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I hope the pricing will be lower in the next few months on Black Friday... I also wonder will the 8K pricing be much lower next year...
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The only thing I hear is motion and SD content.......With that said I would take an OLED over a plasma anyday.....
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Don't use one of those cleaning solutions you see advertised on Amazon,they are meant for LCD screens. Don't go on believing that what works for lcd's works for oled screens. I was warned by the Sony guy who came to my home to do the stand assembly. He said cleaning solutions for oled are not commercially available, the manufacturer authorised service centres have it, those you see available in the market are for lcd's and carry the risk of making a coating peel off on oled, if something wrong goes by using those solutions, Sony won't help you. To clean oled uae a dry folded microfibre cloth . If the stain is tough to remove then use two microfibre cloths, fold them and get one of them a little damp under water, rub the stain in a circular manner and diagonally with the damp one, use the dry microfibre cloth kept next to you immediately and wipe that surface clean, don't wait for it to dry. And when you use the damp microfibre cloth, you should not press into the screen with nails or fingertips , just move it around the surface.
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I dose this with cleaning solution, or dampen the fiber cloth with water (depending how dirty) and place the damp cloth area on the spot to loosen it (I do not wipe).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00REPR07K/ref=dp_prsubs_1

Once it is saturated I wipe the screen with this, drying it and buffing out any leftover haze. This has worked on an E6, A1E, A8F and A9G (bulldog slobber and finger prints).

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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The only thing I hear is motion and SD content.......With that said I would take an OLED over a plasma anyday.....
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I also think 1080p movies have never looked better to me than they do on the Sony.
I fully agree. 1080p BluRay discs look incredible. So does regular HD non-4k streaming from Netflix (not sure whether they are 1080i or 1080p - when I hit the Display button, it just shows 1080 without specifying i or p). But what amazes me is how good regular HD (720p/1080i) broadcasts look on Fios! Given all the concerns people have posted about TV broadcasts on OLEDs in general, IMO they look great to my eyes. Either Fios does less compression than other cable companies, or the A9G is just that great at upscaling, at least for HD material. DVDs (480i) have been more hit and miss. I recently watched an old DVD (Out of Africa), and it looked pretty mediocre. But I also watched a newer DVD (The Shoplifters), and it look very good. I guess the newer DVDs are just mastered better nowadays, even though they are still 480i. Overall, I couldn't be happier with this display, and DV looks amazing to me, despite some of the complaints (although my display was professionally calibrated, and some of the calibrators have stated that DV looks similar as other OLEDs after calibration).
Thank you for this post. It is very encouraging !
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Thank you for this post. It is very encouraging !
I can second his post, and ive got the 77" - even with that size broadcast 1080i 720p looks good, sometimes i cant differentiate between 1080p and 4k movies tbh
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I dose this with cleaning solution, or dampen the fiber cloth with water (depending how dirty) and place the damp cloth area on the spot to loosen it (I do not wipe).

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00REPR07K/ref=dp_prsubs_1

Once it is saturated I wipe the screen with this, drying it and buffing out any leftover haze. This has worked on an E6, A1E, A8F and A9G (bulldog slobber and finger prints).

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Why do you need a cleaning solution? Isn't a damp microfiber cloth enough?

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Why do you need a cleaning solution? Isn't a damp microfiber cloth enough?
With dog slobber? No.
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Im trying to understand why CEC sometimes work and sometimes doesnt, with my appletv.
Sometimes i can control it with tv-remote, sometimes i cant...
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As Columbo would say...just one more thing.

