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I don't know whether simplilink on my C9 is currently on or off, with the Denon removed from the connection manager and HDMI control turned off on the Denon there is no way for the TV to control the AVR at this time and the eARC is fully functional. The TV is passing all audio sources directly on to the Denon when the Denon is on the TV Audio input.
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Jack Ryan 4K would do nicely. Trying to see if you get Atmos.
Jack Ryan 4K is indeed coming up with Atmos on the Denon.
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Agreed.
Also....

If you try to use the TV remote volume control with the eARC connection active and CEC turned off the TV displays a small gray circle with a bar through it showing that this functionality is not available.

Which is fine by me.

I'd much rather troubleshoot the tiny number of Harmony issues I will likely find rather than dealing with the hellishness that is HDMI CEC.
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The 2018 models got eARC via a firmware update.
The Denon 2017 models got the eARC via firmware update as well but it's still not working.

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I completed swap out of my Denon X4400H to the Denon X4500H and can report preliminary test results and some interesting findings.

1. Completed hardware swap and setup of Denon X4500H.
2. During X4500H did not elect to set up TV audio which leaves ARC and HDMI control turned off.
2. Removed Denon X4500H from LG C9 "connections manager".
3. At this point the Denon is not being controlled by the C9.
4. Begin playback of Panasonic 820 4K BD player which is connected to HDMI port 4 on C9.
5. C9 is connected to Denon monitor/ARC out on C9 HDMI port 2 (arc port).
6. Switch Denon to TV Audio input.
7. C9 is playing TV audio through TV speakers.
8. Enter C9 Audio menu and toggle HDMI Audio to ARC on.
9. Denon X4500H displays "stereo" and there is no audio being played back.
10. On C9 toggle from HDMI ARC to HDMI eARC and passthrough.
11. X4500H displays HD audio tracks.

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Very informative post, I'll have to save this for when I get my Denon X6500H.
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The Denon 2017 models got the eARC via firmware update as well but it's still not working.
We have one report that it's not working on Sony TVs either which would lean towards there being a problem on Denon's side. I thought earlier on we had reports that the 2017 Marantz/Denon gear was working from the Sony sets that had the new eARC feature.
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I completed swap out of my Denon X4400H to the Denon X4500H and can report preliminary test results and some interesting findings.

1. Completed hardware swap and setup of Denon X4500H.
2. During X4500H did not elect to set up TV audio which leaves ARC and HDMI control turned off.
2. Removed Denon X4500H from LG C9 "connections manager".
3. At this point the Denon is not being controlled by the C9.
4. Begin playback of Panasonic 820 4K BD player which is connected to HDMI port 4 on C9.
5. C9 is connected to Denon monitor/ARC out on C9 HDMI port 2 (arc port).
6. Switch Denon to TV Audio input.
7. C9 is playing TV audio through TV speakers.
8. Enter C9 Audio menu and toggle HDMI Audio to ARC on.
9. Denon X4500H displays "stereo" and there is no audio being played back.
10. On C9 toggle from HDMI ARC to HDMI eARC and passthrough.
11. X4500H displays HD audio tracks.

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Can you try using C9 internal video player to stream a lossless atmos and see if it send atmos on AVR? Thanks!
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Jack Ryan 4K is indeed coming up with Atmos on the Denon.
Thanks.
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Can you try using C9 internal video player to stream a lossless atmos and see if it send atmos on AVR? Thanks!


Provide a link to the Atmos file you want to see tested.


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Wow, dfa973, that is the most information I have yet received anywhere! Thank you!
Glad to help!

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So, assuming that the Sony z9F soundbar has eARC, I would just buy that now and call it a day, if I could be assured that it was compatible with the C9.
You must search (on this forum or elsewhere) for somebody that has this combo and see if it works.

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And by compatible, I mean that the LG TV remote controls soundbar power, volume, and muting, and of course source switching at the TV (since all external sources are connected via TV HDMI inputs). So I don’t have to deal with a soundbar remote in daily use (after setup or for more complex adjustments).
This is the standard state of play regarding CEC, but no way to be sure, somebody must test this.

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Isn’t TV eARC-to-soundbar eARC supposed to ASSURE that compatibility? Or am I mistaken?
Yes, in theory, but in practice...

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I note that the Sony website specs for the HT-Z9F do not mention eARC, but I assume the firmware update is confirmed and ?
The soundbar was manufactured without eARC, so is normal that eARC is not mentioned. This is the standard procedure.

