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post #1 of 21 Old 01-20-2020, 07:38 AM - Thread Starter
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Panasonic - Sony - LG OLED TV Dilemma

Hey guys,

Saturday night was a bad night for me, ordered the fights, buddies are over, got a huge spread going. First fight of the night just before its about to get going my Epson 5030UB Projector bit the dust.... The bulb popped in the projector..... Over 15 years of using projectors this is the first time I've ever had issues especially with an exploding bulb....

Safe to say I am pretty pissed off. And I am finding it very difficult to cope.... Like suicidal...

Anyways, I've got a dilemma. What do I do? I watch a lot and I mean a lot of TV and movies. I pride myself on having a big screen but I am probably more about image quality, color reproduction and clarity. I know I know, but you you were using a 2400 lumen bulb projector. Which is why I am writing this.

Yesterday I headed over to Visions just to see stuff in person. Wanted to see an LG HU80KA but they didn't have one set up. So I sat infront of a QLED Samsung 82" and the color just bothered me. Don't get me wrong it was awesome, but it just didn't pop at me. Then they had a Sony, Panasonic and an LG setup side by side by side. And I was blown away by the color, picture clarity just went wow. The models in questions:

Panasonic TC65GZ1000
Sony XBR65Z9F
LG OLED65C9

Now, they had a demo playing with a bull that bounces from one screen to the next. And from what I could see the Panasonic had the best picture and quality out of the 3. I also found the Panasonic image to be sharper and had less judder/tearing compared to the LG and Sony. Strange as from my research they all using the same panel. The LG of course has HDMI 2.1, but its also a $1000 more then the other 2.

Basically I am coming from a 120" Epson 2400 LUMEN bulb projector down to a Panasonic TC65GZ1000. Am I making the right decision or should I just go with an LG HU80KA? Does anyone have any experience with the Panasonic? I know the rule of thumb is when buying a TV its Sony, Samsung and LG, but from what I am reading Panasonic is now up there as well.

Or am I just crazy and in denial due to me being depressed over the bulb exploding???
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Hey guys,

Saturday night was a bad night for me, ordered the fights, buddies are over, got a huge spread going. First fight of the night just before its about to get going my Epson 5030UB Projector bit the dust.... The bulb popped in the projector..... Over 15 years of using projectors this is the first time I've ever had issues especially with an exploding bulb....

Safe to say I am pretty pissed off. And I am finding it very difficult to cope.... Like suicidal...

Anyways, I've got a dilemma. What do I do? I watch a lot and I mean a lot of TV and movies. I pride myself on having a big screen but I am probably more about image quality, color reproduction and clarity. I know I know, but you you were using a 2400 lumen bulb projector. Which is why I am writing this.

Yesterday I headed over to Visions just to see stuff in person. Wanted to see an LG HU80KA but they didn't have one set up. So I sat infront of a QLED Samsung 82" and the color just bothered me. Don't get me wrong it was awesome, but it just didn't pop at me. Then they had a Sony, Panasonic and an LG setup side by side by side. And I was blown away by the color, picture clarity just went wow. The models in questions:

Panasonic TC65GZ1000
Sony XBR65Z9F
LG OLED65C9

Now, they had a demo playing with a bull that bounces from one screen to the next. And from what I could see the Panasonic had the best picture and quality out of the 3. I also found the Panasonic image to be sharper and had less judder/tearing compared to the LG and Sony. Strange as from my research they all using the same panel. The LG of course has HDMI 2.1, but its also a $1000 more then the other 2.

Basically I am coming from a 120" Epson 2400 LUMEN bulb projector down to a Panasonic TC65GZ1000. Am I making the right decision or should I just go with an LG HU80KA? Does anyone have any experience with the Panasonic? I know the rule of thumb is when buying a TV its Sony, Samsung and LG, but from what I am reading Panasonic is now up there as well.

Or am I just crazy and in denial due to me being depressed over the bulb exploding???
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What Samsung model did you look at?.....Color POP has NEVER been an issue on a higher end Samsung..