Has anyone tried or is using the center channel input for their center channel and if so, how does it sound and how well does it blend in with the main speakers?
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Just wondering what you guys are “feeding” your A9G beast ! My choices in the near future are (a) Charter cable, (b)DirecTV,
(C) Direct Now (streaming) (OTA realistically not an option); (d) maybe You Tube. Could you share what service(s) you have coupled with your SONY A9G and what looked the BEST with 1080i/broadcast? I’m not rich, but I just want to watch football this fall in THEE BEST picture quality and don’t care about “great $$$ deals.” Best picture quality with that A9G for programming is my goal (as I suspect it is for most on here).
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Just wondering what you guys are “feeding” your A9G beast ! My choices in the near future are (a) Charter cable, (b)DirecTV,
(C) Direct Now (streaming) (OTA realistically not an option); (d) maybe You Tube. Could you share what service(s) you have coupled with your SONY A9G and what looked the BEST with 1080i/broadcast? I’m not rich, but I just want to watch football this fall in THEE BEST picture quality and don’t care about “great $$$ deals.” Best picture quality with that A9G for programming is my goal (as I suspect it is for most on here).
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I use Verizon Fios for TV broadcasts, and it looks fantastic (pretty close to 1080p). Also the internal Netflix app for streaming, and an Oppo 205 for movies/discs.
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Just wondering what you guys are “feeding” your A9G beast ! My choices in the near future are (a) Charter cable, (b)DirecTV,
(C) Direct Now (streaming) (OTA realistically not an option); (d) maybe You Tube. Could you share what service(s) you have coupled with your SONY A9G and what looked the BEST with 1080i/broadcast? I’m not rich, but I just want to watch football this fall in THEE BEST picture quality and don’t care about “great $$$ deals.” Best picture quality with that A9G for programming is my goal (as I suspect it is for most on here).
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Youtube TV has the best picture quality.
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Just wondering what you guys are “feeding” your A9G beast ! My choices in the near future are (a) Charter cable, (b)DirecTV,
(C) Direct Now (streaming) (OTA realistically not an option); (d) maybe You Tube. Could you share what service(s) you have coupled with your SONY A9G and what looked the BEST with
1080i/broadcast? I’️m not rich, but I just want to watch football this fall in THEE BEST picture quality and don’️t care about “great $$$ deals.” Best picture quality with that A9G for programming is my goal (as I suspect it is for most on here).
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Youtube TV has the best picture quality.
Thanks for your input, Micolash. Just as a follow up, I have heard positive comments from other OLED owners re You Tube usage. So is You Tube in some manner able to utilize LESS “compression” in programming process ? (thus their picture quality is looking superior on your A9G )
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As Columbo would say...just one more thing.

Has anyone tried or is using the center channel input for their center channel and if so, how does it sound and how well does it blend in with the main speakers?
Im using it as center speaker, ive only had left and right speaker for the past years, so i cant compare it to other center speakers, but - i love it

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Just wondering what you guys are “feeding” your A9G beast ! My choices in the near future are (a) Charter cable, (b)DirecTV,
(C) Direct Now (streaming) (OTA realistically not an option); (d) maybe You Tube. Could you share what service(s) you have coupled with your SONY A9G and what looked the BEST with 1080i/broadcast? I’m not rich, but I just want to watch football this fall in THEE BEST picture quality and don’t care about “great $$$ deals.” Best picture quality with that A9G for programming is my goal (as I suspect it is for most on here).
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Thanks for your input, Micolash. Just as a follow up, I have heard positive comments from other OLED owners re You Tube usage. So is You Tube in some manner able to utilize LESS “compression” in programming process ? (thus their picture quality is looking superior on your A9G )
Yes. Traditional cable compresses the crap out of everything in order to provide a million channels. YTTV doesn't suffer from this. I originally had FIOS btw, so that's what I compare it to.

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I didnt realize they had a 9 month DVR, I may have to check this out...

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Yes. Traditional cable compresses the crap out of everything in order to provide a million channels. YTTV doesn't suffer from this. I originally had FIOS btw, so that's what I compare it to.
Once NBA season starts again, I'm thinking of re-upping my PS Vue subscription for ESPN/TNT/Local Channels etc.

How is PS Vue's quality compared to YTTV?

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For those of you that use DV, say I want to try it on Vudu HD or Apple Movies, with an ATV. The way I understand it is you have a Dark and Bright mode when in DV mode, and Bright is the better choice? I assume since mine is calibrated both modes carryover from the calibration? @jrref

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Vue is just as good as YTTV in terms of PQ and has the best collection of sports networks.
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For those of you that use DV, say I want to try it on Vudu HD or Apple Movies, with an ATV. The way I understand it is you have a Dark and Bright mode when in DV mode, and Bright is the better choice? I assume since mine is calibrated both modes carryover from the calibration? @jrref
Not sure if it's the same but with my ATV 4K and Z9D, I mostly watch DV content from iTunes Movies and Netflix as most new Netflix shows are Atmos + DV. To get good results and brightness quasi equal to HDR, I have DV settings set with Contrast at 95, Brightness at Max and Gamma +2. That give me same results as HDR. In fact, I like DV better than HDR10 as it looks more natural on flesh tones. My Z9D only has one DV setting.

