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I am seriously considering getting the A9G even though I have only had the Sony Z9D for only a couple of years and I am very happy with it. I would keep it and put it in the master bedroom to replace a Pioneer plasma that is on it's last leg. I have always wanted to get an Oled TV because of the terrific blacks but am a little bit worried though about the brightness factor as the Z9D is an extremely bright TV. It will be going in my family room which is not particularly a bright room but not a dark room either. I know from my research that this TV won the 2019 TV shootout but I have seen some You Tube videos that say the LG C9 is brighter and the HDR is also brighter.
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Sorry I sent this by accident before I was finished. I was wondering if my concerns about the brightness factor is a legitimate concern since i currently have the Z9D?
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I am seriously considering getting the A9G even though I have only had the Sony Z9D for only a couple of years and I am very happy with it. I would keep it and put it in the master bedroom to replace a Pioneer plasma that is on it's last leg. I have always wanted to get an Oled TV because of the terrific blacks but am a little bit worried though about the brightness factor as the Z9D is an extremely bright TV. It will be going in my family room which is not particularly a bright room but not a dark room either. I know from my research that this TV won the 2019 TV shootout but I have seen some You Tube videos that say the LG C9 is brighter and the HDR is also brighter.
I came from Z9D, and had same concern. Rest assured it's plenty bright enough. The LG is marginally brighter but in real world not noticeable.
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Thanks pbz. Did you get the 77" or the 65"? My wife thinks I'm crazy for wanting to get a new TV because like me she thinks the Z9D is a great TV also not thrilled about putting a 75" TV in our bedroom. I have always liked the way OLED TV's look at BB's showroom. I have always appreciated great blacks on a TV, probably because of having a Pioneer plasma for 9 years. The Z9D came pretty close.
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Likely why all the complaints about burn-in, banding, DSE, uniformity and panel lottery seem to be coming from the LG crowd....and they also say Sony is overpriced
Hey, Sony makes a better OLED in my book, whether its worth the price or not is in the eye of the beholder....

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Thanks pbz. Did you get the 77" or the 65"? My wife thinks I'm crazy for wanting to get a new TV because like me she thinks the Z9D is a great TV also not thrilled about putting a 75" TV in our bedroom. I have always liked the way OLED TV's look at BB's showroom. I have always appreciated great blacks on a TV, probably because of having a Pioneer plasma for 9 years. The Z9D came pretty close.
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Thanks pbz. Did you get the 77" or the 65"? My wife thinks I'm crazy for wanting to get a new TV because like me she thinks the Z9D is a great TV also not thrilled about putting a 75" TV in our bedroom. I have always liked the way OLED TV's look at BB's showroom. I have always appreciated great blacks on a TV, probably because of having a Pioneer plasma for 9 years. The Z9D came pretty close.
I got the 77" but it's in my living room (my Z9D was 65"). Of course my wife thinks I'm crazy too but she's understandable and knows it's my hobby/passion and we are both responsible with our money and disposable income so she's all good.

If you can afford the 77", I would say go for that one because it will give you a better cinematic experience

But regarding the brightness again, I always say that it wasn't that long ago that LCD's in our living rooms barely hit 150 nits and nobody complained. Now all of a sudden we are all worried about 575 nits not being enough

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Sorry I sent this by accident before I was finished. I was wondering if my concerns about the brightness factor is a legitimate concern since i currently have the Z9D?
I have a 65Z9D in my bedroom and now a 77A9G in my living room. I love my 65Z9D and I'm planning on keeping it in my bedroom until it dies. But the 77A9G wins hands down on every aspect. Better and more saturated colors, better HDR and Dolby Vision presentation and bright enough to keep some lights ON while watching regular TV. Sometimes I start watching a movie on the 77A9G then switch to the 65Z9D but at then I finish the movie on the 77A9G. My conclusion is: for regular TV, news and sports before going to sleep, I use the 65Z9D. For HDR and Dolby Vision movies/shows and during the day TV watching the 77A9G is the way to go.

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Hey, Sony makes a better OLED in my book, whether its worth the price or not is in the eye of the beholder....

If you buy the 65" you will regret that move 100%. You only live once, enjoy life the way you see fit
I totally agree, with what life I have left I want to enjoy is much as possible.

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I got the 77" but it's in my living room (my Z9D was 65"). Of course my wife thinks I'm crazy too but she's understandable and knows it's my hobby/passion and we are both responsible with our money and disposable income so she's all good.

