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I haven't run any compensation cycles in the 6 days since I have had this TV. I didn't like what my screen uniformity looked like on a 5% screen YouTube video initially but maybe my eyes were playing tricks on me as I looked at that 5% screen YouTube video again and what I initially saw is no longer there and it actually looks good now. Do these TV'S get TV better with time? Is the compensation cycles that this TV runs on occasion responsible for this drastic improvement?
The display does run some mini cycles in the background, and yes, that could be why it now looks better. Some of the calibrators have commented that these displays may have some mild image retention (not burn-in) initially out-of-the-box, which the cycles would fix. That was probably what you saw.

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From what i’ve read and understand (and from personal experience) the default sharpness of 50 is correct on Sony sets and should always be left there. The 50 setting is Sony’s version of 0, and isn’t sharpening or softening the picture. If it looks normal to you, there’s no reason to fuss with it.

If you want to sharpen the image and aren’t a stickler for accuracy, you could try using Reality Creation. Personally, 50 sharpness with RC turned off always looks best to my eyes; assuming you’re not using a cable box, then RC may help a bit depending on content.
Thanks for that info. I did not want the video to be any sharper. I was just playing with the adjustment and wondering why nothing was changing. Like you, I'm leaving RC turned off.
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Hello All. New owner here. The A9G replaced a 2015 model LG EF9500, and the Sony is such a remarkable upgrade that it's incredible.

I have a question regarding using our old Oppo BD-93 BluRay player. The BD-93 will upscale 720p content to 1080i or 1080p...or it can be set to output a direct signal. Is it better to select the Oppo to output an upscaled signal, or is it better to select the Oppo to output a direct signal (720p DVD video) and let the Sony do the upscaling to 4K? The Oppo is connected via HDMI.
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Hello All. New owner here. The A9G replaced a 2015 model LG EF9500, and the Sony is such a remarkable upgrade that it's incredible.

I have a question regarding using our old Oppo BD-93 BluRay player. The BD-93 will upscale 720p content to 1080i or 1080p...or it can be set to output a direct signal. Is it better to select the Oppo to output an upscaled signal, or is it better to select the Oppo to output a direct signal (720p DVD video) and let the Sony do the upscaling to 4K? The Oppo is connected via HDMI.
I think it's best to keep all the upscaling to one device, so in this case the A9G would be the best bet.
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I think it's best to keep all the upscaling to one device, so in this case the A9G would be the best bet.
That was my inclination. Thanks.
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Hello All. New owner here. The A9G replaced a 2015 model LG EF9500, and the Sony is such a remarkable upgrade that it's incredible.

I have a question regarding using our old Oppo BD-93 BluRay player. The BD-93 will upscale 720p content to 1080i or 1080p...or it can be set to output a direct signal. Is it better to select the Oppo to output an upscaled signal, or is it better to select the Oppo to output a direct signal (720p DVD video) and let the Sony do the upscaling to 4K? The Oppo is connected via HDMI.
The A9G does a great job upscaling, so I have my Oppo 205 set to direct, letting the display do all the upscaling.
By the way, DVDs are 480i (I am surprised by how fantastic even DVDs look on the A9G), and BluRay discs are 1080p. I am not aware of any 720p discs. If you hit "Display" on the remote, you will see the resolution of what you are sending to the display.
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The A9G does a great job upscaling, so I have my Oppo 205 set to direct, letting the display do all the upscaling.
By the way, DVDs are 480i (I am surprised by how fantastic even DVDs look on the A9G), and BluRay discs are 1080p. I am not aware of any 720p discs.
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The display does run some mini cycles in the background, and yes, that could be why it now looks better. Some of the calibrators have commented that these displays may have some mild image retention (not burn-in) initially out-of-the-box, which the cycles would fix. That was probably what you saw.
Well that's a good thing. I had to go back and check it again just to make sure I didn't see what I saw the first time I looked at the 5% screen video and once again I saw zero of what I saw before, It looked really good. No more checking for defects, I'm just going to enjoy this TV which I'm starting to appreciate more and more. Coming from the super bright Z9D lcd TV it has taken some time getting used to it. I know I mentioned this before but the picture to me reminds me of my Pioneer Kuro Elite plasma. It just looks more like that picture with great blacks except without the softness with a much sharper picture. If anybody has DTV maybe they could confirm this: I have the picture set to Original Format in my DTV menu under display. With this TV when I check via the display button the resolution when watching ABC, ESPN and Fox which broadcasts in 720P the display shows 1080I resolution. Is there some setting in the TV that I need to change?

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I just ordered the 77" A9G at Best buy yesterday, it'll be arriving on the 31st. This is the most excited I've ever been over a TV purchase!
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I have the picture set to Original Format in my DTV menu under display. With this TV when I check via the display button the resolution when watching ABC, ESPN and Fox which broadcasts in 720P the display shows 1080I resolution. Is there some setting in the TV that I need to change?
I don't see how that could be a setting in the TV. What you are seeing is the resolution going to the TV from DTV. So it must be a setting in DTV, or it's possible that although those channels broadcast in 720p, DTV automatically upscales them to 1080i. I have FIOS, and I set my cable box to output 1080i for all TV broadcasts so I also see 1080i when hitting the display button for all 720p/1080i TV broadcasts.

