Originally Posted by Menarini
If you watch 4k or good quality 1080p, upscaling advantage of sony does not apply. But how would you negate the advantage of motion and gradient handling? Motion is still an advantage regardless of the resolution. At this shootout, they kept motion interpolation switched off, still sony's motion appears a little smoother, see the shootout scoring. And see when vincent does a side by side of the c9 and a9g.
And you only own a lg c9, how are you saying it is 'essentially indistinguishable' from sony, when you dont have a sony in the room to draw a distinction between? It's unscientific to make a claim they are 'indistinguishable' when you arent comparing them side by side. Why do shootouts have them side by side for comparison purposes? Because that's where the differences will be noticeable. If you find that the lg motion is good enough for you when viewed independently, that's fine, but that doesnt negate the fact that ,comparatively, sony's motion is better. This is is the generally held professional opinion.
Gradient handling also works slighly better on sony, switch off smooth gradation (smooth gradation reduces fine detail) and see which tv deals with posterization artifacts better.
If you are not calibrating, the ootb accuracy of sony is also better than lg.
There are advantages with the sony for discerning watchers, but if you are convinced that the lg is 'good enough' for your tastes that's fine, just know that it isn't the best available in the market in terms of processing/accuracy.
You are still embellishing minor differences as you always do in every thread where you get into these arguments with other posters. The fact is that the motion differences are so slight now, they’re barely worthy of discussion. Professional reviews mention it all the time. LG has essentially caught up.
I’ve told you that I’ve been at many of these shootouts (have you???) and attendees are often seen pressing their noses against the screen, struggling to see tiny differences. Do you honestly believe that when you struggle to see differences at inches
from the screen, that these differences are easily noticed when you’re 8’ from the screen and involved in the content you’re watching? You do watch the content, right? You don’t watch TV solely to see razor thin quality differences...or do you?
The other point you miss is that when issues are actually significant, A/Bs aren’t even necessary. I don’t need an A/B to see poor black levels. I don’t need an A/B to see blooming issues. However we do need A/Bs to see ‘splitting hairs’ differences. And the point is that these ‘splitting hairs differences’ (sorry Menarini, that’s what we’re down to now with the top displays), are necessary to reveal them. Take either display away from this A/B environment, and often the differences all but disappear.
When it comes to contouring, LG has significantly narrowed the gap. I can see a significant difference in how my B6 and C9 handle contouring. I’m only going by my recollection of Sony’s handling of this issue and it was excellent. I haven’t seen the C9 in an A/B with the Sony for this issue. What I can say with 100% certainty, is the C9 now handles this issue well enough so that it’s only seen on extremely rare occasions with highly compressed content and when it is there, it’s very minor. Translation? It wouldn’t ever be a factor for me in a purchasing decision. Also keep in mind that very fine detail can be compromised with either display when being too aggressive in controlling contouring.
So Menarini, round and round we go as usual, as you do with other posters. We accomplish nothing. My only objective is to point out other opinions exist and that the differences between these displays are minor. Creating the impression that there are major quality differences where they don’t exist doesn’t serve prospective buyers well.
The bottom line is I’ll never convince you and you’ll never convince me. You love Sony and that comes across clearly in every thread you venture into. That’s fine as long as embellishments are kept under control.
Personally I think it’s great having 2 superb displays that perform so closely that each is a winner in its own right.