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Intact on newly sold units?
Probably not, but only Sony knows that for sure.

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And, by the way, if all external sources connect to HDMI inputs on the C9, then you would connect the TV eARC input to the soundbar eARC output to OUTPUT sound from TV to soundbar, because eARC (or any ARc) is bidirectional, correct?
ARC/eARC is the "reverse" audio path from the TV to the AVR/soundbar. The "normal" path is audio TO the TV from a source/device connected directly to the TV or through an AVR or soundbar.

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I read in some post that LG ARC was not necessarily compatible with Sony ARC.
Maybe..., ARC/eARC should work inter-brands, but sometimes not. ARC & CEC are two fussy HDMI features.

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But can I rest easy that any company’s eARC, by its very nature, is compatible with any other company’s eARC?
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Or is it more complicated than that? Because buying online (there are no home theater stores in Seaside, OR!), trying, reboxing, and sending back a soundbar is not easy.
You really need to find some evidence that they work together if you have no place to test them yourself.

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Does this mean that, in order to get noncompressed hi res and Atmos sound from Netflix, for example, one would need to NOT use the C9 internal Netflix app, but instead hook up a Roku to an HDMI input on the TV?
Yes, since the internal apps do not support HD audio, you must use an HDMI source, such as a Roku.


EDIT: In a previous post I said that Samsung has no eARC soundbar, which is not true, Samsung has an eARC soundbar, the Samsung HW-Q90R that replaces last year's HW-N950! Unknown if it works with the C9.

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I won't even pretend to understand all of the in's and out's of eARC, but I have what I hope is a simple question.

I'm looking to pair a more modern receiver with my new C9, and have been looking in particular at the Denon 2018 and 2019 lines. My primary goal is streamlining HDMI source switching, and supporting my 4K capable devices. I only have a 5.1 speaker setup, and I'm not looking to add any additional speakers.

So the question really is, is the difference in price between 2018 and 2019 worthwhile, an increase of about $200 on average for the models I've been looking at, S940, vs S950, X1500 vs X1600.
To not pollute this thread it will be better to post your questions to the relevant Denon 2018 and 2019 AVRs threads:

OFFICIAL" 2018 Denon "S-Series" / "X-Series" AVR Owner's Thread + FAQ (Posts 1-8)

OFFICIAL" 2019 Denon "S-Series" / "X-Series" AVR Owner's Thread + FAQ (Posts 1-8)

Please read the first 8 posts in each thread, you will find your questions answered for sure.
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I think the 2018 Denons don't support virtual height speakers and ALLM (Auto Low Latency Mode) passthrough for gaming. Otherwise I think the differences are fairly minor. As far as we know so far, the 2018/19s work equally well with the C9 (aside from ALLM).

(Edit: also not sure if 2018 models get HDCP 2.3 in an update)
The 2018 Denons support DTS Virtual:X, but not Dolby Virtual Speakers (introduced with the 2019 models only).
ALLM is supported in all 2017, 2018 and 2019 models, even non-eARC models (below X3xxxH series)
HDCP 2.3 is available only on 2019 Denon models and on C9 it will be available as a firmware update in the second half of this year.
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After all of this grief it appears to work just like your Sony set does.

The problem is there was a pile of low quality information being provided early on coupled with two legitimate issues,

1. multi-channel PCM does not currently work through eARC on the C9.
2. 2017/18 Denon Marantz units like the 4400, 3400, 7012, etc., do not work.
Congratulations on your new X4500H, and that it works as it should!

Do note that the 2018 Denon eARC models do work with the C9 (and Sony's), your X4500H is a 2018 model!
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Updated list for known AVRs vs C9 eARC

AVRs known to work with C9 eARC

- Pioneer VSX-LX503 - 2018 - (requires CEC=ON on the receiver for eARC to work)
- Denon AVR-X3500H - 2018
- Denon AVR-4500H - 2018 - eARC works (ignoring the TV Audio setup) with CEC=OFF and ARC=OFF on Denon and eARC=ON on C9 (also works about the same with the 2018 Sony A9F/AF9 OLED eARC TV, with CEC=OFF on both and ARC=OFF on Denon)
- Denon AVR-X6500H - 2018
- Yamaha RX-V685 - 2018 - (requires CEC=ON on the receiver for eARC to work)

- Denon AVR-S750H - 2019 (requires SimplLink=ON on the C9 and HDMI Control=ON on the S750H for eARC to work, but with the TV Audio setup?)
- Denon AVR-X1600H - 2019 - (also works with 2019 Sony X950G eARC TV)


