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Boy one of the first ones made, any issue with that set?

Actually it has functioned perfectly. We love it.

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Hey fellas,

Do you think the 77 c9 is a good fit for me?

My basement is a 1400 sqft open room. 15' behind time he couch is a patio french door and some windows that face the tv (30+ feet away) No direct sunlight will come close at all to hitting the tv due to the north west facing glass. But i am concerned about reflections.

50/50 mix of movies/ sports (basketball and football). Most movies will be night time viewing but some sports mixed in in the day time. We will use the space a gathering spot for parties/ watching a game with lights on, etc.



I hadn't recently considered the C9 77 to be honest. But seeing the blacks and contrast in person wowed me. I really wanted an 85" to begin but has settled on 82 to get a better display. The samsung q80/90 in 82" is the other contender here. But its lack of dts/ atmos passthrough and DV concern me. I have a dennon x3500 with klipsch RP Atmos enabled front speakers for a 5.1.2 setup.


Would the advice from c9 owners be the better looking 77 vs bigger but still great looking 82? Anything else to consider?

The size difference between 77 and 82 really is quite noticeable and my space is huge.

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This does not seem to be the case. Playback over Airplay 2 stops after a minute or two if the data connections are shut down on the iOS device. Also if playback is from a macOS device, playback stops immediately if the device goes to sleep.
What you are describing is not an indicator of which device loads the video/audio data.

I never said you can turn off the controlling device. The playback device and the controlling device still exchange some data in certain intervals like the the playback info. If you interrupt the connection between the controlling and the playback device then the playback will eventually stop. The same applies when the controlling device is turned off, in this case the controlling device is actively stopping the playback - that's what you were seeing when you've put your macOS device to sleep.

For the last time since I'm really getting sick of explaining this over and over again and getting responses like "I don't believe you": if you're playing iTunes or ATV+ content (from Apple, not some home made videos or rips etc.) via AirPlay 2 then your LG TV will directly play the video from Apples CDN servers. And if you don't believe me then check it yourself with known methods how to analyze network traffic.

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No. Renaming the input does nothing. It’s the icon that must be PC for PC Mode.

PC mode doesn’t force it to 4:4:4. PC Mode stops it from down converting from RGB or 4:4:4 to 4:2:2.
Thanks. I just got my C9 24 hours ago or so. How do you change the Icon to PC then? I knew I might have been off..but I did not know changing it to PC would do 4:4:4 it was my method that was wrong.

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Thanks. I just got my C9 24 hours ago or so. How do you change the Icon to PC then? I knew I might have been off..but I did not know changing it to PC would do 4:4:4 it was my method that was wrong.
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So i am getting ready to update my 65b7a to a 77" and was going to look for the c9 in closeout coming the next few months.... Not really sure exactly what the BFI @120 will do in the upcoming CX, but will it be worth the extra $ to wait for the CX to be released or jump on the c9 when the price is right?

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Hey fellas,



Do you think the 77 c9 is a good fit for me?



My basement is a 1400 sqft open room. 15' behind time he couch is a patio french door and some windows that face the tv (30+ feet away) No direct sunlight will come close at all to hitting the tv due to the north west facing glass. But i am concerned about reflections.



50/50 mix of movies/ sports (basketball and football). Most movies will be night time viewing but some sports mixed in in the day time. We will use the space a gathering spot for parties/ watching a game with lights on, etc.







I hadn't recently considered the C9 77 to be honest. But seeing the blacks and contrast in person wowed me. I really wanted an 85" to begin but has settled on 82 to get a better display. The samsung q80/90 in 82" is the other contender here. But its lack of dts/ atmos passthrough and DV concern me. I have a dennon x3500 with klipsch RP Atmos enabled front speakers for a 5.1.2 setup.





Would the advice from c9 owners be the better looking 77 vs bigger but still great looking 82? Anything else to consider?



The size difference between 77 and 82 really is quite noticeable and my space is huge.
Nothing you describe would make the C9 not a good option.

If you want to own one of the best TVs available I say go for it.

Just double check the EARC thread. IIRC there are compatibility issues with the 3500 series from D&M which is their fault.
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Just double check the EARC thread. IIRC there are compatibility issues with the 3500 series from D&M which is their fault.
Nothing wrong with eARC between the C9 and the X3500. It’s the X3400 (and other 2017s) that have issues.
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Hey fellas,

Do you think the 77 c9 is a good fit for me?

