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3.60.19 arrived while I was traveling on biz this week. Airplay is OK. Didn't notice much else.

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I didn't have a lot of luck with the 5 GHz wifi but it seems pretty solid using 2.4 GHz and the signal is great.
Both GHz are weak for me, will have to look into boosters, thanks!

Can anyone tell me if break-in slides are necessary? I've been watching and playing a variety of content a few hours per day so probably been on for 20-25 hours so far. Should I speed things up by using slides? If so, does anyone have a link to the best ones to use? Thanks.

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Ken I have to disagree. As you know I see a lot of both panels and the Sony panels are usually cleaner. Not that the LG panels are bad but the Sony panels are more consistent. LG has made significant progress with their QC but every once in a while we get a set that boggles the mind on how it left the factory where we have never had that situation with Sony. You can't go wrong with either set. If you get a bad panel, just return it for another.
Not sure I agree, John. I’ve seen quite a few poor Sony panel pix over the last few years on these very AVS pages. If there was truly a difference, since they are all the same LG display panels going into LG and Sony OLEDs, it would mean that either Sony has a ‘special spec’ for their panels that LG Displays must meet, or Sony is shipping back to LG those displays that don’t meet ‘Sony specs’. We’ve never heard nor has it been proven that either is occurring.

We also have to be very cautious when saying there are fewer poorly QC’d Sony OLEDs since LG OLEDs are so much more prolific. Naturally we’d expect to see more dicey LG OLEDs since there are so many more of them. I just don’t think we have good science here to come up with a definitive conclusion.

In fact we heard this same kind of thing in the past with plasmas (only special select panels are used in the xyz ‘premium’ displays). That too was ‘theory’ and never proven. But it sure sounds good from a marketing standpoint.

Now if you told me that Sony was using proprietary circuitry to bring somewhat substandard displays up to passable QC levels, that might make sense to me. But I don’t recall something like that having been proven either.
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A silly question but have to ask - can it be set up as a Dumb TV i.e. no internet connection without getting error messages or notifications on the screen? For my application the Smart features are not necessary. It may get hooked up to OTA antenna.
Yes. I don't keep mine connected to the Internet, and only connect for a firmware update.
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Hey all,

Hope this is the right area to ask.

I have a quick question and hopefully someone has an answer or possible solution.

I just upgraded my LG 65OLEDC8 to the new 65OLEDC9 that supports ALLM & VRR. My issue is with my Xbox one x the options in the settings to activate each feature are greyed out.

The weird thing is when I play HDR games, the ALLM feature works. As soon as the game starts to launch, the regula preset I use switches to HDR game mode. This is great but...

The other weird thing and issue is ALLM doesn't work with any SDR game. It doesn't switch & stays on my normal tv preset.

Any one have any info on this. I'm striking out searching the web.

Thanks in advance

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**Forgot to mention I'm running all my equipment through a pioneer AVR (sc-lx502). This might be an issue.
Yup, Pioneer Elite SC-LX502 is a 2017 receiver that does not seem to be updated to support ALLM! You need to connect ALLM compatible devices directly to the TV.
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Yup, Pioneer Elite SC-LX502 is a 2017 receiver that does not seem to be updated to support ALLM! You need to connect ALLM compatible devices directly to the TV.
Thank you

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Hey all,

Hope this is the right area to ask.

I have a quick question and hopefully someone has an answer or possible solution.

I just upgraded my LG 65OLEDC8 to the new 65OLEDC9 that supports ALLM & VRR. My issue is with my Xbox one x the options in the settings to activate each feature are greyed out.

The weird thing is when I play HDR games, the ALLM feature works. As soon as the game starts to launch, the regula preset I use switches to HDR game mode. This is great but...

The other weird thing and issue is ALLM doesn't work with any SDR game. It doesn't switch & stays on my normal tv preset.

Any one have any info on this. I'm striking out searching the web.

Thanks in advance

**Forgot to mention I'm running all my equipment through a pioneer AVR (sc-lx502). This might be an issue.

TV - LG C8 & LG C6, AVR - Pioneer SC-LX502, Xbox One X, PS4 Pro & Switch
My understanding is it switches to game mode setting once you start a game. If you are just browsing dashboard or using apps on Xbox One it will stay in whatever preset you had on.
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My understanding is it switches to game mode setting once you start a game. If you are just browsing dashboard or using apps on Xbox One it will stay in whatever preset you had on.
Yea but it's not switching when a game starts. My AVR is the issue. Gonna run the Xbox direct

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Yea but it's not switching when a game starts. My AVR is the issue. Gonna run the Xbox direct

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Sadly you'll lose uncompressed 7.1 PCM this way and will be limited to lossy and possibly laggy Dolby Digital or DTS Bitstream
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Through the WebOS Youtube APP, I always have a little bit of audio lag.
And no matter how much I tinker with the audio-lag settings in the tv, audio is never perfectly in-sync. Same if audio is outputed to the soundbar. Audio-sync options in the bar don't solve this either.
Another reason why i'm better off using the PC+Chrome on my C9.

