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Could someone confirm that C9 is brighter than the C7 in Game-Mode and HDR Game-Mode? Thanks!
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This adapter will be out soon so our C9's can get 4K120 through our videocards displayport.

CAC-1085 DisplayPort™1.4 to HDMI™ 4K120HzHDR Active adapter M/F
The Club 3D CAC-1085 is the perfect solution to
connect to any HDMI™ 4K120Hz ready displays. If
you have a DisplayPort™ 1.4 ready PC or any other
device that lacks the new HDMI™ 4K120Hz specification, the Club3D CAC-1085 will be the simple
way to upgrade your device and connect to your
new TV. With its DP1.4 DSC 1.2 video compression
technology, this adapter is able to convert DP1.4
video signals to HDMI™2.1, supporting video display
resolutions up to 3840x2160 at 120Hz creating life
like colors and movements with HDR giving users
the ultimate visual experience. Support for G-Sync,
FreeSync and VRR bypass. The Adapter is powered
thru an USB Type C to USB Type A cable(provided
with the product).
Features
• Compliant with VESA DisplayPort™ v1.4 Specification
• Compliant with HDMI™ v2.1 Specification
• Support both HDCP 1.4 and HDCP 2.3
• Support DSC v1.2a and backward compatible with the
former version
• Support Max. resolution/refresh rates up to
[email protected] - [email protected]
• Support Dynamic HDR
• Sound Support 5.1-7.1
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This adapter will be out soon so our C9's can get 4K120 through our videocards displayport.

CAC-1085 DisplayPort™1.4 to HDMI™ 4K120HzHDR Active adapter M/F
The Club 3D CAC-1085 is the perfect solution to
connect to any HDMI™ 4K120Hz ready displays. If
you have a DisplayPort™ 1.4 ready PC or any other
device that lacks the new HDMI™ 4K120Hz specification, the Club3D CAC-1085 will be the simple
way to upgrade your device and connect to your
new TV. With its DP1.4 DSC 1.2 video compression
technology, this adapter is able to convert DP1.4
video signals to HDMI™2.1, supporting video display
resolutions up to 3840x2160 at 120Hz creating life
like colors and movements with HDR giving users
the ultimate visual experience. Support for G-Sync,
FreeSync and VRR bypass. The Adapter is powered
thru an USB Type C to USB Type A cable(provided
with the product).
Features
• Compliant with VESA DisplayPort™ v1.4 Specification
• Compliant with HDMI™ v2.1 Specification
• Support both HDCP 1.4 and HDCP 2.3
• Support DSC v1.2a and backward compatible with the
former version
• Support Max. resolution/refresh rates up to
[email protected] - [email protected]
• Support Dynamic HDR
• Sound Support 5.1-7.1
Doesn't support Atmos...
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Doesn't support Atmos...
hmm i use headphones in my pc, sound isn't really important to me. 4k120hz is though
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hmm i use headphones in my pc, sound isn't really important to me. 4k120hz is though
Fair! 🙂

GSYNC/Freesync/VRR will not work on this first batch, a big NO from my SIDE:


https://www.resetera.com/threads/tv-displays-and-tech-thread-ot2-there-is-no-perfect-tv-%E2%84%A2-read-the-op.55230/post-34813692

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I’ll have to call Best Buy and see if one precludes the other... if LG replaces a screen if that makes my Best Buy warranty bull and void. I wouldn’t think so as it’s a panel exchange but who knows.
How would best buy even know? Why would they care you just saved them thousands of dollars. Not to mention this is all hypothetical, as you may not have an issue..... Enjoy that TV
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I’️ll have to call Best Buy and see if one precludes the other... if LG replaces a screen if that makes my Best Buy warranty bull and void. I wouldn’️t think so as it’️s a panel exchange but who knows.
How would best buy even know? Why would they care you just saved them thousands of dollars. Not to mention this is all hypothetical, as you may not have an issue..... Enjoy that TV [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]
I intend to lol, it’s just my military plan within a plan brain... my thought is I’m just gonna use the set as I normally would, if I get burn in hopefully lg will replace the panel, then based on what caused the burn in change my habits and if I still get burn in, then oled isn’t for my play habits and then use the bb warranty to go back to led knowing oled and me are compatible. Hopefully though, None of this will be a problem and the set will last me at least 4 years with no issues.
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Hello everyone, I may be purchasing a 77 inch C9 soon and wanted to see if there's anything I should look for on my initial viewing to make sure its a good panel im receiving. I have couple of HDR white patterns lined up to check for uniformity but also wanted to get your guys thoughts on panel lottery among other things. I am coming from a bright Samsung that i find excellent to this day but since 90% of the viewing is in the dark, i think its time to switch to the dark side for better blacks and larger screen any comments or suggestions are welcome.

