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post #901 of 2724 Old 06-23-2019, 02:29 PM
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HDCP is not hdmi. HDCP is for copyright protection. These are probably hdmi 2.0B
thanks for the clarification. Yea the way the manual described it was a bit confusing for a non-tech geeky guy. I didn’t understand it till now. Thanks man.

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You should be able to use the 1080 slides. The tv will just upscale them.
Ok, good to know. But if anyone got 4K files to share I’d love that.

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Question Followup question for seanos

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Got tv this afternoon.
Only a few hours in, but so far I’m super impressed! Watched couple 4k films, some 4k tv content on prime/netflix and some 1080p content.

I’m coming from a calibrated Panasonic ZT60.
I’m super impressed by the new set; blacks seem better than the plasma, colours really pop, and screen in general is lovely.
Huge fan of the thin border and how close it is to the stand.
1080p content is surprisingly good looking. Anime looks pretty amazing too; colours really shine and halo’ing seems less, which is great.

Although not using any built-in apps (I just want a plain ole TV, damnit), interface is pretty nice/snappy and stays mostly out of the way.
Could you please share a little MORE on this specifically. other than "surprisingly good"...i.e. 1080i /broadcast material". That, to many of us, is the key thing, as no doubt 1080p and then 4K will look astounding...but it is that "twilight" area of basic broadcast material that some plasma owners feel their units still at the least, "hold their own" versus even OLED in terms of handling things like facial sharpness some 4K offer "clay-like" faces and basic sharpness inferior to our venerable 1080 plasma TVs. I was looking at my Panasonic plasma yesterday night and marveled at how clean the faces were rendered, both sharpness and color.
Thanks for your feedback !
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Could you please share a little MORE on this specifically. other than "surprisingly good"...i.e. 1080i /broadcast material". That, to many of us, is the key thing, as no doubt 1080p and then 4K will look astounding...but it is that "twilight" area of basic broadcast material that some plasma owners feel their units still at the least, "hold their own" versus even OLED in terms of handling things like facial sharpness some 4K offer "clay-like" faces and basic sharpness inferior to our venerable 1080 plasma TVs. I was looking at my Panasonic plasma yesterday night and marveled at how clean the faces were rendered, both sharpness and color.
Thanks for your feedback !

I also have a Panasonic plasma and though lower quality 720p/1080i content may not look quite as good on the A9G, it is still more than acceptable for me. The X1 Ultimate, and Sony TVs in general, are very strong in this regard.
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Could you please share a little MORE on this specifically. other than "surprisingly good"...i.e. 1080i /broadcast material".
I’m afraid I’ve not tried out any 720p/1080i content, 1080p is as low as I’ve tried.
I’ve not seen the issues you describe. Blacks, colours all look as good as I recall them being on the plasma (I had a 2-month gap with no TV, so going on memory a bit, not side-by-side). I think crispness was slightly better on my previous plasma; but that could be memory bias, or the fact I’ve now seen 4k and non-4k looks worse.
A huge gain has been the lack of banding on the OLED, which I found previously apparently.

Overall I think 1080p content is as good as what I previously had (better in some slight ways, possible worse in other slight ways). Afraid I can’t comment further or in more detail without having sets side-by-side.
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I watched an old 720p movie that I had on a USB last night. It looked better than I expected. No banding with smooth gradation set to OFF.

I can’t compare it to my long gone VT60 plasma, but 720p is definitely watchable. I’ve yet to try my OTA antenna, since I don’t really watch cable.

I think most people will probably be happy with the upscaling of the A9G.


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I watched an old 720p movie that I had on a USB last night. It looked better than I expected. No banding with smooth gradation set to OFF.

I can’t compare it to my long gone VT60 plasma, but 720p is definitely watchable. I’ve yet to try my OTA antenna, since I don’t really watch cable.

I think most people will probably be happy with the upscaling of the A9G.


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X1 ultimate chipset TVs are top dog right now in the upscaling department.


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Sony's X-reality pro scaling engine has always been the best out there and will continue to be in the future in my opinion. It can do a good job even when fed video that is somewhat garbage...
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HT room is about finished, just have to get wire to the RP502S surrounds, and can now FINALLY watch my A9G. Still have to mount my A8F over the fireplace...



