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Any great HDR/Dolby Vision movies or shows to try and enjoy this tv instead of spending my time writing about it in forums?

My recommendation: Bladerunner 2049 - make sure to watch in HDR. Netflix only has it in 4k, at least in my region.

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Interstellar looks really awesome.
Native 4K, No DV but of course HDR 10.

From what I have heard Godzilla II is also really good.
It is not available in Germany just yet. So I am not able to watch it on my C9.
But in some other countries it is available.

Planet Earth II probably is another example. In terms of quality it probably is one of the best UHD BRs out there.
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My bad, I meant back, of course I saw the front screen protector. But yes, thanks to the pics in this thread I found the plastic on the back, would have never seen it.

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Ah, thanks. I could do the 65" B9. I admit I'm not a hardcore enthusiast like most of you guys, so prob wouldn't notice differences from the C9. But just out of curiosity, what are they?
It has been a while since I was comparing the two, but from what I remember, the main difference is the processor. So the motion processing may not be quite as good (just at a guess I'd say the B9 is likely on par with the C8 for processing? Not sure if anyone has done any serious side-by-side comparisons). Not sure if there was anything else. Maybe the speakers are a few watts less?

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You might also consider a 65" B9. The differences between the C9 and the B9 would probably be pretty minor to you.
Ya know whats interesting, dealer cost is about the same on the B9 and C9
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Ya know whats interesting, dealer cost is about the same on the B9 and C9
Not too surprising considering that the B9 came out like 6 months after the C9. That seemed like an odd decision from the beginning to me. I understand that should help boost early C9 sales, but why even bother releasing the B9 at all?

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Finally got around to trying some 30 FPS gaming on the C9. I was avoiding it because I was scared of how blurry it would look. My friend has a B6 and when he got it we tried some games, it was really distracting. I wrote of OLED 3 years ago because of it.


I don't know what changed but it was surprisingly amazing! As a plasma owner I had no problems with it. 30 fps by nature is juddery but for what it is I am really impressed. 60 FPS games look insane that goes without saying but its funny that I wrote the tech off and it was a non issue.
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Finally got around to trying some 30 FPS gaming on the C9. I was avoiding it because I was scared of how blurry it would look. My friend has a B6 and when he got it we tried some games, it was really distracting. I wrote of OLED 3 years ago because of it.


I don't know what changed but it was surprisingly amazing! As a plasma owner I had no problems with it. 30 fps by nature is juddery but for what it is I am really impressed. 60 FPS games look insane that goes without saying but its funny that I wrote the tech off and it was a non issue.
Did you have BFI on? I hear it helps low fps games.

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Finally got around to trying some 30 FPS gaming on the C9. I was avoiding it because I was scared of how blurry it would look. My friend has a B6 and when he got it we tried some games, it was really distracting. I wrote of OLED 3 years ago because of it.
Probably because the B6 refreshes at 60Hz vs. 120Hz on newer OLEDs.

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Interstellar looks really awesome.
Native 4K, No DV but of course HDR 10.

From what I have heard Godzilla II is also really good.
It is not available in Germany just yet. So I am not able to watch it on my C9.
But in some other countries it is available.

Planet Earth II probably is another example. In terms of quality it probably is one of the best UHD BRs out there.
Aquaman, Ready player one, Mission Impossible Fallout, Shutter Island.. i like that disk alot . For Dolby Vision.
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Interstellar looks really awesome.

Native 4K, No DV but of course HDR 10.



From what I have heard Godzilla II is also really good.

It is not available in Germany just yet. So I am not able to watch it on my C9.

But in some other countries it is available.



Planet Earth II probably is another example. In terms of quality it probably is one of the best UHD BRs out there.
Immortal Engines is an awesome UHD bluray to test the C9.
I think the movie itself sucks, but it looks stunning, super sharp. It was shot in 8k and mastered in 8k/4k.
It has Dolby Vision with full enhancement layer.

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The general idea would be to sit far enough so you don't see pixels, and near enough to get the home cinema vibe without getting dizzy.

Try the rtings calculator.
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews/by...e-relationship

On 4k content, you can't see pixels even from a foot away. So basically you sit as near as you can handle it! :-)


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It has been a while since I was comparing the two, but from what I remember, the main difference is the processor. So the motion processing may not be quite as good (just at a guess I'd say the B9 is likely on par with the C8 for processing? Not sure if anyone has done any serious side-by-side comparisons). Not sure if there was anything else. Maybe the speakers are a few watts less?
Thanks for info, guys. Added to my notes.
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Thanks for info, guys. Added to my notes.
I just took a look at the LG website and the 2 main differences between the B9 & C9 are the processor and the stand. The C9 comes with a new heavier metal stand. The B9 has a lighter plastic stand like last year's models.

