Performance/Price crown in Samsung's direction this year...
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When someone goes into buy a 75 inch set and decides they want something higher end than a Vizio, TCL or lower end Sony they are going to be looking at the $7,000 LG and comparing it to the $5,000 Samsung. If the Samsung is even CLOSE in picture performance they are going to sell more sets, even with LG having full HDMI 2.1 support.

Just my guess anyways. Yes, I'm bitter. For me the price difference is not $2,000 between these two sets it's $3,000 since I get a healthy discount on the Samsung.

If the Samsung is not a dog and Samsung delivers a handful of HDMI 2.1 features via a firmware update I'm probably going to go with that, which disappoints me, I would have preferred the OLED display.

Others might go that route... but anyone with any OLED experience probably wouldn't. I sure wouldn't. Saving $2k isn't worth the almost OLED blacks and almost OLED viewing angles in return. Bottom line. For sure though... the people that only care about price (such as my brother who always buys basic economy flight seats) and has a $399 TCL 55" will definitely get the Samsung.

Hopefully next year the price will come down even more on the 77" and I'll feel really good about upgrading from my 65" B7.

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LOL!!! Good ol' Randy to say how we all feel.

LG just got pushed to the back of the calendar year when the discounts are more prominent at that price point. Pretty bad form if you ask me, but this will just give more time for reviews to come out and let more early adopters put their thoughts out. Samsung is making a big stride to get the business. Perhaps LG is content getting their business in supplying panels?
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Which models have 3D?

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I'm not arguing with your logic, my snark is around LGs comments that 2019 was going to be the year for larger OLED screen sizes. Those volumes mean less than .01% of TV purchases in the US will probably be 77 OLEDs and that's combining all manufacturers.
My snark too - I bought the comment hook, line, and sinker and believed it would be meaningful, like a 10X increase in production levels.

On the other hand, to LG's credit, entry-level 77" WOLED launch MSRPs are dropping by over 20%, while similar launch MSRPs at 55" and 65" are staying flat. And since you can purchase a 2018 77C9 for $4500 today (half of launch MSRP) from a mainstream retailer, that lower MSRP could translate to discounted pricing of $3500 on the 77C9 one year from now...

So there is a credible view that in LG's eyes, this is the 'year of 77" OLED TV' (but the 10X production increase I'd been hoping for is not going to happen).

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How many 75Q90 will Samsung sell at MSRP $4999? I bet more.
Samsung has almost 50% market share in the '75"-and-above' segment: https://news.samsung.com/global/next...reen-tv-market

"The share is even higher for 75-inch and larger TVs, reaching up to 47.4% share based on number of units sold. This means that one out of every two extra-large TVs sold worldwide is a Samsung TV."

When someone goes into buy a 75 inch set and decides they want something higher end than a Vizio, TCL or lower end Sony they are going to be looking at the $7,000 LG and comparing it to the $5,000 Samsung. If the Samsung is even CLOSE in picture performance they are going to sell more sets, even with LG having full HDMI 2.1 support.
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Absolutely. I would guess that Samsung will sell over 10-times the number of 75" LED/LCDs compared to total 77" OLED TV sales this year (as was certainly the case last year). But these are not all goin to be 75Q90s - most will be 75Q60s (or 75Q70s, whatever Samsung's least-expensive 75" TV is).

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Just my guess anyways. Yes, I'm bitter. For me the price difference is not $2,000 between these two sets it's $3,000 since I get a healthy discount on the Samsung.

If the Samsung is not a dog and Samsung delivers a handful of HDMI 2.1 features via a firmware update I'm probably going to go with that, which disappoints me, I would have preferred the OLED display.
Or settle for a smaller screen. The 65C9 should be an outstanding TV and by 2021 when 75" WOLEDs cost less than 1/2 of what they do today, you can probably sell it for a large portion of what you'll pay for a 75C21...

LG has put much more priority on the 55" and 65" Premium TV segments than they have into the 75/77" Premium TV Segment. This no-doubt has something to do with the fact that once their new 10.5G manufactiring line is up and running in 2021, it will be able to produce 75" WOLED panels for less than 1/2 of what a 77" WOLED panels costs them today...
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Others might go that route... but anyone with any OLED experience probably wouldn't. I sure wouldn't. Saving $2k isn't worth the almost OLED blacks and almost OLED viewing angles in return. Bottom line. For sure though... the people that only care about price (such as my brother who always buys basic economy flight seats) and has a $399 TCL 55" will definitely get the Samsung.

Hopefully next year the price will come down even more on the 77" and I'll feel really good about upgrading from my 65" B7.

Idk man If I can get almost OLED blacks and almost OLED viewing angles and keep $2K in my pocket I'd be extremely satisfied.
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1980 called and wants 3D back... again.

3D is DEAD... again. Thank god.
I mean... it isn't like you had to use it if you got a TV that supported it. Thank god for removing features, I guess.
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1980 called and wants 3D back... again.

3D is DEAD... again. Thank god.
I used to say things like this until I saw 3D on an LG OLED 4K TV. I went from "vocal lifelong 3D hater" to "3D fan" in about 2 seconds flat. Every single complaint I had melted away. LG OLEDs are what it should have been all along.

My friends flipped too, after I demo'd it to them.
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