My basement is a 1400 sqft open room. 15' behind time he couch is a patio french door and some windows that face the tv (30+ feet away) No direct sunlight will come close at all to hitting the tv due to the north west facing glass. But i am concerned about reflections.

50/50 mix of movies/ sports (basketball and football). Most movies will be night time viewing but some sports mixed in in the day time. We will use the space a gathering spot for parties/ watching a game with lights on, etc.



I hadn't recently considered the C9 77 to be honest. But seeing the blacks and contrast in person wowed me. I really wanted an 85" to begin but has settled on 82 to get a better display. The samsung q80/90 in 82" is the other contender here. But its lack of dts/ atmos passthrough and DV concern me. I have a dennon x3500 with klipsch RP Atmos enabled front speakers for a 5.1.2 setup.


Would the advice from c9 owners be the better looking 77 vs bigger but still great looking 82? Anything else to consider?

The size difference between 77 and 82 really is quite noticeable and my space is huge.
I’m in a shockingly similar situation to you and have been having a hard time deciding. C9 is a phenomenal tv but reflections maybe the one problem for you. In a big space a big tv has a ton of merit on size alone. Ideally a 82-85” would fit your situation the best. The new 85” Samsung Q 9500 looks very promising if you can wait a few more months. If they made a somewhat affordable 85” OLED I would have already bought one but size has been my big holdup there.
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Mounting for lg 65 c9 on bello table.

Mounting for lg 65 c9 on bello table.
I have one a 2013 tv table with the center post mount that I would like to use
and not buy another 500 dollar table.
The current tv is flat in the back and the hinge t bar is near the top of the set.
This hinge is fixed in place and does not move up or down. ( at least without tapping
screws for it at a lower height)
Since the Lg has a lower hump for mounting it would be way to high .
The vertical mount bars would probably work but there would be a lot of
space behind the set from the top of the electronics bulge to the hang points.

None of the DIY's seem to show you what to do for this its either stand mount
or wall mount.
Anybody have a solution for this.
Since I live in Earthquake country I want my TV's tied down as much as possible.
Also want to have some height adjustment. ( At least to get it to the right height)

Can anybody point out a thread that solves this ?
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I’m in a shockingly similar situation to you and have been having a hard time deciding. C9 is a phenomenal tv but reflections maybe the one problem for you. In a big space a big tv has a ton of merit on size alone. Ideally a 82-85” would fit your situation the best. The new 85” Samsung Q 9500 looks very promising if you can wait a few more months. If they made a somewhat affordable 85” OLED I would have already bought one but size has been my big holdup there.
I agree, i was shocked by how small a 77 looks with an 82 sitting beside it...

Im not finding anything on the q9500 with google... where did you read about it?
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I’️m in a shockingly similar situation to you and have been having a hard time deciding. C9 is a phenomenal tv but reflections maybe the one problem for you. In a big space a big tv has a ton of merit on size alone. Ideally a 82-85” would fit your situation the best. The new 85” Samsung Q 9500 looks very promising if you can wait a few more months. If they made a somewhat affordable 85” OLED I would have already bought one but size has been my big holdup there.
I agree, i was shocked by how small a 77 looks with an 82 sitting beside it...

Im not finding anything on the q9500 with google... where did you read about it?
My bad I added an extra 0 by accident. I believe it’s actually the Q 950 T, it has nearly zero bezel and looks to be the real deal. They are making it in a 85” size as well.
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Actually it has functioned perfectly. We love it.
Sweet, that's what we like to here. How old is that set now?

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Hey fellas,

Do you think the 77 c9 is a good fit for me?

My basement is a 1400 sqft open room. 15' behind time he couch is a patio french door and some windows that face the tv (30+ feet away) No direct sunlight will come close at all to hitting the tv due to the north west facing glass.
That a a big room, can you light control it? JVC RS540U would be very close to the price of a TV, then you can pick you size, maybe 120"

Otherwise I would get a 85" 900F or 950G. You need all the size you can get. Going from 82 to 85 is a 7% difference.
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Sweet, that's what we like to here. How old is that set now?

