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Both the A9F and A9G look pretty good out of the box. I would still get it ISF professionally calibrated for the best picture. I bought the A9F in May and had a chance to swap it out for an A9G, but could not get past the cheaper look of the A9G when compared to the A9F.

I plan on getting my 9F calibrated by Chad B. once I've put some hours on it. Not sure where you're located. but Chad is a roving calibrator and covers a pretty wide territory. Would recommend him if you live in his service area.

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Also -- i never had my A9F calibrated. I'd like to get the new A9G professionally calibrated. How do i go about that?
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Both the A9F and A9G look pretty good out of the box. I would still get it ISF professionally calibrated for the best picture. I bought the A9F in May and had a chance to swap it out for an A9G, but could not get past the cheaper look of the A9G when compared to the A9F.

I plan on getting my 9F calibrated by Chad B. once I've put some hours on it. Not sure where you're located. but Chad is a roving calibrator and covers a pretty wide territory. Would recommend him if you live in his service area.
Thanks i'll look into him. What do you mean by cheaper look of the A9G?
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Matter of taste, but I had a chance to look at an A9G at BB. A lot of plastic, especially on the backside for the speakers and cable covers. The bezel looks less expensive and the stand seems cheap. You would not think much of it if you had not lived with an A9F. Quality just seemed closer to the LG C9 rather than the A9F. Expected, since Sony had to find a way to cut costs in order to lower the price and compete with LG. Not as much of a factor if you are wall mounting. but I have mine on a cabinet. These factors plus the downgrade in speakers was not offset by the better remote and maybe faster apps and tiles of the A9G. Again, just didn't work for me.

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Thanks i'll look into him. What do you mean by cheaper look of the A9G?


Seems premium enough to me. Build quality is actually outstanding imho and way better looking than the sandwich board design.
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Seems premium enough to me. Build quality is actually outstanding imho and way better looking than the sandwich board design.
It's ok, but it seemed more on par with the A8F when I recently saw it at BB. A8G seemed a step below, about on par with LG OLEDs.

Other than material quality, I think Sony did a good job with the styling. When I was approaching it from the side, It actually looked much thinner than a typical OLED when you are looking at from a side view. I think it's because they made electronics box thinner and made it extend higher up the back of the display. The result is that you don't really see the electronics box from most angles. On an LG the electronics box is concentrated all at the bottom and extends edge to edge, making the overall TV profile pretty fat despite the top being razor thin. I was never a fan of that look.

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Matter of taste, but I had a chance to look at an A9G at BB. A lot of plastic, especially on the backside for the speakers and cable covers. The bezel looks less expensive and the stand seems cheap. You would not think much of it if you had not lived with an A9F. Quality just seemed closer to the LG C9 rather than the A9F. Expected, since Sony had to find a way to cut costs in order to lower the price and compete with LG. Not as much of a factor if you are wall mounting. but I have mine on a cabinet. These factors plus the downgrade in speakers was not offset by the better remote and maybe faster apps and tiles of the A9G. Again, just didn't work for me.


Wrong. It does not look closer to the LG than to the a9f. The a9g frame is thicker and much sturdier. I guess to each his own. I personally think the A9f stand looks absolutely ridiculous. People laugh when they see it. The designers must’ve been on something when they designed it.
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Gee, never had anyone laugh at the A9F. A lot of oohs and ahhs when watching 4k movies, yes. Guess you missed the part where said "Again, just didn't work for me."

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Wrong. It does not look closer to the LG than to the a9f. The a9g frame is thicker and much sturdier. I guess to each his own. I personally think the A9f stand looks absolutely ridiculous. People laugh when they see it. The designers must’ve been on something when they designed it.
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Gee, never had anyone laugh at the A9F. A lot of oohs and ahhs when watching 4k movies, yes. Guess you missed the part where said "Again, just didn't work for me."


That’s why all of this is subjective, when it comes to design, when it comes to PQ of course there will be oohs and ahhs .
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Is the motion worth the upgrade from a af8? I had to go through 3 af8's to get a good one. I do not want to go through all that again if its not worth it.

I dont see a motion difference. I haven't watched much HDR yet, but the A9G really seems to pop in those highlights.
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Gee, never had anyone laugh at the A9F. A lot of oohs and ahhs when watching 4k movies, yes. Guess you missed the part where said "Again, just didn't work for me."

Owners thread, and as admitting you bought the older model, there is a thread for you.
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Sorry dude. The man asked for an opinion. Didn't mean to tread on your thread.



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I dont see a motion difference. I haven't watched much HDR yet, but the A9G really seems to pop in those highlights.


The quality of the specular highlights on this set are outstanding, and sets it apart from the rest imho.
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Sorry dude. The man asked for an opinion. Didn't mean to tread on your thread.

Understood, I think everyone's point was proven and wanted to avoid too much back and forth on the F, G or LG. They are all good, love the one you with. We are at the point the debate is over minuscule things with OLED, and that is good for all of us.
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The quality of the specular highlights on this set are outstanding, and sets it apart from the rest imho.

Watched the first episode of Too Old To Die Young on Amazon, and the neon lights at night were very bright.
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A lot of plastic, especially on the backside for the speakers and cable covers.
I feel you, but when are you or others going to be looking at the back of the TV?

I love the quick settings menu on the A9G and the fact that you can edit it to gain faster access to the Picture settings. I also love that I don't have to see that stupid "Sponsored Content" home screen banner that plagued the A8F.