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if you want the best (studio quality) upscaling, you upscale through madvr. it gives 1080 P content the quality of an upscaled 4 K Blu-ray in real time.

the x1 ultimate is the best as far as integrated chipsets go, but it's still soft in comparison.
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I’m just anxious to get my hands on this TV after sending back 3 85” 950g’s for various screen issues. Wish the screen was 85” (first world problems), but excited about the PQ, and hopefully better quality control.
950G is is a mid tear product, its not even going to compare to OLED. Samsung Q90R is about the only LED that has a chance against OLED at this current time.
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I watched an old 720p movie that I had on a USB last night. It looked better than I expected. No banding with smooth gradation set to OFF.

I can’t compare it to my long gone VT60 plasma, but 720p is definitely watchable. I’ve yet to try my OTA antenna, since I don’t really watch cable.

I think most people will probably be happy with the upscaling of the A9G.


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But I want to add that, some stuff is source dependent as always. For example, I was watching Episode 1 of the The Kominsky Method on Netflix (Calibrated Mode) at 1080p last night and caught some subtle banding in the illumination of the stage lights during a few select scenes.

I suppose some people might toggle between Smooth Gradation Low and Off to help alleviate this issue, but it's usually so subtle that I just leave it Off and not worry with it.
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I think most people will probably be happy with the upscaling of the A9G.
I plugged in our old VCR and watched a VHS from 1997. It looked so much better than expected. Really soft with the upscaling from 333×480 resolution, but considering how few pixels the set has to work with (and so little color information) I was pretty happy.
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HT room is about finished, just have to get wire to the RP502S surrounds, and can now FINALLY watch my A9G. Still have to mount my A8F over the fireplace...







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Question madvr ?

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if you want the best (studio quality) upscaling, you upscale through madvr. it gives 1080 P content the quality of an upscaled 4 K Blu-ray in real time.

the x1 ultimate is the best as far as integrated chipsets go, but it's still soft in comparison.
Could you elaborate about "madvr" ?? Not familiar !
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Could you elaborate about "madvr" ?? Not familiar !

Been used via HTPC for a while, and is supposed to be the best scaler. They were coming out with a stand-alone box, not sure of status. Most of my viewing is 1080p/24 and 2160p/24, so I haven't worried with it much. The sony looks great on those as is and I dont need another box lol.

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Been used via HTPC for a while, and is supposed to be the best scaler. They were coming out with a stand-alone box, not sure of status. Most of my viewing is 1080p/24 and 2160p/24, so I haven't worried with it much. The sony looks great on those as is and I dont need another box lol.
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Did you turn the TV on? How does it look?
Only been able to watch some Uverse, and other than Uverse being a little soft, it looks good. I did fire up some 1080p/24 real quick and that looked sharp and great.
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Did you turn the TV on? How does it look?
Only been able to watch some Uverse, and other than Uverse being a little soft, it looks good. I did fire up some 1080p/24 real quick and that looked sharp and great.
Surprised to hear a Sony owner say their picture looks soft, I thought Sony was the best 😎

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Surprised to hear a Sony owner say their picture looks soft, I thought Sony was the best 😎

Enjoy the tv, it’s as good as it gets coming from John

Well, you can't do much about cable/satellite compression nowadays, IMO they are compressed for about a 55" image and I am sitting 6.5 feet from a 65". Blemishes show. Now when I watch the 1080p/24 Amazon versions of a tv show, they look spectacular, but its all bitrate.
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Just received my 77' A9G on Saturday. It is insane!! Compared to my A1E, it is definitely an upgrade. The overall colors, contrast, & vibrance of the picture is significantly better!
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2019 Sony A9G Master Series OLED Owner's Thread

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Surprised to hear a Sony owner say their picture looks soft, I thought Sony was the best

Enjoy the tv, it’s as good as it gets coming from John


I’ve owned every previous lg since 2015 except the c9, and i also owned the a8f, q90r, Q9fn, z9d. I think this beats all of them in the upscaling department. I sit fairly close to me 65 and watch a lot of Verizon fios cable, so upscaling quality is important to me.


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I was being slightly sarcastic 😉