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Streaming content via Netflix Calibrated or Prime Video's Dolby Vision looks outstanding on the XBR-A9G. No fuss. No muss.

We are very, very happy!
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Right. Doh!

This time of year, we receive lots of screeners for award consideration. I can't understand why the studios don't send BluRay discs, but it is what it is...
Rampant piracy of the screener DVDs. They come out months ahead of the BluRays, sometimes when the movie is still in theaters. They definitely don't want high quality leaks that early.
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I don't see how that could be a setting in the TV. What you are seeing is the resolution going to the TV from DTV. So it must be a setting in DTV, or it's possible that although those channels broadcast in 720p, DTV automatically upscales them to 1080i. I have FIOS, and I set my cable box to output 1080i for all TV broadcasts so I also see 1080i when hitting the display button for all 720p/1080i TV broadcasts.
I have the screen setting in the DTV menu to Original Format and my Z9D it showed the 720p resolution when I hit the display button on the remote. It's possible that DTV did a firmware update that makes it now send out 1080I. Not really a big deal anyway. Today I saw a little led red light at the bottom middle of the TV just to the right of the the very faint blue almost white light that is on when the TV is on and it goes off when the TV is turned off. The red led light however stays on and to be honest I don't ever remember seeing that little red led light before, I guess it's possible I just never noticed it but I'm pretty sure I would have noticed it. It turns out is has to do with Google Assistant when the light is on, Google assistant is on. I'm sure I never activated this but never the less it's there. I went into the tools menu and scrolled down to Google and disabled it as I have never used Google Assistant.

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Looks the ATV App is rolling out the A9G's. Maybe that means Airplay will be soon too.

https://9to5mac.com/2019/10/29/apple...pple-tv-debut/
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Considering purchasing the A9G 55”.

I watch, almost exclusively, live sports. I stream through a Roku Ultra, mostly through YouTube.TV but intend to switch to Fubo as soon as they get ESPN.

I’m a bit worried that the minimal amount of 4K live sports content available may leave me disappointed.

I currently have a 51” Samsung Plasma.

Will the A9G’s upscaling of 1080P/720P be at least as good as what I get now?

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Considering purchasing the A9G 55”.

I watch, almost exclusively, live sports. I stream through a Roku Ultra, mostly through YouTube.TV but intend to switch to Fubo as soon as they get ESPN.

I’m a bit worried that the minimal amount of 4K live sports content available may leave me disappointed.

I currently have a 51” Samsung Plasma.

Will the A9G’s upscaling of 1080P/720P be at least as good as what I get now?
I went from a Panasonic plasma to the A9G and absolutely love it, even though most of my viewing is SDR. TV broadcasts, BluRay discs, and even DVDs look fantastic. Sony does a better job with upscaling and motion handling than other brands, so I don't think you will be disappointed (although you really need to go look at it in stores to make sure). I think most will agree that for plasma owners, OLED is the only way to go, and the A9G is the best one out there.
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I went from a Panasonic plasma to the A9G and absolutely love it, even though most of my viewing is SDR. TV broadcasts, BluRay discs, and even DVDs look fantastic. Sony does a better job with upscaling and motion handling than other brands, so I don't think you will be disappointed (although you really need to go look at it in stores to make sure). I think most will agree that for plasma owners, OLED is the only way to go, and the A9G is the best one out there.


Thanks. Issue is when I go to a store, they never have live TV streaming. It’s always something planet earth 4K blue ray....looks incredible but not what I am going to get from Fox or Espn via tubetv...wish I could test it


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Our A9G has better picture quality from all sources than our previous flagship LG OLED. I suspect it will be better than your Panasonic plasma as well. You will also benefit by being able to stream from the YouTube app on the Sony versus using an additional device.
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Considering purchasing the A9G 55”.

I watch, almost exclusively, live sports. I stream through a Roku Ultra, mostly through YouTube.TV but intend to switch to Fubo as soon as they get ESPN.

I’m a bit worried that the minimal amount of 4K live sports content available may leave me disappointed.

I currently have a 51” Samsung Plasma.

Will the A9G’s upscaling of 1080P/720P be at least as good as what I get now?

Thanks.


