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Audio Sync issues with the AppleTV and OLED's (particularly with DV content) have been noted in several other threads. The comments I've seen are all pre eARC.

Curious - is anyone using a C9 and an AppleTV 4K with no sync issues via eARC? If so, what AVR are you using?

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Audio Sync issues with the AppleTV and OLED's......
Please take the discussion to the main C9 owner's thread, this is a thread for consolidating info - as the title states.


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I have the 65 C9 with 7.1 channels LPCM working fine over eARC to a Sony STR-DH790 through a HDFury Dr HDMI 4K. All the channels are shown, detected and played fine in the AVR. How did RTINGS test? I can't find the info on their review, they only say this:
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When connected to a PC, the PC detected the C9 as a stereo device, so it wasn't possible to send 5.1 or 7.1 audio to the TV without bypassing the PC's autodetection system.
Update 05/24/2019: Retested the eARC passthrough with a different PC, and no bypassing was necessary: the PC still detected the C9 as a stereo device, but the bitstreaming ignored that fact, and sent 7.1 TrueHD audio without a problem.
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I have the 65 C9 with 7.1 channels LPCM working fine over eARC to a Sony STR-DH790 through a HDFury Dr HDMI 4K. All the channels are shown, detected and played fine in the AVR. How did RTINGS test? I can't find the info on their review, they only say this:
We have a special thread for eARC issues here - LG C9 eARC Info Thread - please post there your eARC related problems.

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Thanks, I already posted there, but I'm not having issues, just letting you know that the third post of this thread that has the info on the HD Fury not working is outdated. The Dr HDMI 4K does work for passing 7.1 LPCM. Just gotta put eARC to passthrough on the TV and set the Dr HDMI to the highest quality profile (#1 on the UHD side and green LED for full sound).
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Please take the discussion to the main C9 owner's thread, this is a thread for consolidating info - as the title states.


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Hey @dfa973 ,

Now that we know for sure the LG 2020
models will have OLED Motion Pro ([email protected]) what are the chances LG will update the 2019 models like the C9 with such feature? Any thoughts?


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Now that we know for sure the LG 2020
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This is why I dislike the title "official" on the name of threads like these, when it's not a thread started by the actual manufacturer. He has no way of knowing this, since he has nothing to do with LG.
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Now that we know for sure the LG 2020
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If it were possible we would have had it in a firmware update by now so probably no chance.

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As a new user of a 65" C9 that is running it in tandem with an Apple TV 4K (reported audio sync issues) and also the Denon X4400H receiver (reported eARC issues), I am happy to report that I do not have either of the reported problems.

In other words, Apple TV 4K is working just fine, without audio sync issues and the TV is outputting multichannel audio (Atmos, DD, etc.) just fine to my receiver via eARC.
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The new features and differences between the 2019 C9 and the 2020 CX:

  • WOLED panel stack improvements - change from the B-YG/R-B stack to the B-G/R-B stack - allows for more saturated colors and increased color gamut/volume (mainly on the Green) - unconfirmed;
  • DCI-P3 improvements - gamut increase from 99% DCI-P3 to 100% DCI-P3 - unconfirmed, waiting tests;
  • Rec.2020 improvements - gamut increase from <85% to >85% Rec.2020 - unconfirmed, waiting tests;
Do you have sources for these ones? i understand they need to be tested to see if it’s true. I’m trying to make a purchasing decision between the CX and the C9
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Do you have sources for these ones?
From an LGD slide - attached.

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i understand they need to be tested to see if it’s true.
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I’m trying to make a purchasing decision between the CX and the C9
Both are very good. CX is a slightly improved version of the C9. You can't go wrong with any of the models.

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I say this on no official authority, but my guess would be close to 0%.

#1 This feature was pulled very late with respect to the C9
#2 I believe this is being touted as something "new" to the series
#3 If they did go back and add it it would de-incentivize people from buying the CX

This is the *only* reason I'm leaning more towards a CX. If the C9 had it then I'd save a nice chunk on a clearance sale.
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I say this on no official authority, but my guess would be close to 0%.

#1 This feature was pulled very late with respect to the C9
#2 I believe this is being touted as something "new" to the series
#3 If they did go back and add it it would de-incentivize people from buying the CX

This is the *only* reason I'm leaning more towards a CX. If the C9 had it then I'd save a nice chunk on a clearance sale.
Good point. Even if it were technically possible, LGE may have an incentive to keep the feature from upgrading the C9 (especially since they’ll be trying to sell ~twice as many 2020 WOLED TVs as they did 2019s...).
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I say this on no official authority, but my guess would be close to 0%.