AVRs not working with C9 eARC
- Denon AVR-X3400H - 2017
- Denon AVR-X4400H - 2017 - (on TV Audio is capable of only Stereo with the 2018 Sony A9F/AF9 OLED eARC TVs internal apps, HD audio does pass-through!);
- Denon AVR-X6400H - 2017 - (on TV Audio is capable of only Stereo with the C9);
- Marantz SR7012 - 2017 - (also no HD audio with the 2018 Sony A9F/AF9 OLED eARC TVs internal apps/Plex)
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Is the red part below true of the other 2018 Denons as well, particularly the 3500?


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Updated list for known AVRs vs C9 eARC

AVRs known to work with C9 eARC

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- Denon AVR-4500H - 2018 - eARC works (ignoring the TV Audio setup) with CEC=OFF and ARC=OFF on Denon and eARC=ON on C9 (also works about the same with the 2018 Sony A9F/AF9 OLED eARC TV, with CEC=OFF on both and ARC=OFF on Denon)
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For those who have a PS4 and have EARC working, how do you have audio output set on your console?

The PS4 defaults to PCM out and I’m only getting stereo... I assume due to the current limitation in the C9 of not passing through PCM over two channels.

The other choices are bitstream preference Dolby digital and bitstream preference DTS.

It’s not clear to me how these settings will work with different games since I suspect many games are not mastered in Dolby vs DTS.


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- Denon AVR-4500H - 2018 - eARC works (ignoring the TV Audio setup) with CEC=OFF and ARC=OFF on Denon and eARC=ON on C9 (also works about the same with the 2018 Sony A9F/AF9 OLED eARC TV, with CEC=OFF on both and ARC=OFF on Denon)

- Denon AVR-S750H - 2019 (requires SimplLink=ON on the C9 and HDMI Control=ON on the S750H for eARC to work, but with the TV Audio setup?)
The method he used with his 4500 is to get it connected without HDMI Control. That same method worked for me on my 750. It breaks the connection if you toggle the SimpLink setting on the TV.
I'm sure he also could have used the normal method of adding his 4500 through the LG's Device Connector settings to get it to work with HDMI Control on.

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For those who have a PS4 and have EARC working, how do you have audio output set on your console?

The PS4 defaults to PCM out and I’m only getting stereo... I assume due to the current limitation in the C9 of not passing through PCM over two channels.

The other choices are bitstream preference Dolby digital and bitstream preference DTS.

It’s not clear to me how these settings will work with different games since I suspect many games are not mastered in Dolby vs DTS.
I haven't done any testing with game audio yet. But if you watch a blu-ray, it ignores the system audio setting, and just plays the highest quality track unless you tell it otherwise.

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Glad to help!



You must search (on this forum or elsewhere) for somebody that has this combo and see if it works.



This is the standard state of play regarding CEC, but no way to be sure, somebody must test this.



Yes, in theory, but in practice...



The soundbar was manufactured without eARC, so is normal that eARC is not mentioned. This is the standard procedure.



Probably not, but only Sony knows that for sure.



ARC/eARC is the "reverse" audio path from the TV to the AVR/soundbar. The "normal" path is audio TO the TV from a source/device connected directly to the TV or through an AVR or soundbar.



Maybe..., ARC/eARC should work inter-brands, but sometimes not. ARC & CEC are two fussy HDMI features.



We hope so!



You really need to find some evidence that they work together if you have no place to test them yourself.



Yes, since the internal apps do not support HD audio, you must use an HDMI source, such as a Roku.


EDIT: In a previous post I said that Samsung has no eARC soundbar, which is not true, Samsung has an eARC soundbar, the Samsung HW-Q90R that replaces last year's HW-N950! Unknown if it works with the C9.
Question: “And, by the way, if all external sources connect to HDMI inputs on the C9, then you would connect the TV eARC input to the soundbar eARC output to OUTPUT sound from TV to soundbar, because eARC (or any ARc) is bidirectional, correct?”