If you can afford the 77", I would say go for that one because it will give you a better cinematic experience

But regarding the brightness again, I always say that it wasn't that long ago that LCD's in our living rooms barely hit 150 nits and nobody complained. Now all of a sudden we are all worried about 575 nits not being enough
Good point, my 9 to 10 year or possibly older old Pioneer plasma didn't have the nits of the A9G and it used to be in my family room and I never complained about the brightness level.
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Question- On the A9G is E-arc a separate function in the settings or is it tied to Bravia Sync? In other words, do you have to have bravia sync on to get ARC (E)?
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Was nice to wake up to a 1500 price drop on amazon Canada this morning for the 77 inch model. Looks like I’ll be making a call this morning.
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Yes. You have to have Bravia Sync "on" and eARC "auto" in the A9G. You may also have to have CEC "on" in your AVR or other device accepting the eARC/ARC. At least those are the settings I need for ARC to work from my A9G to my Oppo 205.
Thanks- I figured it was this way as it has been on all the Sonys I have owned in the past. Real pain in the butt as I do not want to use Bravia Sync (CEC) which causes a lot of headaches..
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Thanks- I figured it was this way as it has been on all the Sonys I have owned in the past. Real pain in the butt as I do not want to use Bravia Sync (CEC) which causes a lot of headaches..
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I am not so sure about that. I had problems with Bravia sync on(set randomly turning off). Problem was solved by turning Bravia sync off. eARC still works between A9G and Mac MX122. Unless I am missing something about eARC.

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I am pretty sure I have seen multiple reports for both A9F and A9G that Sony implemented eARC correctly and it does not require CEC/braviasync on to work. If you want volume control and such, of course that requires braviasync on, but eARC itself should not.

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I am pretty sure I have seen multiple reports for both A9F and A9G that Sony implemented eARC correctly and it does not require CEC/braviasync on to work. If you want volume control and such, of course that requires braviasync on, but eARC itself should not.
That would be a plus for sure. I don't need to control volume as I use an AVR that I feed everything through. It would be just for builtin apps (which I probably won't use ). Would be nice just to be able to do it w/o Bravia Sync..
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I believe CEC is not needed for eARC, but is needed for ARC (which is what I need to use - my Oppo has ARC, not eARC).

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After tvOS13 update on my ATV 4K, Dolby Vision is not dim anymore. It looks the same as HDR10 on my 77A9G.


My Apple TV is still dim with dolby vision after the TvOS update. Dolby vision with my built in apps and other external players are fine though.
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My Apple TV is still dim with dolby vision after the TvOS update. Dolby vision with my built in apps and other external players are fine though.
My ATV (TVOS13) the Dolby Vision and the internal Netflix app running Dolby Vision look the same. I’m running DV Dark as the DV Bright profile is too bright for me.

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My ATV (TVOS13) the Dolby Vision and the internal Netflix app running Dolby Vision look the same. I’m running DV Dark as the DV Bright profile is too bright for me.


I heard this from a couple of people on the threads. That Apple TV dolby vision is just as bright as the built in apps. I toggled between Netflix ok Apple TV and on the built in app and the difference is massive. Even dv dark on the built in apps is much much cheaper brighter than dv bright on Apple TV. Are you on the newest a9g firmware? I’m wondering if it’s the new firmware that affects the dv on Apple TV with the a9g. I did not test Apple TV with previous a9g firmwares.
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I heard this from a couple of people on the threads. That Apple TV dolby vision is just as bright as the built in apps. I toggled between Netflix ok Apple TV and on the built in app and the difference is massive. Even dv dark on the built in apps is much much cheaper brighter than dv bright on Apple TV. Are you on the newest a9g firmware? I’m wondering if it’s the new firmware that affects the dv on Apple TV with the a9g. I did not test Apple TV with previous a9g firmwares.
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Does anyone have any suggestions as to what can be causing my 1-2 second audio dropouts via ARC? I only use my TV for discs and Netflix/Amazon streaming. But every time I watch Netflix via ARC with the built-in app, I get audio dropouts connected to my Yamaha 1050.

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Hey all,

I am going to be upgrading my TV in the near future and have been going between the Z9F and the A9G. I currently have a XBR940C and its been a wonderful TV honestly. Part of the reason I want to get a new tv is for two reasons: one is just due to how much the thing weighs which leaves stand options very limited (125 lbs the damn thing weighs) and all of the new improvements with HDR, color banding improvements that Sony tv's have, and new ports etc.

Mainly I use my TV for gaming. Obviously a huge concern I have with OLED is burn in. The other issue Id be concerned about is motion. My tv currently handles motion great (I turn off all the motion smoothing garbage), so I would want to make sure its good on either of these tvs. Any idea on which would be the better get? Thank you
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I heard last Spring that 2020 might be a major improvement change in Sony really, all OLED panels). Any foreseeable accuracy to that ? I have nothing against 2019 technology and products...I am most likely staying on the HD/1080p sidelines because they are so “broad.” Excited about this recent ESPN 4K deal with Samsung, but still just not good enough upconversion and not enough 4K programming for the nice 4K panels currently waiting for more to put on them !, e.g. sports presentations. I want more than movies and occasional series.
So any scoop on 2020 for SONY OLED ?
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Mainly I use my TV for gaming. Obviously a huge concern I have with OLED is burn in. The other issue Id be concerned about is motion. My tv currently handles motion great (I turn off all the motion smoothing garbage), so I would want to make sure its good on either of these tvs. Any idea on which would be the better get? Thank you