#1 This feature was pulled very late with respect to the C9
#2 I believe this is being touted as something "new" to the series
#3 If they did go back and add it it would de-incentivize people from buying the CX

This is the *only* reason I'm leaning more towards a CX. If the C9 had it then I'd save a nice chunk on a clearance sale.
is BFI worth the extra money its going to cost over a c9??? i'm looking at getting a 77" and was set on the c9 till all this talk started coming out. thanks
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is BFI worth the extra money its going to cost over a c9??? i'm looking at getting a 77" and was set on the c9 till all this talk started coming out. thanks
tbh, I do not know. I am not familiar enough with the technology to say. The only reason it speaks to me is because I do play video games, and if I want to play older console titles they'll be @60Hz, I do not know if BFI would be more applicable in these situations or if VRR would take care of it?
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is BFI worth the extra money its going to cost over a c9??? i'm looking at getting a 77" and was set on the c9 till all this talk started coming out. thanks
tbh, I do not know. I am not familiar enough with the technology to say. The only reason it speaks to me is because I do play video games, and if I want to play older console titles they'll be @60Hz, I do not know if BFI would be more applicable in these situations or if VRR would take care of it?
You’ll need to use frame-interpolation in the WOLED to double frame rate to 120Hz then use 50% BFI @ 120Hz to achieve 3.5ms MPRT. We won’t know until first owners report whether LG’s frame interpolation technology introduces noticeable artifacts when gaming or not, but the CX is likely to be a significant step up for gamers over the C9...
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I say this on no official authority, but my guess would be close to 0%.

#1 This feature was pulled very late with respect to the C9
#2 I believe this is being touted as something "new" to the series
#3 If they did go back and add it it would de-incentivize people from buying the CX

This is the *only* reason I'm leaning more towards a CX. If the C9 had it then I'd save a nice chunk on a clearance sale.
is BFI worth the extra money its going to cost over a c9??? i'm looking at getting a 77" and was set on the c9 till all this talk started coming out. thanks
If you are really impatient for a new TV and have to pay the full early-adopter’s tax as soon as they become available, probably not.

But if you can be patient until September when the discounts start to kick in, in won’t cost you much mire than a C9 and by then you’ll know whether there is enough ‘there there’ to justify the modest premium (or further patience until November).

My current view is that the 120Hz BFI on the CX will:

-definitely benefit fast live-action sports viewing

-is likely to benefit fast-action gaming

-may offer some improvements for 24fps Cinema Viewing (but not yet clear whether that will be straightforward or involve some screwing around like an HTPC with HDMI2.1 & VRR support...).

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If you are really impatient for a new TV and have to pay the full early-adopter’s tax as soon as they become available, probably not.

But if you can be patient until September when the discounts start to kick in, in won’t cost you much mire than a C9 and by then you’ll know whether there is enough ‘there there’ to justify the modest premium (or further patience until November).

My current view is that the 120Hz BFI on the CX will:

-definitely benefit fast live-action sports viewing

-is likely to benefit fast-action gaming

-may offer some improvements for 24fps Cinema Viewing (but not yet clear whether that will be straightforward or involve some screwing around like an HTPC with HDMI2.1 & VRR support...).
I'm a noob with TV's, AVR's, and all that but I just bought a 55C9 and have some clarification regarding audio decoding.


From what I know about bitstream and LPCM, the source device controls that audio setting, right? If so, why does the TV itself have a setting for the 4 HDMI Inputs where you can choose between bitstream and PCM? What happens if I set my source device to PCM and the TV HDMI Input to bitstream? Do they have to always match?
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I'm a noob with TV's, AVR's, and all that but I just bought a 55C9 and have some clarification regarding audio decoding.
Please take the discussion to the main C9 owner's thread, this is a thread for consolidating info - as the title states.


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Please take the discussion to the main C9 owner's thread, this is a thread for consolidating info - as the title states.


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Just had my C9 65 delivered today. Originally following guidance I was aiming at Z9F or X950G but always had the C9 in the back of my head, well the five hundred dollar drop meant only a twenty percent up jump from LED to OLED.


Here is my odd issue, the remote turns the TV on just fine but will not turn it off. I can voice command it off. I will try to pair it again to see if it clears.



Also, is there a post with best values; not looking for color correction values; for the features of the TV. I know the HDTV Test video has suggestions for some settings but was curious what local opinions were




edit: I think the power issue is because if a device is connected and powered the TV will not let the power button turn the TV off. Need to figure out how to disable that.

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I'd like to give a BIG thank you for the info here! Based on what I've read I bought a Denon X1600H, which works quite well!

I might have a little thing to add: for those who like to use a Shield TV via their C9 using the Magic Remote (So: Shield -> C9 -> AVR), you have to disable 'automatic device detection' under Connection -> HDMI Device setting. (and of course you need Simplink (CEC) enabled) Otherwise the Magic Remote will NOT control the Shield TV.
Shout out to a user on the LG community website who posted this little nugget there!

This is not necessary when using C9 -> AVR <- Shield, but the CEC power functions where not really reliable that way. That might well be a Shield TV thing; it didn't do wonders when hooked up to my Onkyo AVR neither.
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.....you have to disable 'automatic device detection' under Connection -> HDMI Device setting. (and of course you need Simplink (CEC) enabled) Otherwise the Magic Remote will NOT control the Shield TV.
There is no need to disable the "Automatic Device Detection" feature if you set up the Shield as "Other box" - CEC should work just fine that way.
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Thansk dfa for all this info. Have you come across anything indicating the algorithm modifications for panel dimming are related to ASBL? And if so, is there anything indicating this would be ported to the C9 as well?
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And if so, is there anything indicating this would be ported to the C9 as well?
LGE did not mention anything about that.
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Firmware version 04.71.10 was officially released on 2020-01-31 on the Korean LG website for the Korean models.
According to the release notes some WiFi related problems were fixed:
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ⓘ Wi-Fi 간헐적 검색 안됨 이슈 대응(04.71.10)
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Wi-Fi Intermittent No Detection Issue Response (04.71.10)
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