Reply: “ARC/eARC is the "reverse" audio path from the TV to the AVR/soundbar. The "normal" path is audio TO the TV from a source/device connected directly to the TV or through an AVR or soundbar”

Yes, but does your reply indicate that there is a problem getting sound FROM C9 TV TO the soundbar via TV eARC input to the soundbar ARC or eARC output connection?
Because I cannot picture any other way...the only eARC on the C9 is an “input”, and the only ARC or eARC on soundbars seem to be “outputs”. And most soundbars don’t seem to have enough inputs (the Sony z9F for example only has 2 inputs) to connect all your external sources, while the C9 does have enough inputs for external sources.
(Not to mention that connecting all external sources to the soundbar rather than the TV would require using the soundbar remote for switching, which, along with the TV remote and the Roku (now apparently needed since the C9 internal apps wont pass HD sound), means we would up to using 3 remotes!

Also, will the C9 pass through HD sound formats from a Roku connected to one of its inputs through eARC to a soundbar? Or, God forbid, is the only way to get HD sound from a Roku to get it by connecting the Roku TO the soundbar? Thus forcing us to use the soundbar remote to switch sources? . Aaaaaarrggh!

Again, thank you for your advice!
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Question: “And, by the way, if all external sources connect to HDMI inputs on the C9, then you would connect the TV eARC input to the soundbar eARC output to OUTPUT sound from TV to soundbar, because eARC (or any ARc) is bidirectional, correct?”



Reply: “ARC/eARC is the "reverse" audio path from the TV to the AVR/soundbar. The "normal" path is audio TO the TV from a source/device connected directly to the TV or through an AVR or soundbar”



Yes, but does your reply indicate that there is a problem getting sound FROM C9 TV TO the soundbar via TV eARC input to the soundbar ARC or eARC output connection?

Because I cannot picture any other way...the only eARC on the C9 is an “input”, and the only ARC or eARC on soundbars seem to be “outputs”. And most soundbars don’t seem to have enough inputs (the Sony z9F for example only has 2 inputs) to connect all your external sources, while the C9 does have enough inputs for external sources.

(Not to mention that connecting all external sources to the soundbar rather than the TV would require using the soundbar remote for switching, which, along with the TV remote and the Roku (now apparently needed since the C9 internal apps wont pass HD sound), means we would up to using 3 remotes!



Also, will the C9 pass through HD sound formats from a Roku connected to one of its inputs through eARC to a soundbar? Or, God forbid, is the only way to get HD sound from a Roku to get it by connecting the Roku TO the soundbar? Thus forcing us to use the soundbar remote to switch sources? . Aaaaaarrggh!



Again, thank you for your advice!


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I completed swap out of my Denon X4400H to the Denon X4500H and can report preliminary test results and some interesting findings.

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2. Removed Denon X4500H from LG C9 "connections manager".
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Not sure about this step? Wouldn't the C9 have had the X4400H on the device list since this is what you had before? Did the C9 automatically detect the X4500H and then you removed it?

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Not sure about this step? Wouldn't the C9 have had the X4400H on the device list since this is what you had before? Did the C9 automatically detect the X4500H and then you removed it?


The C9 doesn’t specify what model number it is connected to just that it is a Denon sound bar.

It is possible that after removing it if I had disconnected and reconnected the cable it would have auto discovered it as a different device.

Since I wanted EARC on but didn’t want to use the marginal tv remote to run my setup I chose to not turn HDMI CEC back on.


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For those who have a PS4 and have EARC working, how do you have audio output set on your console?

The PS4 defaults to PCM out and I’m only getting stereo... I assume due to the current limitation in the C9 of not passing through PCM over two channels.

The other choices are bitstream preference Dolby digital and bitstream preference DTS.

It’s not clear to me how these settings will work with different games since I suspect many games are not mastered in Dolby vs DTS. Also i have a 3500h denon with earc and my panasonic works with the hdr but not atmos even though it says it is in atmos but outputs DD 5.1 instead.


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PS4 never upgraded there audio so all u can get is DD DTS or PCM or you can use your receivers sound modes to make it sound different. Xbox has all the good audio like atmos.. Maybe when ps5 comes out they are finally going to upgrade the audio.
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ARC is bi directional. Audio RETURN channel.


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Ok, so I assume this means that my proposed hook up would work (external sources to TV HDMI inputs, TV connect to soundbar via TV eARC input to soundbar eARC output to pass lossless audio from external sources to soundbar).

And assuming the eARC delivers on its promised compatibility among manufacturers and remote control of devices (as in the LG TV remote controlling the soundbar), then it would make sense to buy an eARC soundbar such as the Sony z9F to go with my LG C9.

But it would be nice to know before buying if my assumption of compatibility of eARC across different manufacturers is a safe assumption or a pipe dream.
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Ok, so I assume this means that my proposed hook up would work (external sources to TV HDMI inputs, TV connect to soundbar via TV eARC input to soundbar eARC output to pass lossless audio from external sources to soundbar).



