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What setting is the best for peak luminance? I have it at medium now and brightness at 35. Is there any benefit to going to high then dropping brightness? I thought I read it controls how much the tv uses the white sub pixel. So maybe leaving it to medium will give better colour?
Medium for SDR, High for HDR.

For Brightness, it's whatever you want depending on your environment. In the dark, I use 12 (I don't have means to measure, but the default Netflix Calibrated mode uses 12 so that's why).
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77A9G literally installed and put up slides lol coming from a a a9f 65 inch ..5/10/20 percent slides..I don’t see any bad bands in dark content and the picture is amazing my 65 panel was better if you check my history but I just came to realize that whatever dark content you watch will be for a short period anyway it doesn’t iinterfere with my normal everyday usage ..should get better once I get 100 hours on it
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77A9G literally installed and put up slides lol coming from a a a9f 65 inch ..5/10/20 percent slides..I don’t see any bad bands in dark content and the picture is amazing my 65 panel was better if you check my history but I just came to realize that whatever dark content you watch will be for a short period anyway it doesn’t iinterfere with my normal everyday usage ..should get better once I get 100 hours on it
That looks pretty good so far, does it have any tinting? It looks a little more pink in areas but it could just be the camera.
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77A9G literally installed and put up slides lol coming from a a a9f 65 inch ..5/10/20 percent slides..I don’t see any bad bands in dark content and the picture is amazing my 65 panel was better if you check my history but I just came to realize that whatever dark content you watch will be for a short period anyway it doesn’t iinterfere with my normal everyday usage ..should get better once I get 100 hours on it
Use it today for about 5 hours and check those slides tomorrow morning. You will be amazed on how good that panel gets after the first auto compensation cycle.

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An just the picture ..yours looks good also ..and I have the same band on amazon don’t worry lol
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Well I finally broke down and ordered the A9G 77" and it will be delivered next Tuesday. First I had been debating between the A9G and the LG C9 and than It was whether to get the 77" for the family room or the or the 65" for the bedroom. But once you go big it's hard to go smaller. I can't say enough good things about the Z9D which is now going to be relegated to our bedroom. I know a 75" TV is a bit big for the bedroom but fortunately its a pretty big room and I will actually be viewing it from farther away that when I will be watching the A9G in the family room.
I’m also coming from a 75” Z9D. Like you, I can’t say enough great things about the Z9D, but based on our experience with a 65” Sony A9F in a vacation home, we decided to replace our Z9D at our main home with a 77” A9G. As good as the Z9D is, the A9G is better; especially with movies which makes up most of our viewing.
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I thought that mine has tinting on white but it doesn’t. It has just a weird color shift because the tinting that I thought was on the right side moves depending on where I’m sitting. Very strange, But not noticeable on anything other than all white screen when you focus in on it, so it’s one of those things that I can live with.

The dark band I have on the left side sometimes rears its ugly head during movies mastered above black or occasional dark gray scenes. I only have 300 hours, But I’m not really expecting any changes over time. It is what it is. Still leagues above any LG or prior Sony OLEDS I tried out over the years.

On a side not: My old iPhone X had bad 5% uniformity. My new iPhone 11 Pro? Flawless.


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Has anyone got this TV installed flush to the wall with the no gap wall mount? If so, do you have any pictures showing the final gap and how it looks?

I'm thinking of getting this TV but I really want to see the gap between the TV and the wall from the side. The reason I ask is that this will be mounted on a room divider / fireplace so the side profile will be highly visible.

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Use it today for about 5 hours and check those slides tomorrow morning. You will be amazed on how good that panel gets after the first auto compensation cycle.

How will i know when it has run? Dont think i can see number or viewed hours without developeroptions yes?