That a a big room, can you light control it? JVC RS540U would be very close to the price of a TV, then you can pick you size, maybe 120" [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]

Otherwise I would get a 85" 900F or 950G. You need all the size you can get. Going from 82 to 85 is a 7% difference.
I hear ya, but ive never seen a projector look even decent in a room with the lights on. And this is the multipurpose party space. I considered a theater room, but ultimately settled on open game room, tv area bar.

Funny you mention the 85 950G.... it was my early favorite... but the black bars and blooming totally kill it for me. So i moved on to the Q70 85, then read enough reviews to favor the q80/q90 in 82. Both look great in person, the 77c9 looks better but its so small...hah. I don't know if i can settle for the measly 77[IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/rolleyes.gif[/IMG]
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One quick question, for those who use the C9 with PC (in PC mode), should we use RGB Full or RGB Limited? With an NVIDIA graphics card.

Mines hooked up to my PC I always used Full on previous PC's also. I haven't read anything over the years indicating Limited would be better then Full.

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Wanted to confirm something. I know that for HDR/DV movie modes, the settings on the C9 we are supposed to max out OLED Light and Contrast Levels, then HDR uses what it needs from those levels. If I am playing an HDR game on Xbox One X, and the C9 is in the HDR Game mode, should those values also be maxed out and the game will do the same thing; use how ever much of the OLED Light and Contrast it needs? If they are supposed to be maxed in HDR Game mode, then I would need to adjust each games HDR video settings to be correct after that, right? Like adjust the 3 box logos, etc for HDR brightness in that game?
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Actually it has functioned perfectly. We love it.

I had the same tv..loved it..was great with 3D movies also
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Hi C9 owners, I am planning to add a TV to my bedroom for mostly nighttime watching. Was looking at the Sony 85x900F, Sony 85x950G and the LG 77C9. Of course, the LG wins out on contrast and PQ. But smaller and pricier.

However, what bothers me the most is how fragile it felt (and is) when I saw it at BB. I do plan on wall mounting it and my kids are teenagers (no young children in home, no pets). It will be about 40-45 inches off the floor (bottom of TV). It is SO THIN that I worry that I am going to crack it or something trying to mount it.

How worried should I be? I can't stop thinking about this TV ever since I saw it in its full glory at the local Best Buy. I feel like a hormone raged teenager who got a first glimpse of b**bs and can't stop thinking about it. This TV is miles ahead of anything else on the market.

Thanks!
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With talk of BFI making a come back in CX/10 what happens to C9's and the BFI they promised at launch that never made it?
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Hi C9 owners, I am planning to add a TV to my bedroom for mostly nighttime watching. Was looking at the Sony 85x900F, Sony 85x950G and the LG 77C9. Of course, the LG wins out on contrast and PQ. But smaller and pricier.



However, what bothers me the most is how fragile it felt (and is) when I saw it at BB. I do plan on wall mounting it and my kids are teenagers (no young children in home, no pets). It will be about 40-45 inches off the floor (bottom of TV). It is SO THIN that I worry that I am going to crack it or something trying to mount it.



How worried should I be? I can't stop thinking about this TV ever since I saw it in its full glory at the local Best Buy. I feel like a hormone raged teenager who got a first glimpse of b**bs and can't stop thinking about it. This TV is miles ahead of anything else on the market.



Thanks!


Mounting is fine. It’s not all that fragile and the mounting screws attach to the thicker part at the bottom of the tv


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Mines hooked up to my PC I always used Full on previous PC's also. I haven't read anything over the years indicating Limited would be better then Full.
Because all video content is in 4:2:0 Limited (even most HDR) (some satellites feeds are in 4:2:2 but even there Color range : Limited can be seen in mediainfo). Some titles in HDR are in Full. And thus -- if calibration is bad and different -- low can be even better. But when you are gaming or doing video or photo editing -- then it is important, because they use 4:4:4 Full.
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Sweet, that's what we like to here. How old is that set now?

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Only 5 years. Purchased in early '15. It is a stellar set except when it is turned off and you get that wavy gravy effect on the glass. LOL...

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Hi C9 owners, I am planning to add a TV to my bedroom for mostly nighttime watching. Was looking at the Sony 85x900F, Sony 85x950G and the LG 77C9. Of course, the LG wins out on contrast and PQ. But smaller and pricier.

