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Sony A9G, A9F or LG C9 for mostly gaming?

Excited to have the green light to get a new 65 inch OLED this fall. It will mostly be used for gaming and HDR TV and movies. My Sony 939 will finally make the trip to the bedroom.

But mostly gaming, generally at night. All 3 are in my price range, just want the best set for at least the next 3 years.

I know the C9 has the best input lag but do the Sony game modes lag that far behind? I do also like me some NFL football so motion blur is also a consideration. Thx in advance all.

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Excited to have the green light to get a new 65 inch OLED this fall. It will mostly be used for gaming and HDR TV and movies. My Sony 939 will finally make the trip to the bedroom.



But mostly gaming, generally at night. All 3 are in my price range, just want the best set for at least the next 3 years.



I know the C9 has th best input lag but do the Sony game modes lag that far behind. I do also like me some NFL football so motion blur is also a consideration. Thx in advance all.


I forgot his name he is a professional calibrator and he recently had a tv shootout. Sony was rated as having the best motion. Lg and Panasonic had the best tv picture over all

Sony is the best if motion is the main focus


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LG will have the fastest lag response, but Sony is still rather great. Not sure if anyone can really tell a difference between 13ms and 25ms. A couple years ago, 25ms was considered gold. Maybe if you are a professional gamer...lots of people use sony for gaming. Although LG has HDMI 2.1 and VRR, if that matters to you.

LG also has nice price advantage, but appears to have more quality control issues / lottery panel and burn in risk.

Sony will have better motion and processing, but unclear in real world if people can notice.

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Excited to have the green light to get a new 65 inch OLED this fall. It will mostly be used for gaming and HDR TV and movies. My Sony 939 will finally make the trip to the bedroom.



But mostly gaming, generally at night. All 3 are in my price range, just want the best set for at least the next 3 years.



I know the C9 has th best input lag but do the Sony game modes lag that far behind. I do also like me some NFL football so motion blur is also a consideration. Thx in advance all.
If you're planning on gaming then it's a no brainer to get the LG. Lower input lag is significant honestly.

Not only that the LG supports more HDR formats as well as has HDMI 2.1 so it'll be ready for the next Xbox and ps5 where as the Sony will not be.

Difference in motion quality is small if anything really. This is all true assuming you're going with a 2019 LG C9 which is a perfect recommendation for your described viewing habits.
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If you're planning on gaming then it's a no brainer to get the LG. Lower input lag is significant honestly.

Not only that the LG supports more HDR formats as well as has HDMI 2.1 so it'll be ready for the next Xbox and ps5 where as the Sony will not be.

Difference in motion quality is small if anything really. This is all true assuming you're going with a 2019 LG C9 which is a perfect recommendation for your described viewing habits.
Thx. Was pretty well set on Sony but with most things being equal, LG seems the way to go, and yes, would be the 2109 C9. How specifically will LG be ahead of the curve with new ps5 (which I plan to get day 1). Maybe more HDR formats in the future?

How significant are the Lg panel issues and quality control for the everyday user? Will continue my research... My buy day is likely Black Friday.

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Thx. Was pretty well set on Sony but with most things being equal, LG seems the way to go, and yes, would be the 2109 C9. How specifically will LG be ahead of the curve with new ps5 (which I plan to get day 1). Maybe more HDR formats in the future?



How significant are the Lg panel issues and quality control for the everyday user? Will continue my research... My buy day is likely Black Friday.
There's really good deals on OLEDs right now honestly I don't know that you'll see them go much lower.

As far as why it will be ready for the PS5 is because it supports HDMI 2.1 which has VRR support, as well as ALLM. It's also theoretically capable of doing 4k 120hz.

The Sony has no HDMI 2.1 ports so it's essentially DoA being that it's missing integral tech for the upcoming generation. If I were you I wouldn't even consider the Sony for this reason alone with your needs.
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LG will have the fastest lag response, but Sony is still rather great. Not sure if anyone can really tell a difference between 13ms and 25ms. A couple years ago, 25ms was considered gold. Maybe if you are a professional gamer...lots of people use sony for gaming. Although LG has HDMI 2.1 and VRR, if that matters to you.