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I run the Apple TV directly to HDMI 2 port and enhancements are turned on.
Let me put it this way. I have the Dolby Vision turned on for all content type on Apple TV. When I play SDR Apple will map it to Dolby Vision and the brightness is ok (same as if I had option to Match Content Type set to On). So in this case, whatever Sony receives is displayed ok. However, if the content itself is Dolby Vision then there is no mapping and Sony darkens it a lot. If one tries to scroll through the video that small window actually shows correct brightness, but full screen is dim. None of the Apple TV users report this with other brands so I would say it is up to Sony, not Apple TV.
My current workaround is that I use Dolby Vision Bright for DV content and Dolby Vision Dark for DV content. Yet, Sony should fix this. I will take few screenshots when I get back home.
I thought it was just me. Get exactly same results with Sony AF9 and AppleTV4k. I have 2 x AppleTV4k’s and tried both with same results.

So given up on Netflix DV on AppleTV4k via Sony AF9. i use internal Android AF9 for Netflix instead.

On my LG OLED no such issues with Netflix DV via AppleTV4k.
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I’m also coming from a 75” Z9D. Like you, I can’t say enough great things about the Z9D, but based on our experience with a 65” Sony A9F in a vacation home, we decided to replace our Z9D at our main home with a 77” A9G. As good as the Z9D is, the A9G is better; especially with movies which makes up most of our viewing.
Thanks Bob for your positive input. I have always wanted to get an OLED but I wound up getting the Z9D because the price at the time was hard to pass up compared to what the 77" OLED was selling for. Now the prices have come down considerably even on Sony's latest A9G. My main concern is the family room where this TV is going is not a dark room, but not overly bright either. Since I have 45 days to decide and I can always exchange it for the 65" for the bedroom to replace the 60" Pioneer 151FD Elite plasma that has to be at least 12 years old. My wife who is an interior designer is not thrilled about putting the 75" Z9D in our bedroom. As I explained to her it actually it not any bigger than the Pioneer plasma that's there now as that model had the speakers on the side, although the 65" would be more appropriate for that space.
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I heard this from a couple of people on the threads. That Apple TV dolby vision is just as bright as the built in apps. I toggled between Netflix ok Apple TV and on the built in app and the difference is massive. Even dv dark on the built in apps is much much cheaper brighter than dv bright on Apple TV. Are you on the newest a9g firmware? I’m wondering if it’s the new firmware that affects the dv on Apple TV with the a9g. I did not test Apple TV with previous a9g firmwares.
It is almost unwatchable on AppleTV4k Netflix DV content. So dark, I prefer regular SDR. i have AF9.

On internal Android Netflix DV it looks good. Much brighter.

I also think that DV on iTunes Movies is much darker than HDR10 on iTunes.

None of these brightness issues happen with my other AppleTV4k connected to LG OLED.
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I have noticed the same things you have noticed comparing your pioneer plasma to the OLED. The depth and gradation of grey tones will never be matched on an oled. Also, network broadcasts and motion in most sports as well. I hate watching golf on the oled and watching the golf ball on the putting green studder across the green. Never looked like that on My plasamas and I still have 2. I will not be curbing them any time soon. still not sure if I will keep the OLED. I was watching Meet Joe Black yesterday and the blacks were atrociously crushed. Never saw that on my Pioneer Kuro ever. With the OLED, I also find myself making adjustments for everything I watch, its that touchy.
I am experiencing the same. I had the 9G Kuro for over 10 years and it was consistent with picture quality for all sources.It had been ISF calibrated and I never felt the need to change any picture settings. With the A9G, I've yet to get as good a picture with the settings available. The source is mostly Directv and the picture is no where as good as the Kuro. I sold the Kuro and now regret it.
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I am experiencing the same. I had the 9G Kuro for over 10 years and it was consistent with picture quality for all sources.It had been ISF calibrated and I never felt the need to change any picture settings. With the A9G, I've yet to get as good a picture with the settings available. The source is mostly Directv and the picture is no where as good as the Kuro. I sold the Kuro and now regret it.

Im not saying your wrong, its your opinion but.
Having a TV for 10years and changing is a long getting-used-to period, im in the same seat.


I have 77" and i find broadcast TV really good (except some worthless channels), the upscaling is amazing. Did you try reality creation and auto/medium on the digital noise settings


edit: no i didnt have a kuro but i had Samsung 64" F8500 which is considered amazing also, and it was but not like AG9 tbh

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Im not saying your wrong, its your opinion but.
Having a TV for 10years and changing is a long getting-used-to period, im in the same seat.