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Not too surprising considering that the B9 came out like 6 months after the C9. That seemed like an odd decision from the beginning to me. I understand that should help boost early C9 sales, but why even bother releasing the B9 at all?
I asked myself that last year
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Hello! As one can read here: www .rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c9-oled
"C9 uses 4 sub-pixels, but all 4 are never used at the same time"
Does it also mean that every pixel of 3840×2160 has one white subpixel? Ed est, are white pixels quantity 8294400?
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Did you have BFI on? I hear it helps low fps games.

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Probably because the B6 refreshes at 60Hz vs. 120Hz on newer OLEDs.

Ah I didn't know that. Cool.


Btw games in 4k stand out more than movies in 4k relative to their 1080p modes imo. Maybe its due to the size increase going from 50 to 65". When you watch a lot of movies on a 50" tv you need 4k just to maintain the PPI value.
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I'm confused because this reviewer and also rtings.com recommends "Expert Dark Room" for SDR Picture mode but on the Spears & Munsil thread they recommend "Cinema" for all sources (SDR, HDR10 and Dolby Vision)?

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Hello! As one can read here: www .rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c9-oled
"C9 uses 4 sub-pixels, but all 4 are never used at the same time"
Does it also mean that every pixel of 3840×2160 has one white subpixel? Ed est, are white pixels quantity 8294400?
Yes. There's a picture of the pixel structure on that page showing the white, red and blue pixels lit. And if you click on the alternative pixel photo link below it you can see the green one.
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I'm confused because this reviewer and also rtings.com recommends "Expert Dark Room" for SDR Picture mode but on the Spears & Munsil thread they recommend "Cinema" for all sources (SDR, HDR10 and Dolby Vision)?
I only use Cinema for Dolby vision

If you look at Darko's calibration video, he shows you on the calibration graph that isf dark is almost exact to the scale


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Any great HDR/Dolby Vision movies or shows to try and enjoy this tv instead of spending my time writing about it in forums?

My recommendation: Bladerunner 2049 - make sure to watch in HDR. Netflix only has it in 4k, at least in my region.

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Pacific Rim, John Wick, Star Trek (new films via AppleTV) Aqua Man
On Netflix, Altered Carbon, will melt your eyes.


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Dolby Vision Eye candy.
Pacific Rim, John Wick, Star Trek (new films via AppleTV) Aqua Man
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Watched John Wick 2 last night. Just not as same on the 55” as watching movies on the 65”. Really wish I could of gotten a decent one. I moved my couch right up to the Tv to compensate


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Hello! As one can read here: www .rtings.com/tv/reviews/lg/c9-oled
"C9 uses 4 sub-pixels, but all 4 are never used at the same time"
Does it also mean that every pixel of 3840×2160 has one white subpixel? Ed est, are white pixels quantity 8294400?
Hi, WRGB OLED's have 4 sub-pixels, due to panel design, the additional W sub-pixel (unfiltered transmitting white light) while the the RGB sub-pixels are filtered.

After the whole video processing, the final video data 3x 10-bit (RGB) goes to a controller where its converting them to 4x 10-bit (WRGB) to drive the panel, but during that calculation one sub-pixel will be off, so all the times 3-subpixels light up. (one is always off).

This is happening to all LG OLED or all brands which are using panels from LG, from 2015 till now.

That type of displays with 4 primary colors called non-additive.

Normal/typical displays are RGB, so addictive, to generate White, the 3 sub-pixels (R,G,B) will light up.
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Pacific Rim
Is this streaming only for DV?
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Yes. One of the very best Dolby Vision titles.
I heard it was the best. But I don’t have access to a streaming service that has it.

Sucks that the disc version doesn’t have it as you’d gain HD audio as well.
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I heard it was the best. But I don’t have access to a streaming service that has it.



Sucks that the disc version doesn’t have it as you’d gain HD audio as well.


Apple 4K TV is worth it. Access to over 200 Dolby Vision titles. It’s a rumor that Apple will announce a hardware update on the 10th.


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Pacific Rim is DV on Apple TV 4K? Sweet. Would have grabbed one for Plex a while ago but no bitstream passthrough. Will have to pick one up just for the DV library.
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Now everything is working correct just wanted to see if a solution was still being looked for or if I'm just late to the party.

I've read 30 pages of this forum so far but I still haven't found where someone solved this without resorting to multiple hdmi outputs or optical etc.

Can anyone confirm if this has been resolved previously??

I'd found a workaround a few days before your post, mentioned here. Full quote in the spoiler tag:


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You didn't mention exactly what steps you took to fix your issue, only that you added a custom resolution of [email protected] Was that through Nvidia Control Panel? Because I had to resort to CRU, since NVCP wouldn't allow me to create that specific resolution without first overriding the AVR's EDID.
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but during that calculation one sub-pixel will be off,
Really? I do not think so. I mean the calculation are just done in the background, aren't they?

So, if we have just 255,255,255 (White) with 1000 nit, 500 nit, etc., does it mean that ONLY white Subpixel will be used, though with different luminance?
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