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There were few question regarding the use of the built in speakers as a "center speaker" using the speaker level input. It seems no one doing that based on the lack of answers. I went to BB to see if I could arrange such demo, they will get back to me on that. I've been using dedicated center channel speakers for decades, so I have no illusions about how this Tv might stack up against them, but this hobby is often about compromises, it might just works. Having said that I currently use a special stand that sit on top of my Panasonic plasma tv, which is made of glass and metal with thick bezels for today standards, so I wonder if it would work with this TV, which in turn would eliminate my need to use the built in speakers. BTW I used to had it the obvious front and below the screen arrangement on a floor stand, and I was never satisfied with especially for MCH music reproduction, even when I angled the speaker.

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The OLED panel is so thin that I doubt a center speaker could be clipped to the top of the screen. I also suspect that the OLED panel lacks the strength to support a center speaker without warping.
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There were few question regarding the use of the built in speakers as a "center speaker" using the speaker level input. It seems no one doing that based on the lack of answers. I went to BB to see if I could arrange such demo, they will get back to me on that. I've been using dedicated center channel speakers for decades, so I have no illusions about how this Tv might stack up against them, but this hobby is often about compromises, it might just works. Having said that I currently use a special stand that sit on top of my Panasonic plasma tv, which is made of glass and metal with thick bezels for today standards, so I wonder if it would work with this TV, which in turn would eliminate my need to use the built in speakers. BTW I used to had it the obvious front and below the screen arrangement on a floor stand, and I was never satisfied with especially for MCH music reproduction, even when I angled the speaker.

Anyway here is the stand on top my current TV.
This is what I do with my center speaker!!
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Yes that is an option for sure, however I rent, and I was asked not to drill into the wall....

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The OLED panel is so thin that I doubt a center speaker could be clipped to the top of the screen. I also suspect that the OLED panel lacks the strength to support a center speaker without warping.
Right, that was impression looking at those TV's too...

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eARC Set up & Passthrough.

So I got it all working in the end but it took a while. The Sony, or maybe the Denon is a bit finicky and will stop outputting DD+ for no apparent reason.

The main thing is Ultra High Speeds 18GB HDMI cables, even with ethernet built in are NOT sufficient, despite what you may read online.

Whats required is 54Gb 8k cables with ethernet. After installing those I then had to hard reset both the Sony and the Denon a few times. Eventually I reset both, plugged out both, started up the Sony, hard reset again, set up all the cable and output settings, then started the Denon and set its HDMI settings. After turning on Bravia Speakers option the eArc started to work.

It now outputs Multi Channel Audio (Assume PCM) to the the Denon from the Apple TV and built in Plex app. Atmos gets output from built in Netflix app. Built in Chromecast is outputting Dolby Digital Surround.

Youtube from both ATV & Built in Chromecast is successfully outputting 5 channel audio as per some test vids though its Dolby Digital Surround & not DD+ or PCM.

Also, Plex now has direct play for Plex Pass users which seems to have resolved the buffering and load issues. I think it's still faster on the ATV either with infuse pro or Plex.
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eARC Set up & Passthrough.

So I got it all working in the end but it took a while. The Sony, or maybe the Denon is a bit finicky and will stop outputting DD+ for no apparent reason.

The main thing is Ultra High Speeds 18GB HDMI cables, even with ethernet built in are NOT sufficient, despite what you may read online.

Whats required is 54Gb 8k cables with ethernet. After installing those I then had to hard reset both the Sony and the Denon a few times. Eventually I reset both, plugged out both, started up the Sony, hard reset again, set up all the cable and output settings, then started the Denon and set its HDMI settings. After turning on Bravia Speakers option the eArc started to work.

It now outputs Multi Channel Audio (Assume PCM) to the the Denon from the Apple TV and built in Plex app. Atmos gets output from built in Netflix app. Built in Chromecast is outputting Dolby Digital Surround.

Youtube from both ATV & Built in Chromecast is successfully outputting 5 channel audio as per some test vids though its Dolby Digital Surround & not DD+ or PCM.

Also, Plex now has direct play for Plex Pass users which seems to have resolved the buffering and load issues. I think it's still faster on the ATV either with infuse pro or Plex.
54Gb 8k cables???
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Hi, I thought I’d post this over here as well to get some opinions on some picture artifacts I’m seeing on my A9G. It’s only on select scenes but here is an example of what I’m talking about. Ore: This is with the settings for both Digital noise reduction & smooth gradation on “High”. Notice the sunglasses on the right side facing you anatomically, notice the noise artifacts in the center of her glasses. I’m hoping after a proper calibration this can be illuminated altogether. This is from the movie “Ultraviolet” in case you want to check it out for yourself. Let me what you think, thx.
I have this same problem with some scenes. On some scenes skin appears to be crawling because there's so much video noise going on. Haven't figured out how to eliminate it yet without diminishing the overall picture.

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Sorry, 48Gb

I got this one and ran it from the ATV to the TV and TV to Denon, just to be safe

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I have this same problem with some scenes. On some scenes skin appears to be crawling because there's so much video noise going on. Haven't figured out how to eliminate it yet without diminishing the overall picture.


There’s no way to completely eliminate noise if the source is noisy on any set.
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I got this one and ran it from the ATV to the TV and TV to Denon, just to be safe

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Are you saying that you needed that fast cable for eARC in particular?
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What is that piece the speaker is sitting on? It looks like an articulating support structure of some sort and if so, where did you obtain it?
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eARC Set up & Passthrough.

So I got it all working in the end but it took a while. The Sony, or maybe the Denon is a bit finicky and will stop outputting DD+ for no apparent reason.

The main thing is Ultra High Speeds 18GB HDMI cables, even with ethernet built in are NOT sufficient, despite what you may read online.

Whats required is 54Gb 8k cables with ethernet.
Well, going eARC from my A9G to ARC on my Oppo 205 works just fine with a Monoprice Certified Premium High Speed HDMI 4k 28AWG 18Gbps Cable. You absolutely don't need 8k cables for eARC to work.

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