I have 77" and i find broadcast TV really good (except some worthless channels), the upscaling is amazing. Did you try reality creation and auto/medium on the digital noise settings


edit: no i didnt have a kuro but i had Samsung 64" F8500 which is considered amazing also, and it was but not like AG9 tbh

I still have a Panasonic GT50 hooked up in the house, and the A9G is superior in most respects. The A9G's upscaling makes broadcast TV appear roughly as good as on the GT50 and though motion is slightly inferior, it is still very good. The one weakness of the OLED is near-black, and I would rate the GT50 and even my Sony X930E (LCD) superior in near-black uniformity.
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Im not saying your wrong, its your opinion but.
Having a TV for 10years and changing is a long getting-used-to period, im in the same seat.


I have 77" and i find broadcast TV really good (except some worthless channels), the upscaling is amazing. Did you try reality creation and auto/medium on the digital noise settings


edit: no i didnt have a kuro but i had Samsung 64" F8500 which is considered amazing also, and it was but not like AG9 tbh
Thanks for your suggestions. Will give them a try.

What I have a hard time getting used to is the changes in brightness levels between channels. With the Kuro, black levels were consistent, along with colors and flesh tones between channels and multiple input sources. Not so right now with the A9G. It is really frustrating. Plus,the menu system is a bit tedious.

What is the consensus as to break in time?



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Has anyone got this TV installed flush to the wall with the no gap wall mount? If so, do you have any pictures showing the final gap and how it looks?

I'm thinking of getting this TV but I really want to see the gap between the TV and the wall from the side. The reason I ask is that this will be mounted on a room divider / fireplace so the side profile will be highly visible.

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I am experiencing the same. I had the 9G Kuro for over 10 years and it was consistent with picture quality for all sources.It had been ISF calibrated and I never felt the need to change any picture settings. With the A9G, I've yet to get as good a picture with the settings available. The source is mostly Directv and the picture is no where as good as the Kuro. I sold the Kuro and now regret it.
The A9G is hands down a superior TV, the problem is Direct TV. You’re feeding the A9G a crap source, the Kuro’s limitations will camouflage that source better than the A9G. It’s kind of like watching an old sci-fi flick with crap effects; an old CRT set would mask the cheap effects, but when HD sets came along the wrinkles began to show. If you want to put the Kuro to shame, try a BD or UHD. Hell, even most streaming will do the job. Yes, Plasma does near black and motion a bit better than an OLED, and that’s about it. Once you get used to the A9G, feed it the right sources, and dial in your settings, the improvement will be self evident. My Samsung Plasma is now gathering dust, and for good reason.
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The A9G is hands down a superior TV, the problem is Direct TV. You’re feeding the A9G a crap source, the Kuro’s limitations will camouflage that source better than the A9G. It’s kind of like watching an old sci-fi flick with crap effects; an old CRT set would mask the cheap effects, but when HD sets came along the wrinkles began to show. If you want to put the Kuro to shame, try a BD or UHD. Hell, even most streaming will do the job. Yes, Plasma does near black and motion a bit better than an OLED, and that’s about it. Once you get used to the A9G, feed it the right sources, and dial in your settings, the improvement will be self evident. My Samsung Plasma is now gathering dust, and for good reason.
Exactly.

There's a reason nobody goes back.

For crappy signals, I do crank up the Clarity settings. I use Manual/65, Sharpness at 60, and High for the two noise reduction and smooth grading. Sometimes it's a little on the blurry side, so bumping them down to medium helps...it's a tradeoff between blurry vs noise/compression.