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Goodbye 55” LG C9
Main issues with LG C9 are BFI flicker like WTF
LG C9 amazing TV, but too many deal breakers, Unless all you do is watch Movies and TV shows it’s fine.
In the 55" class there are not many high end LED's so what are you moving into?
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Through the WebOS Youtube APP, I always have a little bit of audio lag.

And no matter how much I tinker with the audio-lag settings in the tv, audio is never perfectly in-sync. Same if audio is outputed to the soundbar. Audio-sync options in the bar don't solve this either.

Another reason why i'm better off using the PC+Chrome on my C9.
Pc and chrome (or other pc apps) don't have any lag?
I'm a little annoyed with the tv's audio lag..

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Goodbye 55” LG C9

Main issues with LG C9 are BFI flicker like WTF ?



120Hz at 1440p never worked properly

I am almost positive newer displays C10 or C11 will get FreeSync 2 certified to work flawlessly with new gaming consoles.

C9 HDMI 2.1 features are never going to fully materialize another LG failed promise they will deliver eArc and VRR at 1440p like Samsung does but not full [email protected] 120Hz with VRR.



LG C9 amazing TV, but too many deal breakers, Unless all you do is watch Movies and TV shows it’s fine.


You have a crystal ball? LG is pretty good with updates and engineering so we shall see. There’s a long road ahead for HDMI 2.1 to come into fruition. Good luck with your quest.


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In the 55" class there are not many high end LED's so what are you moving into?
My original plan always was a 55” Hisense H9F as a cheap 2 year gap TV until the C11 and 30,000 hour phosphors and 300+ nits OLEDs On LGs RoadMap we’re out in 2021 but since the H9F was months delayed I jumped on a 55” C9 thinking it was ready for prime time. Mainly my doubts about full complete HDMI 2.1 compliance sealed its fate.

The H9F is also punching way above its weight class. The reviewer is a bit odd but that’s his style.




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i know this is off topic but what are people using to elevate their OLED's a few inches. i have mine on a stand and my soundbar blocks about 1 inch of the screen.

Ugh been looking on amazon and the lowest they have is 5 inches tall. I'm looking for about 2 inches, 3 max.
I had to do that with my older EF6500 and I couldn't figure out what to use. I ended up using an old Toshiba HD DVD player and put the TV on top of it.

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i know this is off topic but what are people using to elevate their OLED's a few inches. i have mine on a stand and my soundbar blocks about 1 inch of the screen.

Ugh been looking on amazon and the lowest they have is 5 inches tall. I'm looking for about 2 inches, 3 max.

Before returning my C9 55” I used a milk crate draped with black velvet fabric looks sick. If you like the TV pretty high up makes a huge improvement.


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i know this is off topic but what are people using to elevate their OLED's a few inches. i have mine on a stand and my soundbar blocks about 1 inch of the screen.

Ugh been looking on amazon and the lowest they have is 5 inches tall. I'm looking for about 2 inches, 3 max.
Maybe go to the hardware store, get some flat boards and stack em to your height required. You can paint or wrap them in what ever color or fabric you want.
Or
Try a search for "TV Risers" on Google or Amazon if you want more official look.
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After a month, or so with the 65C9, I'm softening my position on it. I still miss my Kuro, but I am getting over it. I'm learning to live with OLED motion, because the picture is so damn great. I hope future FW can add improvements, too. Not holding my breath for that, though!

With almost 200 hours, it's getting close to calibration time. While not required, I am putting a few hours/day to running the break in slides (old habits are hard to break). I really want to age up to around 400 hours by end of month.

I am re-reading this thread from post #1 . I'm up the page 60-something now. What an interesting journey it has been for some of you. Looks like the noise has settled out.

One thing that bothers me about this thread... and I genuinely mean NO DISRESPECT... is that there is way too much gaming discussion in here. IMHO, there should be a gaming only thread. It's a PITA to wade though all the complaining and the discussions about gaming. I know gaming is fashionable these days, but I cannot remember anywhere near as much discussion in the Kuro threads about it.

I'd much prefer discussing the merits, shortcomings and use of the panel for it's primary intended use case -- TV, Film and 4K.
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Got my c9 today, super heavy. In 5 mins cnn was average as always. Ps3 game I had on pause, god of war 2 (ps2 remaster) had a little bit of difference but I couldn’t say in what exactly, colors a tad better, pixel refresh was faster which helped a tad, brights popped a tad, great lag time as other TVs felt good.

