Originally Posted by BillP
Cam, this is (at least) the 2nd thread where you have argued against the concept of panel binning/sorting (or whatever you want to call it) by LG. Here are the facts.
1. A well respected, trusted calibrator who frequents this forum has clearly stated that he has inside information, and that panel binning by LG does occur, with the best panels in the US going to the higher end models of LG and Sony.
2. Another well respected calibrator has supported that concept based on seeing/calibrating HUNDREDS of displays (a much larger sample size than you or I have seen).
3. Now Rysa has stated he has heard the same information from an LG source, confirming #1
4. Neither you nor I are in any position to know whether LG does or does not do this.
Based on these reputable sources, I have no reason to doubt that LG does in fact do this. That does not mean that every LG E9 or Sony A9G will have a perfect panel, or that every C9 will have a bad panel. And you are correct that the C9 and E9 and W9 have the same panel and the same processor, and therefore should have the same PQ. But IMO what this means is that the panel lottery is somewhat skewed, and you have a higher chance of uniformity issues with a C9 than with an E9.
Ok so just that we are clear. Topics cross pollinate threads all the time, so my response here is nothing out of the ordinary.
1. I know who I went back and forth with, it was Jrref. It's ok to disagree with these guys, doesnt make me wrong...In fact I wasn't the only member who disagreed with him, so do a search over in the C9 thread to look over that whole discussion.
2. You say another member has done thousands and supports that claim...who is it, and where is the data? How many C series sets are calibrated vs the others...if all things remain even then yes I can see the argument.
3. If you want to believe what Rhys says, that's fine I have absolutely no problem with that, however, do you know that member personally, not trying to be rude, but your putting a lot of stock in saying he confirmed what other calibrators have said...what evidence other than I heard it from someone else. If hearing it is all you need in this circumstance then that's where you and I differ.
4. I'm repeating here exactly what you said, neither you nor I know exactly what LG does, and I never pretended to.
5. I have nothing but respect for the professionals calibrators on here, however they all have their own personal bias towards certain brands...in fact one of those respected calibrators had some serious issues with the LG winning the Euro shootout...again you can search this.
If you want to believe that your A9G has a binned panel, then I'm happy for you, but their is nothing out their saying 100% certain that it is. What I find telling is, why are only a few on AVS privy to this inside information and major review sites not? These companies are in the business of making money, in the past it's been also mentioned that these binned panels are "brighter" why not milk this and make money out it? Has the A9G consistently measured higher brightness than the C9? Does the A9G have the same panel as the W? How do they even do this???
I have not been coy about this, if I'm proven wrong, then I'll eat crow. Folks on here throw words around like "facts" but in reality what we aee here is simply anecdotal, that's a fact. Saying I heard from so and so to me isnt enough, becuase in the end I dont trust people with my money like that, and neither should other folks imo.
I want to believe that panels are pre selected for higher end models, but unless we have some solid proof, which WE dont btw...them I remain skeptical.