And assuming the eARC delivers on its promised compatibility among manufacturers and remote control of devices (as in the LG TV remote controlling the soundbar), then it would make sense to buy an eARC soundbar such as the Sony z9F to go with my LG C9.



But it would be nice to know before buying if my assumption of compatibility of eARC across different manufacturers is a safe assumption or a pipe dream.


Since you want EARC plus volume control from the TV you will have to have both EARC and CEC working between manufacturers.

Best bet is purchase somewhere with a good return policy.


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But it would be nice to know before buying if my assumption of compatibility of eARC across different manufacturers is a safe assumption or a pipe dream.

Compatibility across all mfrs for eARC is still a pipe dream for some. Some say you need CEC enabled, some say you don't, and some say that even if you disable CEC, there is still a communication going on that COULD mess with eARC. There is just no way of knowing until you try. A lot of tv's still can not pass uncompressed HD Audio from an external source via ARC or eARC to a receiver and/or soundbar. The internal apps should work for eARC between the tv and receiver/soundbar but even that is currently having some issues for some.

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PS4 never upgraded there audio so all u can get is DD DTS or PCM or you can use your receivers sound modes to make it sound different. Xbox has all the good audio like atmos.. Maybe when ps5 comes out they are finally going to upgrade the audio.


So does that mean the games are PCM and if one of the bit stream formats is chosen the PS4 is encoding the audio on the fly or that all of the games have multiple soundtracks?


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Is the red part below true of the other 2018 Denons as well, particularly the 3500?
We have no reason to think that it differs. X3500H should work the same as X4500H or X6500H or X8500H.
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I have not played around with my ps4 with my new denon 3500h but my old pioneer 103 had pcm stuck at 2.0 unless you use a different sound mix to make it fake 5.1 or something. Just finished up dark and now im doing jonny quest, so many new titles .
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Question: “And, by the way, if all external sources connect to HDMI inputs on the C9, then you would connect the TV eARC input to the soundbar eARC output to OUTPUT sound from TV to soundbar, because eARC (or any ARc) is bidirectional, correct?”
The correct path is this:

Blu-ray player (or any HDMI device) output ------ TV input 1 -- TV input 2 (ARC/eARC)* ----- Soundbar main input (ARC/eARC)

* - the TV input 2 (ARC/eARC) is practically set as an output for audio but the same Input 2 plug can be used as a normal (non-ARC/eARC) input.

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Reply: “ARC/eARC is the "reverse" audio path from the TV to the AVR/soundbar. The "normal" path is audio TO the TV from a source/device connected directly to the TV or through an AVR or soundbar”

Yes, but does your reply indicate that there is a problem getting sound FROM C9 TV TO the soundbar via TV eARC input to the soundbar ARC or eARC output connection?
What problem are you talking about?

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Because I cannot picture any other way...the only eARC on the C9 is an “input”, and the only ARC or eARC on soundbars seem to be “outputs”.
The HDMI port marked as ARC/eARC on TV is both an input for video and audio signal and output for audio for an AVR or soundbar.

The HDMI port marked as ARC/eARC on the AVR or soundbar is both an input for audio signal and output for video for the TV (video/audio pass-through if the soundbar has an extra HDMI port, AVRs have multiple ports anyway).

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And most soundbars don’t seem to have enough inputs (the Sony z9F for example only has 2 inputs) to connect all your external sources, while the C9 does have enough inputs for external sources.
(Not to mention that connecting all external sources to the soundbar rather than the TV would require using the soundbar remote for switching, which, along with the TV remote and the Roku (now apparently needed since the C9 internal apps wont pass HD sound), means we would up to using 3 remotes!
This is where CEC intervenes and the key point of all of this. If CEC works between all the devices you would not need 3 remotes, just one. If CEC does not work properly..., you need all the remotes...

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Also, will the C9 pass through HD sound formats from a Roku connected to one of its inputs through eARC to a soundbar?
It should. Yes.

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Or, God forbid, is the only way to get HD sound from a Roku to get it by connecting the Roku TO the soundbar? Thus forcing us to use the soundbar remote to switch sources?
It might work even this way very well if CEC works as it should..., even in this scenario, with CEC you can control any HDMI device with just one remote regardless of where it is connected in the HDMI chain, as long as the devices (TV, soundbar, AVR) allow for CEC pass-through.

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