Bottom line, it's the superior TV showing the warts more of the crapp signal.
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Thanks Bob for your positive input. I have always wanted to get an OLED but I wound up getting the Z9D because the price at the time was hard to pass up compared to what the 77" OLED was selling for. Now the prices have come down considerably even on Sony's latest A9G. My main concern is the family room where this TV is going is not a dark room, but not overly bright either. Since I have 45 days to decide and I can always exchange it for the 65" for the bedroom to replace the 60" Pioneer 151FD Elite plasma that has to be at least 12 years old. My wife who is an interior designer is not thrilled about putting the 75" Z9D in our bedroom. As I explained to her it actually it not any bigger than the Pioneer plasma that's there now as that model had the speakers on the side, although the 65" would be more appropriate for that space.
Gee, I too owned a 60” Pioneer Kuro 151 for close to 8 years. We did not use it’s speakers, but rather an external surround system. Yes indeed, with the side speakers attached, the 60” Kuro 151 is quite large.

When we decided to have a small intimate dedicated home theater room designed for us, my dealer talked me out of an OLED at that time and for a LCD. Therefore, I bought a Sony 75” 740D which was then top-of-the line for Sony LCD TVs at that time. I didn’t like it compared to our Kuro which was already sold. Then a few months later, I got wind that the Z9D was going to be released, so I approached my dealer about it. He was good with it and let me keep the 740D until the Z9D was available. I was one of the first to receive the 75” Z9D after it’s release. In both my wife’s an my opinion, it blew both the 740D and Kuro 151 out of the water, and this was viewing in a completely dark room. In our opinion, our new 77” A9G takes it one step further.

Gosh, if I were you, after owning a 75” size, it would be difficult; at least for me to go down in size to a 65”. We do have a 65” A9F at a vacation home and enjoy it very much watching movies, but when we get back to our main home we appreciated the extra 10”.

I would guess that the brightness of the 77” A9G would not be an issue in a room which is not overly bright, but of course it can’t match the Z9D which can get as bright as the sun. Good luck and hopefully you’ll make the best decision.

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Gee, I too owned a 60” Pioneer Kuro 151 for close to 8 years. We did not use it’s speakers, but rather an external surround system. Yes indeed, with the side speakers attached, the 60” Kuro 151 is quite large.

When we decided to have a small intimate dedicated home theater room designed for us, my dealer talked me out of an OLED at that time and for a LCD. Therefore, I bought a Sony 75” 740D which was then top-of-the line for Sony LCD TVs at that time. I didn’t like it compared to our Kuro which was already sold. Then a few months later, I got wind that the Z9D was going to be released, so I approached my dealer about it. He was good with it and let me keep the 740D until the Z9D was available. I was one of the first to receive the 75” Z9D after it’s release. In both my wife’s an my opinion, it blew both the 740D and Kuro 151 out of the water, and this was viewing in a completely dark room. In our opinion, our new 77” A9G takes it one step further.

Gosh, if I were you, after owning a 75” size, it would be difficult; at least for me to go down in size to a 65”. We do have a 65” A9F at a vacation home and enjoy it very much watching movies, but when we get back to our main home we appreciated the extra 10”.

I would guess that the brightness of the 77” A9G would not be an issue in a room which is not overly bright, but of course it can’t match the Z9D which can get as bright as the sun. Good luck and hopefully you’ll make the best decision.
Your right about the size, once you go up to the 75" it's hard to go back to a 65". If I like the TV and I feel its a step up from the Z9D I will most likely keep it and put the Z9D in the bedroom even though it's 75". If I really like the A9G I could try to sell the Z9D it and get the the 65" A9G OLED or the less expensive 65" LG C9. Depending what I can get for the Z9D it might even pay for the LG or maybe even the Sony depending on if they lower the price even more for Black Friday. It would be a better fit for the bedroom size wise and the bedroom is a darker room. The Z9D would be a great TV for someone as I have done numerous screen checks on and it is near perfect and I just checked my receipt and I bought it less than a year ago. I was surprised because it seemed like I have had it a lot longer. I sold my Sony 940C on the Offer-Up app on my phone in 2 days locally. Looking forward to getting the A9G Tuesday.

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Exactly.

There's a reason nobody goes back.

For crappy signals, I do crank up the Clarity settings. I use Manual/65, Sharpness at 60, and High for the two noise reduction and smooth grading. Sometimes it's a little on the blurry side, so bumping them down to medium helps...it's a tradeoff between blurry vs noise/compression.

