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Setting up a new media room

I am setting up a new media room and replacing my display. I am considering OLED, 65 inch, though several people on here have recommended a projector. I will be at about a 66" viewing distance, give or take. There will rarely be a second row of seating behind that so I am only worried about primary seating. Having never owned a 4k TV, is a 65 inch TV enough, or too big, or too small? Do I need a projector?

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How far away will your equipment (devices) be from the C8? I have a 65 C8 and sit about 10' away and have the C8 on a media console. For us, that is perfect because eye level is dead center to the panel and we can take in the entire screen without moving our heads right to left or up (if wall mounted). Of course that is a personal preference so there is no right or wrong when mounting your tv. I don't have a projector but they are very nice if you have the space and are setup correctly.
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66" is only 5.5', isn't that pretty close for a projector?
Seems like it may also be extremely close for a 65"


I would bring a tape measure with you to Best Buy (or equivalent) and watch some TV trying to view 4k, 1080, and 720 if possible and see how it all looks to you.


Different people how different limits on how close they like to watch TV, so make sure what you buy will be what YOU like not what someone likes.


Good luck on your choice.
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How far away will your equipment (devices) be from the C8? I have a 65 C8 and sit about 10' away and have the C8 on a media console. For us, that is perfect because eye level is dead center to the panel and we can take in the entire screen without moving our heads right to left or up (if wall mounted). Of course that is a personal preference so there is no right or wrong when mounting your tv. I don't have a projector but they are very nice if you have the space and are setup correctly.



I have a 65B6 and moved my sofa so that I could sit a few feet closer than that.
There is no right and wrong. To each his own.
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I have a 65B6 and moved my sofa so that I could sit a few feet closer than that.
There is no right and wrong. To each his own.
That's what I said in my response. It's a personal preference and there is no right or wrong .

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What are the measurements of the room? I would almost consider using the wall where the headboard of the bed is as a good place for a screen.
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How far away will your equipment (devices) be from the C8? I have a 65 C8 and sit about 10' away and have the C8 on a media console. For us, that is perfect because eye level is dead center to the panel and we can take in the entire screen without moving our heads right to left or up (if wall mounted). Of course that is a personal preference so there is no right or wrong when mounting your tv. I don't have a projector but they are very nice if you have the space and are setup correctly.
Seating distance is a good question. I have some flexibility, though I think eyeball to screen will be about 6 feet. I will have the screen on a media stand in line with the front of the speakers, so I will have the flexibility to move the screen back to the wall if I feel like I am too close. Or move the seating forward or back a foot or two. Right now I am starting with the THX recommended .85 of the distance to screen for the screen size.

Good to know that a 65" at 10 feet feels about right for you.

Once I zero in on where I want to sit, I will install Atmos accordingly.
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What are the measurements of the room? I would almost consider using the wall where the headboard of the bed is as a good place for a screen.
I considered that as an option as well. It will mean that the right-side speakers are much farther from their side-wall than the left-side. I don't know how much of a problem that would be.

The room is about 14x17 I am guessing, though I will have to measure it once I get there to consider final designs.
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66" is only 5.5', isn't that pretty close for a projector?
Seems like it may also be extremely close for a 65"


I would bring a tape measure with you to Best Buy (or equivalent) and watch some TV trying to view 4k, 1080, and 720 if possible and see how it all looks to you.


Different people how different limits on how close they like to watch TV, so make sure what you buy will be what YOU like not what someone likes.


Good luck on your choice.
That is exactly what I was thinking: going off of the chart recommendations and then figuring it out from there. I have a little flexibility to move the seating back or the screen forward, but once I do the Best-Buy run I will decide whether to go with 55 or 65.

At this point I do think OLED will be far superior to projector, and since I have no plans for second-row requirements, I don't think a projector is right for me.

Thanks for your comment. It is good to hear from people who are actually using the equipment I am considering and hearing what they think. I am upgrading from a 10-yr-old 1080p 48", and moving every couple of years to a new apartment while serving in the military. I am excited to design something that I will be able to keep and use for the foreseeable future.
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I considered that as an option as well. It will mean that the right-side speakers are much farther from their side-wall than the left-side. I don't know how much of a problem that would be.

The room is about 14x17 I am guessing, though I will have to measure it once I get there to consider final designs.