However, what bothers me the most is how fragile it felt (and is) when I saw it at BB. I do plan on wall mounting it and my kids are teenagers (no young children in home, no pets). It will be about 40-45 inches off the floor (bottom of TV). It is SO THIN that I worry that I am going to crack it or something trying to mount it. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/frown.gif[/IMG]

How worried should I be? I can't stop thinking about this TV ever since I saw it in its full glory at the local Best Buy. I feel like a hormone raged teenager who got a first glimpse of b**bs and can't stop thinking about it. [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/biggrin.gif[/IMG] This TV is miles ahead of anything else on the market.

Thanks!
If you do mostly nighttime watching, put in a JVC 4K projector instead. I have both the C9 and JVC N7. The N7 wins when it comes to immersion. No contest.
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One quick question, for those who use the C9 with PC (in PC mode), should we use RGB Full or RGB Limited? With an NVIDIA graphics card.

Mines hooked up to my PC I always used Full on previous PC's also. I haven't read anything over the years indicating Limited would be better then Full.
In my case RGB full has banding compared to RGB limited, or ycbcr 444, with ycbcr 8 bit being best, this is with PC input disabled, pc mode is overall worse but of course no 444 chroma without it.

Game mode also has somewhat worse banding than ISF/technicolour expert.



On another note guys should I trust my i1d3 pro with the woled correction in displaycal it says warm 2 is 6650k with 0.3dE, or should I trust my 2 PC monitor which one of them has a spectral correction file made with a spectraval 1511 with the other visually matched, in my opinion the monitors have a much more correct white/grey balance with zero tinting, and when I compare warm 1 on C9 is actually closer to my reference display even if it's too blueish.
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Some more questions....

I have a Denon x6400h receiver that has E-Arc. So I have my Xbox One X in HDMI1, my Gaming PC in HDMI3. My receiver is in HDMI 2 (Arc). My PS4, Direct TV and Samsung 4k Blu Ray Player is hooked up to the receiver. Everything works fine, but the TV when I switch to the Receiver automatically always turns on my PS4. How can I stop it from doing that. I mainly am on the Xbox or the PC so I have TV Audio from the receiver and get my Dolby Atmos from the Xbox no problem (thank you e-Arc). But when I do switch to the Receiver to watch a 4k Movie it automatically turns on the PS4. Just need to know how to stop it from doing that.

Outside of that...any other suggestions/tips for the C9 for a new owner? I have had the set for 24 hours now and still figuring out the menus and stuff so any "advice for new owners" would be welcomed.
I think this is a PS4 issue. There should be a setting in the ps4 for hdmi device link or hdmi cec. If you turn it off, it should stop turning on the ps4.
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Only 5 years. Purchased in early '15. It is a stellar set except when it is turned off and you get that wavy gravy effect on the glass. LOL...
I don't like that either. I didn't have it on my Kuro.

Even though my eyes cannot notice it during actual use with content, when it's off and I see reflections on the panel, it makes me cringe.

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I don't like that either. I didn't have it on my Kuro.

Even though my eyes cannot notice it during actual use with content, when it's off and I see reflections on the panel, it makes me cringe.

Me 2... and was amazed that you did NOT see it at all while viewing content.

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So I ended up getting a 77" C9 after comparing other solutions such as a bigger "premium" LCD Panel and a projector.... So glad I did in the end, as there is nothing quality wise that distracts me from the viewing experience, while still having that home cinema immersion feel.

I was afraid it wouldn't be as good as my 2018 55" Panasonic FZ950, but it is better in every way. Better handling of dark scenes, brighter, and a more uniform panel.

I measured 480nits on a 10% with peak luminance turned off, and 850nits with peak luminance on high. I think Medium provides a good balance between colour accuracy and HDR "punch".
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So I like both Sony A9G and LG E9 TVs but not sure which to get I currently have the Sony Z9D. And buying a different TV. I mostly watch 4k and 1080p movies (no cable at all) I also sometimes play games on my tv when I connect my PC hdmi to the tv so i can play with better sound system but i have a monitor i mostly play on. So what do you guys think. Sony A9G or LG E9
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So I like both Sony A9G and LG E9 TVs but not sure which to get I currently have the Sony Z9D. And buying a different TV. I mostly watch 4k and 1080p movies (no cable at all) I also sometimes play games on my tv when I connect my PC hdmi to the tv so i can play with better sound system but i have a monitor i mostly play on. So what do you guys think. Sony A9G or LG E9
i would say e9 because it has hdmi 2.1 or wait for the next generation of sony with hdmi 2.1
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