LG also has nice price advantage, but appears to have more quality control issues / lottery panel and burn in risk.

Sony will have better motion and processing, but unclear in real world if people can notice.
I would say 25ms to 13ms is definitely noticeable. Now sub 13ms you'd be hard-pressed to tell a difference.

As far as those features they are pivitol for the next generation when it comes to gaming. I don't know that panels are any better or worse than Sonys as it wouldn't make much sense for LG to give their competitor the best of their panels.

Sony processing is definitely nice but the associated input lag that correlates with it is not for someone that wants to enjoy gaming. Burn in risk should be identical as they're the same panels used and manufactured by LG.
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I would say 25ms to 13ms is definitely noticeable. Now sub 13ms you'd be hard-pressed to tell a difference.

As far as those features they are pivitol for the next generation when it comes to gaming. I don't know that panels are any better or worse than Sonys as it wouldn't make much sense for LG to give their competitor the best of their panels.

Sony processing is definitely nice but the associated input lag that correlates with it is not for someone that wants to enjoy gaming. Burn in risk should be identical as they're the same panels used and manufactured by LG.
I don't think they're pivotal, if frames re stable. Like I said, I don't think it's noticeable. So many gamers use sony too.

Lots of layers in QC, not just panel. There's a reason it's cheaper. Check the burn in thread too.

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I don't think they're pivotal, if frames re stable. Like I said, I don't think it's noticeable. So many gamers use sony too.

Lots of layers in QC, not just panel. There's a reason it's cheaper. Check the burn in thread too.
Are you aware of what VRR actually does? I'd say with what we're in store for next gen it's critical.

As far as the burn in thread I'd say that it's more of product of a cheaper ticket price and far more units sold by LG as a result - of course you'd see more LGs there in that regard.

Yes people can game on the Sony - no ones disputing that - they are however disputing the gaming experience itself across the two which the more responsive display by nearly two entire frames of input lag wins undoubtedly.
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LG will have the fastest lag response, but Sony is still rather great. Not sure if anyone can really tell a difference between 13ms and 25ms.
In almost any first-person game, and in any racing game, you can. And the difference grows to 6 ms vs 20-27 ms if you consider the 120 Hz mode.

As for the advantages that Sony offers - better upscaling and motion processing - they will be disabled in game mode anyway.
Regarding BI, both have the same burn-in risk. They are the same panels.

Also, one important difference is that, as long as you set the input icon to PC, LG will offer low lag in every mode.
So you're not stuck with one mode for every game, you can use every SDR mode and every HDR mode to tweak the settings as you like them. I find it quite important, because games definitely don't all call for the same exact settings.
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If you're planning on gaming then it's a no brainer to get the LG. Lower input lag is significant honestly.

Not only that the LG supports more HDR formats as well as has HDMI 2.1 so it'll be ready for the next Xbox and ps5 where as the Sony will not be.

Difference in motion quality is small if anything really. This is all true assuming you're going with a 2019 LG C9 which is a perfect recommendation for your described viewing habits.
Who told you LG supports more hdr formats? You must be thinking Panasonic. LG supports the same hdr formats as Sony - hdr10, Dolby and hlg. Panasonic is the only universal hdr format TV currently but if you're in America it's not an option .


To answer the O.p. question, for a gaming oriented TV between a9g, a9f and c9, the c9 would be a better choice.
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Who told you LG supports more hdr formats? You must be thinking Panasonic. LG supports the same hdr formats as Sony - hdr10, Dolby and hlg. Panasonic is the only universal hdr format TV currently but if you're in America it's not an option .


To answer the O.p. question, for a gaming oriented TV between a9g, a9f and c9, the c9 would be a better choice.
Oh my mistake - I was unaware of that. But yes the LG is the no brainer choice for input lag and gaming features.
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