If you are mounting on speaker stands, it shouldn't matter at all, other than the consideration of covering up the speaker wire, which you can do with tape and/or a rug/carpet.
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Not trying to push you toward a projector, but if you really do have a 17 x 14 space, you have the room for it. I have a 13 x 12 area with a 110 " screen and full 7.1.4 atmos configuration and it's a lot of fun watching movies in there! If you're interested, I have posted a few pictures of how my HT space is setup.
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Not trying to push you toward a projector, but if you really do have a 17 x 14 space, you have the room for it. I have a 13 x 12 area with a 110 " screen and full 7.1.4 atmos configuration and it's a lot of fun watching movies in there! If you're interested, I have posted a few pictures of how my HT space is setup.
The photos are very helpful for me: some of the layouts I have come up with were concerning to me since the speakers might be too close to the listener. Do you have any issues with this on your surround and rear speakers when someone sits in the seat right next to the speaker?
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The photos are very helpful for me: some of the layouts I have come up with were concerning to me since the speakers might be too close to the listener. Do you have any issues with this on your surround and rear speakers when someone sits in the seat right next to the speaker?



To be honest, my setup is mostly geared toward the middle two seats, since I rarely have company. However, I have sat in the outer seats for testing and didn't have a bad experience at all. When I run Audyssey, I start out with the mic in the very middle of the 4 row seating (on the arm rest toward back near ear height), then do all four seating positions at the rear toward ear height, then come back to the middle arm rest again, this time about 10 inches forward, then the same forward area of the two middle seats. This seems to help with getting a fairly balanced listening experience across all seating positions. I think 3 seats would have been easier to work with for this setup but I pushed it to 4 as I want to be able to have two couples sitting in the theater at the same time with a similar experience for all.
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Here is my setup for reference. I am right at 6' from eyeball to screen surface. It is perfect to me. Turn off the lights and it feels like I am middle to the back of a theater with better sound. Besides sitting close to a big TV is cheaper and easier than projection with the goodies of HDR, Dolby Vision,and brightness.
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I have a 55 inch OLED LG P6 and it is in a very small room about 12 x 8 feet and I sit 5 feet from the screen. I would not mind it being larger.
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Seating distance is a good question. I have some flexibility, though I think eyeball to screen will be about 6 feet. I will have the screen on a media stand in line with the front of the speakers, so I will have the flexibility to move the screen back to the wall if I feel like I am too close. Or move the seating forward or back a foot or two. Right now I am starting with the THX recommended .85 of the distance to screen for the screen size.

Good to know that a 65" at 10 feet feels about right for you.

Once I zero in on where I want to sit, I will install Atmos accordingly.
Distance charts are nice as a starting point but it really comes down to what is comfortable to you. There are folks who sit 4' away from a 65" tv and feel that's perfectly fine. The other distance consideration is cable length.
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To be honest, my setup is mostly geared toward the middle two seats, since I rarely have company. However, I have sat in the outer seats for testing and didn't have a bad experience at all. When I run Audyssey, I start out with the mic in the very middle of the 4 row seating (on the arm rest toward back near ear height), then do all four seating positions at the rear toward ear height, then come back to the middle arm rest again, this time about 10 inches forward, then the same forward area of the two middle seats. This seems to help with getting a fairly balanced listening experience across all seating positions. I think 3 seats would have been easier to work with for this setup but I pushed it to 4 as I want to be able to have two couples sitting in the theater at the same time with a similar experience for all.
Yeah, I am thinking about the same things you did. While I have a little more space, that I intend to have in the back of the room, I would like to have two couples listening at the same time. If I set that up in a side-by-side configuration, the edge-listeners are pretty close to the surrounds. Anyway, I will mostly be watching TV/movies alone or with my wife so I am focussing on that.
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Here is my setup for reference. I am right at 6' from eyeball to screen surface. It is perfect to me. Turn off the lights and it feels like I am middle to the back of a theater with better sound. Besides sitting close to a big TV is cheaper and easier than projection with the goodies of HDR, Dolby Vision,and brightness.

What kind of ceiling speakers are those?
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Yamaha NS-AW1. They are indoor/outdoor speakers. Like the rest of my speakers, no longer in production. I had one pair from ages ago when I bought new and was using as Atmos 5.1.2 when I set up the room. After 8 months I wanted more and got a new receiver and was lucky to find another pair still sealed in box on ebay for super cheap.

TV: LG OLED 65B7A, Receiver: Marantz SR-6012, Blu-Ray Player: LG UBK90, Fronts: JBL S312, Center: JBL S-Center, Surrounds: JBL S38, Top: Yamaha NS-AW1, Subwoofer: 2 PSA S3000i and one PSA XS-30se--- 5.3.4 setup
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Yamaha NS-AW1. They are indoor/outdoor speakers. Like the rest of my speakers, no longer in production. I had one pair from ages ago when I bought new and was using as Atmos 5.1.2 when I set up the room. After 8 months I wanted more and got a new receiver and was lucky to find another pair still sealed in box on ebay for super cheap.

Nice! They look like they can bring the noise!
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