PS: is burn-in still a thing? I mostly watch movies and no hardcore gaming, only on occasions so should i be worried?

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Hello everyone, I may be purchasing a 77 inch C9 soon and wanted to see if there's anything I should look for on my initial viewing to make sure its a good panel im receiving. I have couple of HDR white patterns lined up to check for uniformity but also wanted to get your guys thoughts on panel lottery among other things. I am coming from a bright Samsung that i find excellent to this day but since 90% of the viewing is in the dark, i think its time to switch to the dark side for better blacks and larger screen any comments or suggestions are welcome.

PS: is burn-in still a thing? I mostly watch movies and no hardcore gaming, only on occasions so should i be worried?

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I've had my 77" C9 for almost a year now (I think I purchased it around Memorial Day last year). I don't think that burn-in is a big issue anymore but to be honest I have never seen any on my 2015 OLED either. I also don't keep it on one of those channels with the logos on the same part of the screen either. As far as uniformity, I haven't seen any issue with that either but I also haven't looked for it. I think that if you actually look for issues like that, then you're going to me noticing them all the time. I am really enjoying this TV and it's been my favorite TV purchase yet but it's also been the most I ever paid for a TV as well.
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This adapter will be out soon so our C9's can get 4K120 through our videocards displayport.

CAC-1085 DisplayPort™1.4 to HDMI™ 4K120HzHDR Active adapter M/F
The Club 3D CAC-1085 is the perfect solution to
connect to any HDMI™ 4K120Hz ready displays. If
you have a DisplayPort™ 1.4 ready PC or any other
device that lacks the new HDMI™ 4K120Hz specification, the Club3D CAC-1085 will be the simple
way to upgrade your device and connect to your
new TV. With its DP1.4 DSC 1.2 video compression
technology, this adapter is able to convert DP1.4
video signals to HDMI™2.1, supporting video display
resolutions up to 3840x2160 at 120Hz creating life
like colors and movements with HDR giving users
the ultimate visual experience. Support for G-Sync,
FreeSync and VRR bypass. The Adapter is powered
thru an USB Type C to USB Type A cable(provided
with the product).
Features
• Compliant with VESA DisplayPort™ v1.4 Specification
• Compliant with HDMI™ v2.1 Specification
• Support both HDCP 1.4 and HDCP 2.3
• Support DSC v1.2a and backward compatible with the
former version
• Support Max. resolution/refresh rates up to
[email protected] - [email protected]
• Support Dynamic HDR
• Sound Support 5.1-7.1
Link please? Thanks

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I've had my 77" C9 for almost a year now (I think I purchased it around Memorial Day last year). I don't think that burn-in is a big issue anymore but to be honest I have never seen any on my 2015 OLED either. I also don't keep it on one of those channels with the logos on the same part of the screen either. As far as uniformity, I haven't seen any issue with that either but I also haven't looked for it. I think that if you actually look for issues like that, then you're going to me noticing them all the time. I am really enjoying this TV and it's been my favorite TV purchase yet but it's also been the most I ever paid for a TV as well.
Thanks Lujan! I am buying from a unauthorized dealer so I would def. want to check hours on it and match serial numbers etc if one can point me in the right direction.

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Hey guys. I was on the forum getting help to take the plunge into Oled... Yep, I was worried about screen burn! A few really kind people really helped me and put me at ease... So I ordered the C9 55inch. It arrive Wednesday! I've been waiting 2 weeks for delivery!

Now I'm getting concerned. I hear the C9 or Oled in general isn't very good at 24fp. I'm hearing that it isn't really a good choice of tv if your into your films or gaming as the stuttering makes it a nightmare? I've seen tube videos showing this! Omg someone help me!
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Fair! 🙂

GSYNC/Freesync/VRR will not work on this first batch, a big NO from my SIDE:


https://www.resetera.com/threads/tv-.../post-34813692
Let's not forget but there are actually 2 SKUs to look at.