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Yes, I watch plenty of PS Vue on my A9G and sports look roughly as good as on my Panasonic GT50.
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Looks the ATV App is rolling out the A9G's. Maybe that means Airplay will be soon too.

https://9to5mac.com/2019/10/29/apple...pple-tv-debut/

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Looks the ATV App is rolling out the A9G's. Maybe that means Airplay will be soon too.



https://9to5mac.com/2019/10/29/apple...pple-tv-debut/


I’m really hoping this app allows us to watch dolby vision on iTunes movies without it being dim like it is on the Apple TV 4K box paired with the a9g.
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Looks the ATV App is rolling out the A9G's. Maybe that means Airplay will be soon too.

https://9to5mac.com/2019/10/29/apple...pple-tv-debut/

Apologies if this is frowned upon, but would you or someone who has gotten the firmware update already be willing to extract the APK from the TV using ADB? I really wanna try this out on the Shield TV and see if it functions correctly there.
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I’m really hoping this app allows us to watch dolby vision on iTunes movies without it being dim like it is on the Apple TV 4K box paired with the a9g.
Is this still an issue with Apple TV 4K boxes connected to Sony TV's and are there any updates on plans to patch / fix this?
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I never use my ATV4K for DV on the OLED, looks terrible. I have an X800M2 connected, but I have DV turned off. I would assume DV from the Sony player works fine with the Sony OLED, but I have not tried it...

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I appreciate all the comments regarding the display panel, comparable brightness to other displays, but what I really didn't see is regarding the performance of the speaker that can be used as a dedicated center channel. While I certainly realize, that my use case might be the exception, but what really intrigues me to this display is the possibility of using the panel as a dedicated center channel in a 5.1.2 or 5.2.2 setup.

We are building a new house and due to the wife's fireplace requirement, I probably won't have room to place a center channel (even a in-wall) under the TV, as the mantle and fireplace will be there. I haven't yet decided on which way I am going for the L&R channels, but am looking at either some B&W in wall 7.3's or some definitive technology, b&w or paradigm towers. Would the A9 speaker work with those combinations in terms of sensitivity and tonal qualities?

Thanks for any insight you can provide.
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I appreciate all the comments regarding the display panel, comparable brightness to other displays, but what I really didn't see is regarding the performance of the speaker that can be used as a dedicated center channel. While I certainly realize, that my use case might be the exception, but what really intrigues me to this display is the possibility of using the panel as a dedicated center channel in a 5.1.2 or 5.2.2 setup.

We are building a new house and due to the wife's fireplace requirement, I probably won't have room to place a center channel (even a in-wall) under the TV, as the mantle and fireplace will be there. I haven't yet decided on which way I am going for the L&R channels, but am looking at either some B&W in wall 7.3's or some definitive technology, b&w or paradigm towers. Would the A9 speaker work with those combinations in terms of sensitivity and tonal qualities?

Thanks for any insight you can provide.
Hopefully I can offer some insight as I was very interested in the center channel capability of the XBR A9G.

Some brief background, I am an audiophile with a dedicated two channel system, but our "home theater" is a very modest 3.1 system with NHT SuperOne L/R fronts, a NHT subwoofer and ZVOX 555 soundbase as a center channel speaker. We have been using the ZVOX 555 for many years, and frankly it works extremely well. That said, I was intrigued by the possibility of eliminating it from the system to make a cleaner looking installation.

I installed the A9G into the sound system as a center channel speaker. The Sony's speakers in this configuration are rather thin sounding...falling off significantly below 70 Hz, and it wasn't a satisfactory blend with the other speakers.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/1-3/graph#833/2551

We decided to keep the ZVOX 555 installed, and we use both the A9G and ZVOX as center channel speakers...balancing their output levels.

Everyone has different likes and priorities, but you may find a sound bar is required for better center channel sound.
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Hopefully I can offer some insight as I was very interested in the center channel capability of the XBR A9G.

Some brief background, I am an audiophile with a dedicated two channel system, but our "home theater" is a very modest 3.1 system with NHT SuperOne L/R fronts, a NHT subwoofer and ZVOX 555 soundbase as a center channel speaker. We have been using the ZVOX 555 for many years, and frankly it works extremely well. That said, I was intrigued by the possibility of eliminating it from the system to make a cleaner looking installation.

I installed the A9G into the sound system as a center channel speaker. The Sony's speakers in this configuration are rather thin sounding...falling off significantly below 70 Hz, and it wasn't a satisfactory blend with the other speakers.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/1-3/graph#833/2551

We decided to keep the ZVOX 555 installed, and we use both the A9G and ZVOX as center channel speakers...balancing their output levels.

Everyone has different likes and priorities, but you may find a sound bar is required for better center channel sound.
Thank you for this. I somewhat suspected this and appreciate it. I might end up doing an in-wall center channel and then bump up the TV by about 7 inches to accommodate the center channel. Unfortunately, most conventional center channels have too much depth.
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Thank you for this. I somewhat suspected this and appreciate it. I might end up doing an in-wall center channel and then bump up the TV by about 7 inches to accommodate the center channel. Unfortunately, most conventional center channels have too much depth.
Forgot to specify we have a table top 55” A9G.
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Is this still an issue with Apple TV 4K boxes connected to Sony TV's and are there any updates on plans to patch / fix this?


I’m on the newest atv4k patch and it’s still very dim. None of my other DV sources are dim. I tested the internal Netflix, Vudu, amazon apps, Panasonic ub820 4k player, Xbox one x, and none of them have dim dv with the a9g. Which is why I’m hoping that a built in Apple TV app will provide a good workaround.
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