I would probably get a Z9F if I mainly used the TV mainly for gaming because of its significantly higher brightness and lack of burn-in risk, though the A9G is very good for gaming as well. Motion is also very good on the A9G. The Z9F will suffer compared to the A9G in dark HDR scenes with bright highlights, as blooming will rear its ugly head.
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I heard last Spring that 2020 might be a major improvement change in Sony really, all OLED panels). Any foreseeable accuracy to that ? I have nothing against 2019 technology and products...I am most likely staying on the HD/1080p sidelines because they are so “broad.” Excited about this recent ESPN 4K deal with Samsung, but still just not good enough upconversion and not enough 4K programming for the nice 4K panels currently waiting for more to put on them !, e.g. sports presentations. I want more than movies and occasional series.
So any scoop on 2020 for SONY OLED ?
Since they are using panels from LG i wonder what Sony can do that will distance them from LG. And then there are rumors of Vizio and other brands jumping into OLED next year.

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I heard last Spring that 2020 might be a major improvement change in Sony really, all OLED panels). Any foreseeable accuracy to that ? I have nothing against 2019 technology and products...I am most likely staying on the HD/1080p sidelines because they are so “broad.â€Â Excited about this recent ESPN 4K deal with Samsung, but still just not good enough upconversion and not enough 4K programming for the nice 4K panels currently waiting for more to put on them !, e.g. sports presentations. I want more than movies and occasional series.
So any scoop on 2020 for SONY OLED ?
Since they are using panels from LG i wonder what Sony can do that will distance them from LG. And then there are rumors of Vizio and other brands jumping into OLED next year.
Not to mention SAMSUNG jumping in as well (2021)
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Not to mention SAMSUNG jumping in as well (2021)
I wish Panasonic would come back into US market just for OLEDs. I had a bad experience with Samsung so not sure I would go back. LG and Sony to me are the top 2. Not sure I would do a Vizio again after 3 of the P65 with flashing white line that I finally sent back and went Sony X900E and the picture improvement was noticeable. I just wish Sony would catch up with features like all 4 full bandwidth HDMI like LG.

While minor and stupid I like that LG flashes the HDR mode on the screen when starting a HDR video to confirm it is HDR and whether HDR10 or DV. Sony I have to hit a few clicks to confirm. Weird but there has been content in the Sony I just question if it is HDR or not at times and click to confirm.

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I wish Panasonic would come back into US market just for OLEDs. I had a bad experience with Samsung so not sure I would go back. LG and Sony to me are the top 2. Not sure I would do a Vizio again after 3 of the P65 with flashing white line that I finally sent back and went Sony X900E and the picture improvement was noticeable. I just wish Sony would catch up with features like all 4 full bandwidth HDMI like LG.

While minor and stupid I like that LG flashes the HDR mode on the screen when starting a HDR video to confirm it is HDR and whether HDR10 or DV. Sony I have to hit a few clicks to confirm. Weird but there has been content in the Sony I just question if it is HDR or not at times and click to confirm.
I don't think it's minor at all (the lack of HDR/DV mode engage message). Especially because at least with my a9g, it's glitchy and doesn't always engage HDR mode. I have had multiple occasions where HDR mode did not engage when I played a disk and I had to toggle inputs back and forth on my Denon to get it to engage. I never had this problem with the same receiver and my LG. However, if I did, I would know without having to hit a few buttons on my remote.

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I don't think it's minor at all (the lack of HDR/DV mode engage message). Especially because at least with my a9g, it's glitchy and doesn't always engage HDR mode. I have had multiple occasions where HDR mode did not engage when I played a disk and I had to toggle inputs back and forth on my Denon to get it to engage. I never had this problem with the same receiver and my LG. However, if I did, I would know without having to hit a few buttons on my remote.
Same here. It's happened several times for me on both the Z9D and A9G. I'm now in a habit of always checking before every movie, which can be annoying when there's other people watching and wondering "wtf are you doing?".

The first time it happened, the picture was so washed out but I didn't know...and I remember telling people "how crappy that movie looks", until I realized it didn't engage HDR so when I revisited it looked amazing
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Same here. It's happened several times for me on both the Z9D and A9G. I'm now in a habit of always checking before every movie, which can be annoying when there's other people watching and wondering "wtf are you doing?".

The first time it happened, the picture was so washed out but I didn't know...and I remember telling people "how crappy that movie looks", until I realized it didn't engage HDR so when I revisited it looked amazing
It happens to me frequently with the Z9D when watching Netflix shows with my ATV 4K and Dolby Vision. If you let Netflix go from episode to episode automatically, sometimes DV does not engage. The fix is to restart the episode. Also, remember when watching Dolby Vision content, if you press INFO on the A9G, you will see Dolby Vision displayed on the bottom of the screen next to the resolution. For HDR you have to go to pictures settings to see the HDR logo. In any case, pressing SETTINGS on the remote and checking for Brightness value is the only thing you need to do to know if HDR is working or not. If you see Brightness at MAX, then HDR is working. If you see Brightness at 35 (which is my value for SDR) then you are on SDR.
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