1) Is the CAC-1085 Display Port 1.4 to HDMI 2.1 adapter that you guys have mentioned.
2) The other is the CAC-1585 USB-C DP Alt mode 1.4 to HDMI 2.1 4K120Hz- HDR Active adapter.

It too can support VRR / G-Sync / FreeSync.
It is basically just running DisplayPort over USB-C so it should work exactly the same way as the CAC-1085 DP to HDMI adapter.
But... The CAC-1585 has an advantage of not having to waste a USB port in order to power the device unlike the DP to HDMI adapter variant since it is powered through the same USB BUS so no external power is needed.
As long as you have an RTX card that comes with the USB-C port for running DisplayPort 1.4 alternate mode through it, you should be fine using this adapter.

Now the same question applies... When is it planned to be released and will the 1st production run units be able to support VRR/G-Sync?
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Let's not forget but there are actually 2 SKUs to look at.

1) Is the CAC-1085 Display Port 1.4 to HDMI 2.1 adapter that you guys have mentioned.
2) The other is the CAC-1585 USB-C DP Alt mode 1.4 to HDMI 2.1 4K120Hz- HDR Active adapter.

It too can support VRR / G-Sync / FreeSync.
It is basically just running DisplayPort over USB-C so it should work exactly the same way as the CAC-1085 DP to HDMI adapter.
But... The CAC-1585 has an advantage of not having to waste a USB port in order to power the device unlike the DP to HDMI adapter variant since it is powered through the same USB BUS so no external power is needed.
As long as you have an RTX card that comes with the USB-C port for running DisplayPort 1.4 alternate mode through it, you should be fine using this adapter.

Now the same question applies... When is it planned to be released and will the 1st production run units be able to support VRR/G-Sync?

Beware youe mileage can vary with adapter compatibility and reliability, Club3D included.
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I must ADMIT that I am having the exact same issue.

The C9 is a fantastic OLED, but, to my eyes, there is definitevely something wrong with motion/blurriness. I come from a Sony A1 and I never struggled with motion issues (even if that set had its own problems..).
From the moment I started watching videos with the C9, though, I never stopped (even now, 3 months later) trying to find the best combination of motion settings that are acceptable to my eyes.

Note that I am not saying "to my taste", but "to my eyes", because I actually have sight issues when whatching something on the C9: maybe there is something that my brain does not digest in some way....

It's a real pity, because otherwise I could be extremely satisfied.
I just can’t figure out what to do. This stutter is driving me mad! It didn’t seem to exist on my E6 and so it just makes no sense to me that I’d have issues with this on a 3 year newer set.

But what can be done? I’ve changed motion settings like you 100 times! Anyone have any other suggestions?
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I just can’t figure out what to do. This stutter is driving me mad! It didn’t seem to exist on my E6 and so it just makes no sense to me that I’d have issues with this on a 3 year newer set.

But what can be done? I’ve changed motion settings like you 100 times! Anyone have any other suggestions?
Have you tried Trumotion on Clear? I had a Skyworth/Metz OLED before C9. That had a late-2018 panel like Philips TVs. The stutter on it was really hard and choppy without any motion interpolation. C9 is better than that even with all settings off, but I still got headaches if a movie had too much movement. Trumotion to Clear has worked really well for me.
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Seriously, we have more activity on a 4 yr old Samsung KS thread. I am planning on getting a c9 soon and see lots of questions going unanswered in the thread about motion and such. Wheres the C9ers?

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Seriously, we have more activity on a 4 yr old Samsung KS thread. I am planning on getting a c9 soon and see lots of questions going unanswered in the thread about motion and such. Wheres the C9ers?
I've got mine being delivered tomorrow. I've called Richer Sounds and tried to cancel it but it's too late so they have told me to just refuse delivery at the door and a refund will be issued on return. I was primarily wanting it for movies but it seems movies it's it weak point. Massive stuttering and artifacts according to everything I'm reading on here and else where.
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Seriously, we have more activity on a 4 yr old Samsung KS thread. I am planning on getting a c9 soon and see lots of questions going unanswered in the thread about motion and such. Wheres the C9ers?
Maybe most of us are happy with our displays and have nothing to offer. I am not a fan of processing, so I don't use it and regardless of the display (again not a fan of motion settings since I am very sensitive to soap effect). Watch some content on a plasma and you will still get a stutter when panning.