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Thanks for your input, Micolash. Just as a follow up, I have heard positive comments from other OLED owners re You Tube usage. So is You Tube in some manner able to utilize LESS “compression” in programming process ? (thus their picture quality is looking superior on your A9G )
Yes. Traditional cable compresses the crap out of everything in order to provide a million channels. YTTV doesn't suffer from this. I originally had FIOS btw, so that's what I compare it to.
That is interesting and significant, because I understand that as “cable” goes, the FIOS is probably thee most “advanced” CABLE signal...and so you are saying that with your Sony A9G you find YTTV “cleaner” than FIOS then, right? Cool, ‘cause as we know...”junk in, junk out!”
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Just wondering what you guys are “feeding” your A9G beast ! My choices in the near future are (a) Charter cable, (b)DirecTV,
(C) Direct Now (streaming) (OTA realistically not an option); (d) maybe You Tube. Could you share what service(s) you have coupled with your SONY A9G and what looked the BEST with 1080i/broadcast? I’m not rich, but I just want to watch football this fall in THEE BEST picture quality and don’t care about “great $$$ deals.” Best picture quality with that A9G for programming is my goal (as I suspect it is for most on here).
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Charter cable looked absolutely horrendous when I temporarily had a C8. DirecTv would be your best option although certainly not the cheapest. YTTV looked OK, most definitely better then Charter(Spectrum). Playstation Vue looked super soft to me.

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Just wondering what you guys are “feeding” your A9G beast ! My choices in the near future are (a) Charter cable, (b)DirecTV,
(C) Direct Now (streaming) (OTA realistically not an option); (d) maybe You Tube. Could you share what service(s) you have coupled with your SONY A9G and what looked the BEST with 1080i/broadcast? I’️m not rich, but I just want to watch football this fall in THEE BEST picture quality and don’️t care about “great $$$ deals.” Best picture quality with that A9G for programming is my goal (as I suspect it is for most on here).
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Charter cable looked absolutely horrendous when I temporarily had a C8. DirecTv would be your best option although certainly not the cheapest. YTTV looked OK, most definitely better then Charter(Spectrum). Playstation Vue looked super soft to me.
Thanks ! Yea, I have to kick Charter “to the curb” if I wanted 1080i upconversion to look tolerable I think.
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As Columbo would say...just one more thing.

Has anyone tried or is using the center channel input for their center channel and if so, how does it sound and how well does it blend in with the main speakers?

I did and it seemed to do quite well especially with the dialogue etc. I did not stay to watch the program, just set it up. I have an older Yamaha RXV 3300 and I know it needs some setup work, but by todays standards it's pretty obsolete. I have the center channel speaker gained up significantly, possibly maxed.
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For those of you that use DV, say I want to try it on Vudu HD or Apple Movies, with an ATV. The way I understand it is you have a Dark and Bright mode when in DV mode, and Bright is the better choice? I assume since mine is calibrated both modes carryover from the calibration? @jrref
No, DV Dark is the most accurate (as calibrated by jrref). Only switch to DV Bright if you find DV Dark too dark for your tastes. Yes, the calibration carries over to DV.
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No, DV Dark is the most accurate (as calibrated by jrref). Only switch to DV Bright if you find DV Dark too dark for your tastes. Yes, the calibration carries over to DV.
Do you happen to know what changes occur behind the scene in DV Bright vs DV Dark? Reason I ask is if I change all the settings to be identical to each other, there's still a slight difference in brightness.

Same thing with Custom vs Cinema. They are close to each other even after making them identical.

Just curious what is being altered in terms of "custom being more accurate" and "DV dark being more accurate".

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Do you happen to know what changes occur behind the scene in DV Bright vs DV Dark? Reason I ask is if I change all the settings to be identical to each other, there's still a slight difference in brightness.

Same thing with Custom vs Cinema. They are close to each other even after making them identical.

Just curious what is being altered in terms of "custom being more accurate" and "DV dark being more accurate".
I was talking about a calibrated display. Which mode is more accurate depends on which the calibrator makes more accurate. For my A9G calibrated by jrref, the calibrated settings I use are "Custom Pro 1" (for viewing in a dark room) and "Dolby Vision Dark" (again, for viewing in a dark room). He set it up for me to use "Custom" for a mid-dark room, and "Custom Pro 2" and "Dolby Vision Bright" for a bright room. Other calibrators may set the modes up differently. And I doubt your settings are identical (they would look the same if they were). The calibrators are not just adjusting Brightness and Contrast, but also a large list of other settings, including Gamma, Black level, Color, Temperature, White point, 20-point gray scale, etc, etc. If you don't know what you are doing or don't have the right equipment to properly calibrate the display yourself, I would not be making so many changes - it's pretty accurate out-of-the box, and you risk making things worse.
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