Bottom line, it's the superior TV showing the warts more of the crapp signal.
Agreed. I’m usually a purist when it comes to picture settings (all processing off, correct color temp, etc.) but with cable/crap sources, things like Smooth Gradation and Reality Creation find a purpose. While i think 65 is a bit high for RC (20-30 seems like the sweet spot), with crap sources (aka cable) there’s really no “correct” or “pure” picture settings in my opinion.

I actually had this same discussion with a friend recently; he couldn’t figure out why his XFinity service looked so much better (at least in his opinion) on his old Samsung 1080p LED set vs his new Sony 900F, and was shocked to learn that most cable channels still broadcast in 720p and are poorly compressed in addition to that. As the old saying goes,”Crap in, Crap out”
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Hi all,

Just purchased the 77” A9G with Samsung HW-Q80R sound bar, Panasonic DP-UB820, and Apple TV 4K. I have some immensely basic questions so sorry in advance.

1) For setup, I’️m thinking A9G eARC to sound bar and UB820 / ATV / PS4 to sound bar. Is this recommended?

2) I know I need to test the panel after some usage. What’️s necessary for this process? Any links would be greatly appreciated.

3) I plan to calibrate some time from now but what’️s recommended for A9G picture and motion settings right now? I have roller shades so the room is dark similar to theater.

4) What are some recommended settings for the UB820 / ATV / PS4 to function optimally with the A9G? For ATV, I’️ve read 4K SDR with Match Dynamic Range and Frame Rate on.

I know these are broad questions but I’️m here to learn and just need some guidance. Again, any links would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
Well, we have a very similar setup, so here goes:

For the record what i’m using is:
TV: Sony 55 A9G
Video: Panasonic ub820 and the ATV 4K
Soundbar: Sony htz9f (eARC)

I have the Panny and Apple TV connected directly to the A9G, and have the soundbar connect to the eArc input (which has worked flawlessly so far). Everything works smoothly, no complaints.

With the Panasonic, I’d suggest changing the resolution to 1080p when playing back a BD(1080p source) for the best possible picture. The A9G upscales 1080p to 4K a bit better than the Panny 820. While the upscaling on the Panasonic is fine, it’s a noticeably softer picture than what you get when you let the A9G handle it.

As for the Apple TV 4K: you’ll want to go with 4K SDR 60p, and Match Dynamic Range and Match Frame Rate both turned on. And make sure to switch on/enable Atmos in the Audio settings if you’re using an Atmos soundbar .

I’ve had my A9G for a couple of months now and will get it calibrated by the holidays, so in the meantime for picture settings i’m using the Custom preset with both SDR and HDR and have it set at the default values except for Brightness, which i set at 15-30 for SDR. 15 for a dark room, and in a dim room i’ll go as high as 30. But that’s really all up to you and your viewing environment. Also, turn off Reality Creation and Smooth Gradation for anything but maybe cable or DVD’s. With things like the ub820 and ATV4K they do more harm than good.
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Agreed. I’m usually a purist when it comes to picture settings (all processing off, correct color temp, etc.) but with cable/crap sources, things like Smooth Gradation and Reality Creation find a purpose. While i think 65 is a bit high for RC (20-30 seems like the sweet spot), with crap sources (aka cable) there’s really no “correct” or “pure” picture settings in my opinion.

I actually had this same discussion with a friend recently; he couldn’t figure out why his XFinity service looked so much better (at least in his opinion) on his old Samsung 1080p LED set vs his new Sony 900F, and was shocked to learn that most cable channels still broadcast in 720p and are poorly compressed in addition to that. As the old saying goes,”Crap in, Crap out”
oh me too. Those settings are only for Sports from cable broadcast channels...so I have no shame cranking things to look less terrible.

For normal HD streaming like 1080p I keep it at 20 and turn off the other stuff.
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oh me too. Those settings are only for Sports from cable broadcast channels...so I have no shame cranking things to look less terrible.

For normal HD streaming like 1080p I keep it at 20 and turn off the other stuff.
I hear you on that, i use my XFinity box for sports and news mainly, and steam/use discs for everything else. I find that i do the most tweaking/cranking with sports broadcasts. The news channels upscale surprisingly good in my opinion.
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It is almost unwatchable on AppleTV4k Netflix DV content. So dark, I prefer regular SDR. i have AF9.