I am going back to enjoying my display, you guys can fret about burn-in, motion, upscaling, uniformity and such. If I was concerned about any of those things I would go with LCD and learn to live with all of their shortcomings
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Maybe most of us are happy with our displays and have nothing to offer. I am not a fan of processing, so I don't use it and regardless of the display (again not a fan of motion settings since I am very sensitive to soap effect). Watch some content on a plasma and you will still get a stutter when panning.

I am going back to enjoying my display, you guys can fret about burn-in, motion, upscaling, uniformity and such. If I was concerned about any of those things I would go with LCD and learn to live with all of their shortcomings [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]

I was just kind of worried about the stutter I've heard about and was looking for a little guidance. I decided to get the set with the hope that if I face any issues I can come on here and get some advice. Sorry for the previous comments. I'm just anxious about my new TV. Never had Oled before.
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I would take a couple hours and read through this whole thread or do chunks of it at a time if you have the time. You will get any and ALL your questions answered. I did it when it was around 260.



The TV's great for gaming. You can check the link in my sig. for the gaming thread with lots of great info. I mostly game on mine. I replied back to one of your posts a week ago or so about the burn in. Its relatively not even a thought for me. The OLED is great. I'm not sure about the stuttering for movies. I haven't noticed it. Happy reading if you go that route.
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I've got mine being delivered tomorrow. I've called Richer Sounds and tried to cancel it but it's too late so they have told me to just refuse delivery at the door and a refund will be issued on return. I was primarily wanting it for movies but it seems movies it's it weak point. Massive stuttering and artifacts according to everything I'm reading on here and else where.

I only watch limited movies/TV on my C9, mostly PC usage and PC/console gaming, and has been an answer to my prayers.


As for 24frame movies, yes, the stutter was noticeable and distracting for me with RealCinema ON. Most people (purists, movie fans) prefer this on because it's a true 24frame cadence, but OLED's fast pixel refresh made motion look very stuttery to my eyes, so I don't like it. Turning RC off, which adds a pulldown intended for 60hz panels, looked better for my eyes. This will replace the even stutter with an uneven "jutter", which I guess I'm used to from previous TVs.


Another option is turning TruMotion ON, which greys out RC (it's OFF) and will fix both the stutter and jutter, but you might notice artifacts or be sensitive to the Soap Opera Effect.


So hopefully the stutter of RealCinema won't bother your eyes - if it does turn it off and see if the judder bothers you. If it does, turn on TruMotion -- "Clear" is a good starting point, or +3 de-jutter and +3 de-blur. You have options to try.


Good luck with your future TVs.
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I've got mine being delivered tomorrow. I've called Richer Sounds and tried to cancel it but it's too late so they have told me to just refuse delivery at the door and a refund will be issued on return. I was primarily wanting it for movies but it seems movies it's it weak point. Massive stuttering and artifacts according to everything I'm reading on here and else where.
I notice stutter more than some and with TrueMotion set to 3/3 it removes almost all of it, to my eyes anyway. The Clear setting will do an even better job, but I do notice SOE so I kept playing with the custom User Mode until I found the best compromise to both stutter and SOE... Think of User 3/3 as "Clear Light".

I've had my TV since Nov 2019 and it's coming up on 2K hours and I haven't thought about motion, stuttering or SOE since it was a baby.
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I just can’t figure out what to do. This stutter is driving me mad! It didn’t seem to exist on my E6 and so it just makes no sense to me that I’d have issues with this on a 3 year newer set.

But what can be done? I’ve changed motion settings like you 100 times! Anyone have any other suggestions?
Try setting TruMotion to User and set De-Judder to 10 and De-Blur to 10 and see if that works.
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I recently got the 77" and I have always had a light gray wall behind it. I just painted in matte black and it made a hugeee difference! Especially for movies when the format changes and it gives us the top/bottom black bars. Definitely recommend it if you guys are able to.
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Can anyone tell how to change Real Cinema option?! My is disabled and I can't change it!!

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Can anyone tell how to change Real Cinema option?! My is disabled and I can't change it!!

It's not available in some modes, like "Game" for example.
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