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Anyone find the ISF picture modes a little too red/yellow? On my C7 I used the Technicolor picture mode for SDR. Why isn’t it being recommended this year? Is ISF really more accurate?
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After a month, or so with the 65C9, I'm softening my position on it. I still miss my Kuro, but I am getting over it. I'm learning to live with OLED motion, because the picture is so damn great. I hope future FW can add improvements, too. Not holding my breath for that, though!

With almost 200 hours, it's getting close to calibration time. While not required, I am putting a few hours/day to running the break in slides (old habits are hard to break). I really want to age up to around 400 hours by end of month.

I am re-reading this thread from post #1 . I'm up the page 60-something now. What an interesting journey it has been for some of you. Looks like the noise has settled out.

One thing that bothers me about this thread... and I genuinely mean NO DISRESPECT... is that there is way too much gaming discussion in here. IMHO, there should be a gaming only thread. It's a PITA to wade though all the complaining and the discussions about gaming. I know gaming is fashionable these days, but I cannot remember anywhere near as much discussion in the Kuro threads about it.

I'd much prefer discussing the merits, shortcomings and use of the panel for it's primary intended use case -- TV, Film and 4K.
You want to know a reason for all the discussion on video games? It's because they are more immersive than ever before and this: https://lpesports.com/e-sports-news/...than-hollywood

and this has interesting stats:
https://www.quora.com/Is-the-Video-G...sic-Industries

There is going to be a lot of gaming talk here because this set was the first to get HDMI 2.1. A lot of gamers wanted that, plus this OLED is usually on the top gaming TV set lists out there. They are using this thread to naturally discuss this TV and the best settings for gaming (and TV/Films for those same folks).

Creating a separate thread (we already have 3 different threads on subjects about this C9), will just make more to keep up with. We are all interested in the same things. Configuring the C9 the best way we can and discussing features and how to use them. Creating a separate thread could make people with subject matter expertise on this TV only stay in this thread, and you may not get as good help in a dedicated gaming thread. Then that creates duplicate/cross posting.

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^ All good. I get it. As I said, I really do not mean any disrespect. ^

For us non-gamers, it just means wading through a lot of conversations that we don't care about. Once I catch up in the thread, it will be easier to pass them by.
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^ All good. I get it. As I said, I really do not mean any disrespect. ^

For us non-gamers, it just means wading through a lot of conversations that we don't care about. Once I catch up in the thread, it will be easier to pass them by.
I knew you didn't mean anything. I was just posting some helpful stats and reasons why it may be that way and reasons a separate thread may not work. Its interesting for myself to see the numbers as well.
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After a month, or so with the 65C9, I'm softening my position on it. I still miss my Kuro, but I am getting over it. I'm learning to live with OLED motion, because the picture is so damn great. I hope future FW can add improvements, too. Not holding my breath for that, though!

With almost 200 hours, it's getting close to calibration time. While not required, I am putting a few hours/day to running the break in slides (old habits are hard to break). I really want to age up to around 400 hours by end of month.

I am re-reading this thread from post #1 . I'm up the page 60-something now. What an interesting journey it has been for some of you. Looks like the noise has settled out.

One thing that bothers me about this thread... and I genuinely mean NO DISRESPECT... is that there is way too much gaming discussion in here. IMHO, there should be a gaming only thread. It's a PITA to wade though all the complaining and the discussions about gaming. I know gaming is fashionable these days, but I cannot remember anywhere near as much discussion in the Kuro threads about it.

I'd much prefer discussing the merits, shortcomings and use of the panel for it's primary intended use case -- TV, Film and 4K.

I never understood why threads didn't have flags of some sort that you could denote messages that referenced a subset of what the therm is about. So you coming to the C9 owners only thread but then you could check a filter drop down and select picture quality or HDMI or eARC and so on and so forth.
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After doing some viewing this evening, I seem to think that the audio sync may have improved with 3.60.19. I did change from OPT to ARC last week (well before the FW update) and there was improvement then, too. But, it seems even better post .19 FW.

Has anyone with the new FW noticed any change in audio sync -- better/worse?

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Just picked up my new C9 yesterday afternoon! I am wondering is there a external hard drive size limitation present? Will a 8-10TB external hard drive be read?
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Got my c9 today, super heavy. In 5 mins cnn was average as always. Ps3 game I had on pause, god of war 2 (ps2 remaster) had a little bit of difference but I couldn’t say in what exactly, colors a tad better, pixel refresh was faster which helped a tad, brights popped a tad, great lag time as other TVs felt good.

My kids tcl is 75% lighter. One screw didn’t want to fit in the stand, just left it out.
Good point I’ve never felt lifted such a heavy TV my LG C9 55” was almost a 2 man job since there’s no where to hold and it’s insanely heavy. A 65” is a 2 person job.
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