This or the LGs are still great TVs.
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I have that same setup and experienced the same thing using Sony’s Netflix via eArc to my Yamaha 3080 receiver.
I tried lowering the jitter level on the Yamaha from level 3 down to level 2 then 1 then off. Yamaha says level 3 can cause issues like this. None helped. I then turned off Dolby plus on the Sony and left it at Dolby. It works for some reason. I no longer have the issue as of 3 hours of viewing. I was getting the audio dropouts or audio hiccups about once a minute or so.
I spent a day or two trying to troubleshoot this issue. Most of my dropouts were experienced with 2-channel sound from Hulu when outputting TV audio in DD+.
Up until last night, my Yamaha 3080 was still cutting out until I connected another receiver (Denon AVR-X4400H) to my Sony A9G using DD+ output. I first updated the Denon's firmware to the latest version (eARC) and kept the A9G at DD+ output. After updating the firmware, the Denon didn't seem to exhibit any ARC issues and was detecting the Dolby Digital Plus signal without any dropouts. I then unplugged the Denon and then plugged the Yamaha back in. This is where things got weird.
The Yamaha no longer has audio dropouts but now the Denon no longer recognizes DD+. I tried rebooting the TV, but the Denon still does not see a DD+ signal. In fact, I get no audio output from the Denon when I play Taylor Swift's Reputation Concert on Netflix (Dolby Vision/Atmos). Other ATMOS/5.1 titles seem to play OK, but for some reason, the Denon doesn't like the Taylor Swift content .

It is clear that something is still going on with the handshake/EDID from the Sony. Either way, this is not isolated to just Yamaha. I have a Dolby Atmos Bluray demo disc and played Dolby TrueHD and DD+ clips to the Yamaha and Denon without any issues (a Sony 4K player was used). Based on my research and firsthand experience, it seems that Sony still has issues with ARC.

Perhaps Denon was my savior and took one for the team. It is the strangest thing ever. I am knocking on wood in hopes that this audio dropout flaw/issue has been fixed for me.

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Any indications of a price drop incoming for the 65 or 77? I'd prefer the A9G to the C9, but that price difference for the 65 is a bit much.
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Any indications of a price drop incoming for the 65 or 77? I'd prefer the A9G to the C9, but that price difference for the 65 is a bit much.

My dealer told me the price was said to be solid through August.
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Generally, see something Jul/Aug, and then again in Oct/Nov. Summer not a guarantee though.

If you go through someone like Cleveland Plasma or VE, you can save on sales tax though , which helps.

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Count me as an owner of the 77" a9g I just placed my order from VE. I'm sure @jrref will do an amazing job with my panel! Here's hoping I get one with minimal banding... my 2017 panel is actually pretty crummy and shows banding in most content which does negatively impact my enjoyment of it.

First thing I'll do is watch Bladerunner 2049 and see if I have banding watching that! It was the first movie I noticed banding on my LG. I don't expect it to be completely gone but I'm hoping I see it a lot less!
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Count me as an owner of the 77" a9g I just placed my order from VE. I'm sure @jrref will do an amazing job with my panel! Here's hoping I get one with minimal banding... my 2017 panel is actually pretty crummy and shows banding in most content which does negatively impact my enjoyment of it.

First thing I'll do is watch Bladerunner 2049 and see if I have banding watching that! It was the first movie I noticed banding on my LG. I don't expect it to be completely gone but I'm hoping I see it a lot less!
Don't worry about banding. The sets I've been seeing are very good in that area. I just looked at your set and
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"HDMI Dynamic Range" feature setting?

What are the case usage for selecting HDMI Video Range setting of "Full" or "Limited"?
I'm sending 4K HDR10 Blu Ray content from the Panasonic UB820 in Full, and the blacks are lifted, gain is increased, everything appears washed out. When I select Limited, the blacks are deeper, colors more saturated. Obviously, I prefer Limited because the HDR simply pops out of the screen but now I'm wondering why the "Full" video range is supposed to be better (more colors, more accuracy?) if it ends up reducing the punch of HDR - Any opinions?

Sony's website explains it thus:
"The HDMI® Dynamic Range feature helps produce natural color by changing the luminance tone reproduction of HDMI input color signals. The dynamic range of the image is reproduced properly by selecting the desired dynamic range for signal type being used.
* Use the Auto setting during normal operation. The Auto setting automatically selects the dynamic range Full or Limited based on dynamic range information coming from connected device.
* The Full setting should be used when you would like the signal range fixed to full range. An example may be a high-definition signal from a device connected using an HDMI cable.
* Limited: The signal range is fixed to limited range. This should be used when less color is desired.
There is small possibility that the connected HDMI device will send wrong dynamic range information. In this case, if Auto is selected the TV will default to a limited dynamic range and the picture may appear with either white saturation (no details in bright white areas) or black saturation (no detail in dark scenes)."

Edit: actually, I realized that maybe it's my bad for enabling the Panasonic's HDR Optimizer, this may result in over processing of the image so let me run some A/B testing with and without the Optimizer on Full/Limited and I'll let you guys know.

Last edited by 8KCRT; 06-26-2019 at 02:14 PM. Reason: clarification, addition
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