On internal Android Netflix DV it looks good. Much brighter.



I also think that DV on iTunes Movies is much darker than HDR10 on iTunes.



None of these brightness issues happen with my other AppleTV4k connected to LG OLED.


Yep. Dim Dolby vision is a problem only on my Apple TV. All apps and other external devices of mine are nice and bright with DV. I remember my previous sony TV sets (z9d,a8f) has dim DV with everything, not only Apple TV.
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Thanks for your suggestions. Will give them a try.

What I have a hard time getting used to is the changes in brightness levels between channels. With the Kuro, black levels were consistent, along with colors and flesh tones between channels and multiple input sources. Not so right now with the A9G. It is really frustrating. Plus,the menu system is a bit tedious.

What is the consensus as to break in time?



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I hear you.
Took me a few days to dial down broadcast settings, and im still thinkering with other settings its gonna be a while i think as i said, youve lived with a picture 10years, Its like changing eyes. Eventually you can just relax and enjoy it.


edit: Another thing with broadcast material (atleast mine here in sweden), tends to be grey and not black alot of the time, its £@[email protected]!, anyway try fiddling with black enhance and change black level slider if i think stuff is greyish

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Going back to the Kuro comparisons, I think the most common advice most people on here give is:

If you are not ready/have no interest in HDR or DV content - just keep your Kuro. Hell, I actually know a guy who is doing just that. He has a massive BD collection and is happy with his Kuro. When it stops working (which has happened twice now), he just pays to get it repaired.

As a former owner of a Kuro and a Panasonic VT60, one lesson I learned is do NOT sell your current TV until you know for a fact that your replacement is satisfactory. When the time comes to upgrade from my A9G, which hopefully won’t be for awhile, I’m holding onto it until I know its replacement is a definite keeper.

Shadow detail and near-black performance have always been an issue with OLEDs. Sometimes it can be cringe-worthy, but it has definitely improved over the years. But as others have said, certain flaws that were previously masked on a Kuro, might be more visibly exposed on an OLED. And that’s one of the reasons why my Mom continues to cling to her old Sony 1080i CRT. Because everything they play on it, whether it be streaming, DVDs, or BDs, always looks great.

However, with Samsung getting into the OLED game very soon, as well as a lot of talk about changes in the technology, I’m really hoping we’ll see some good improvements within the next few years. But until that happens, I’m content with my A9G.
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Going back to the Kuro comparisons, I think the most common advice most people on here give is:

If you are not ready/have no interest in HDR or DV content - just keep your Kuro. Hell, I actually know a guy who is doing just that. He has a massive BD collection and is happy with his Kuro. When it stops working (which has happened twice now), he just pays to get it repaired.

As a former owner of a Kuro and a Panasonic VT60, one lesson I learned is do NOT sell your current TV until you know for a fact that your replacement is satisfactory. When the time comes to upgrade from my A9G, which hopefully won’️t be for awhile, I’️m holding onto it until I know its replacement is a definite keeper.

Shadow detail and near-black performance have always been an issue with OLEDs. Sometimes it can be cringe-worthy, but it has definitely improved over the years. But as others have said, certain flaws that were previously masked on a Kuro, might be more visibly exposed on an OLED. And that’️s one of the reasons why my Mom continues to cling to her old Sony 1080i CRT. Because everything they play on it, whether it be streaming, DVDs, or BDs, always looks great.

However, with Samsung getting into the OLED game very soon, as well as a lot of talk about changes in the technology, I’️m really hoping we’️ll see some good improvements within the next few years. But until that happens, I’️m content with my A9G.
Good advice there. The only part i disagree with is the notion that BD’s would look better on a Kuro. HD cable? Most definitely. But i’ve found that BD’s look fantastic on the A9G. I used a Samsung plasma myself, and it really is no contest with standard Blu Ray discs. Even HD steaming looks better on the A9G. But sometimes it’s what we’re used to seeing, our eyes are funny that way.
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