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Shouldn't they be covering up the TV's so it's impartial?
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Kevin Miller and John Reformato calibrating the TVs for the 2019 TV Shootout TV.

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I think its John Reformato and Kevin Miller calibrating. Take a close look and see if you can figure out the problem we were trying to solve. 😀
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I think its John Reformato and Kevin Miller calibrating. Take a close look and see if you can figure out the problem we were trying to solve.
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I'm MCing the shootout this year, and I look forward to seeing any AVS Forum members who can attend! It'll be a full day of some serious geeking out!
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I'm MCing the shootout this year, and I look forward to seeing any AVS Forum members who can attend! It'll be a full day of some serious geeking out!
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Roll call; who's going?

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I’m attending! It starts at 9am correct? How long is the shootout event? I have to go to work after. :/


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I’m attending! It starts at 9am correct? How long is the shootout event? I have to go to work after. :/


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I think that's when the doors open. I don't know the planned time of start for judging yet. Last year the judging lasted a 3 to 4 hours anyways.....


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Here is the set up so far at the Javits center.
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Here is the set up so far at the Javits center.
Like it. Better setup than last year for sure. Hopefully VE includes OLEDs and LCDs in the mix instead of like vs. like.

Also, hopefully the brand remains invisible / anonymous until after the results are out.
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Update:
After further evaluation post calibration, side by side, the LG SM9500 just wasn't good enough to be in the mix of best of the best.

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What models are in the shootout?


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After further evaluation post calibration, side by side, the LG SM9500 just wasn't good enough to be in the mix of best of the best.

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I was surprised to see it on list, I if the PQX was even considered.

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What these shootout and experts always miss to test for and add to the score is the impact game mode has on..
- image quality like poor blacks due to worse local dimming algorithm.
- motion handling causing image duplication due to PWM backlight flicker as well as input lag.

It's all just based on movie and tv watching, excluding the game playing experience.

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The shootout starts at 9am correct? That’s when we can pick up our passes. Is there a schedule?


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The shootout starts at 9am correct? That’s when we can pick up our passes. Is there a schedule?


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Unfortunately this is all I got for info:

Start at 9:30am sharp.


They start by covering the ground rules for the day, comments, and presentations followed by demonstrations, evaluations and voting on each category.


The four main categories are:


SDR Reference "Dark Room


SDR Day Mode, Bright Room


HDR Reference 


Streaming


Announcement of the results




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What these shootout and experts always miss to test for and add to the score is the impact game mode has on..

- image quality like poor blacks due to worse local dimming algorithm.

- motion handling causing image duplication due to PWM backlight flicker as well as input lag.



It's all just based on movie and tv watching, excluding the game playing experience.
Probably due to time constraints. You can only do so much in one day but it's a good suggestion and I will mention it tomorrow. Could be something to look into for next time.

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What models are in the shootout?


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Like it. Better setup than last year for sure. Hopefully VE includes OLEDs and LCDs in the mix instead of like vs. like.



Also, hopefully the brand remains invisible / anonymous until after the results are out.
It's 2 OLEDs and 2 LCDs..... Not sure what you're asking.

I like the idea of not knowing what TV it is.

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Thanks...thought they may have added one or two since then.
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Thanks...thought they may have added one or two since then.
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I attended! I should have sought you out!
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were you there when Kevin Miller noticed at intermission that the Samsung was on the wrong settings? it was in non calibrated mode the 1st half.
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were you there when Kevin Miller noticed at intermission that the Samsung was on the wrong settings? it was in non calibrated mode the 1st half.

Was that before the lunch break, I had to leave. During the first intermission I was too busy drooling over the massive Sony 8K TV!


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Was that before the lunch break, I had to leave. During the first intermission I was too busy drooling over the massive Sony 8K TV!


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it was during the lunch break. to be fair the Samsung went from undersaturated to Oversaturated lol

do they have multiple 8k tvs setup or just 1?
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were you there when Kevin Miller noticed at intermission that the Samsung was on the wrong settings? it was in non calibrated mode the 1st half.
That's not what was happening. What was noticed is that every time 30p or 60p signal was sent it was switching to PC mode. That was noticed right away by Dave McKenzie.

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it was during the lunch break. to be fair the Samsung went from undersaturated to Oversaturated lol



do they have multiple 8k tvs setup or just 1?
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