On the OLEDs...why are you not looking at the larger sizes they come in ..after having come a 120 in screen I cant imagine going to a 65" ( or perhaps anything much smaller than the 120") is going to be a shocker for you

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a couple of questions
What Samsung model did you look at?.....Color POP has NEVER been an issue on a higher end Samsung..

On the OLEDs...why are you not looking at the larger sizes they come in ..after having come a 120 in screen I cant imagine going to a 65" ( or perhaps anything much smaller than the 120") is going to be a shocker for you

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There is nothing called 'POP', it's not a technical term rather a coined term by people. And it is euphemism for 'overly saturated, inaccurate colors'. And surely samsung tv's get you that.
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a couple of questions
What Samsung model did you look at?.....Color POP has NEVER been an issue on a higher end Samsung..

On the OLEDs...why are you not looking at the larger sizes they come in ..after having come a 120 in screen I cant imagine going to a 65" ( or perhaps anything much smaller than the 120") is going to be a shocker for you

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I was looking at the Samsung QN82Q70.

As for not looking at larger sizes the 77" Panasonic is $10000. Right now I am in the $3000 range ish, maybe a little wiggle room.

Again I can get the LG HU80KA for the same price, maybe cheaper as I was told they can give me a better deal. But I dunno.
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There is nothing called 'POP', it's not a technical term rather a coined term by people. And it is euphemism for 'overly saturated, inaccurate colors'. And surely samsung tv's get you that.
Whatever you choose to call it...it seems that we can agree that high end Samsung Tv's have never been lacking in it

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I was looking at the Samsung QN82Q70.

As for not looking at larger sizes the 77" Panasonic is $10000. Right now I am in the $3000 range ish, maybe a little wiggle room.

Again I can get the LG HU80KA for the same price, maybe cheaper as I was told they can give me a better deal. But I dunno.
Not sure where you are? Perhaps not in the United States

I know you can get the Samsung Q80 in an 82" in about your price range
I have also seen an LG 77" OLED for about $600 more than you say your budget is

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I'm in Canada.

As far as I have found those are the options. As soon as I move up oled its $5000 more.
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I'm surprised nobody corrected you - the Sony XBR65Z9F is an LCD, not an OLED.
Every year in every shoot-out, the OLEDs beat out the LCDs, including the Samsung. IMO, the Panny, LG, and Sony (A9G) OLEDs are the best display available for movies, especially in dark, light-controlled rooms. Based on your budget, the 77" LG C9 (or B9 if you're strapped on budget) is the best option, IMO.

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I'm in Canada.

As far as I have found those are the options. As soon as I move up oled its $5000 more.
That seems overpriced. If you shop around, including online authorized dealers, you should be able to get a 77" LG for less than that.

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GZ1000 is not available in 77" but its OOTB picture looks a little better than other brands because of the better fine tuning done by panasonic. Otherwise oleds are quite similar- same panels but different processing. The Z9F is a sony lcd, its picture will not stack up to an oled. Sony's oled is A9G or A8G. You can get the LG C9 or Sony A9G oled in 77", however i suspect since you are used to a 120" screen on an epson projector, you'll find it hard to get accustomed to a smaller 77" screen. Projector to tv downgrades are never 'easy'.
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Dammit you guys, I thought you would give me positive encouragement and now I am second guessing everything:

82" QLED
77" OLED
LG Laser Projector

1st world problems.

So basically LG HU80KA is what everyone is saying?
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That seems overpriced. If you shop around, including online authorized dealers, you should be able to get a 77" LG for less than that.
Not in Canada. The cheapest clearance models are around $5000-6000 for a 77" OLED.

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Being "old school" and having a Dad that filmed and projected home movies when we were kids (I still have his 8mm, Super8mm and a 16mm projectors and have at least two spare bulbs for each right now) the one thing I learned is if your projector relies on a light bulb then you ALWAYS have a spare laying around even if it has never quit on you before.

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Go with LG if you're a hardcore gamer. If you want the best movie presentation and accurate colors, go with Panasonic or Sony. Just keep in mind for 24p content the Panasonic only supports 60hz or 120hz playback, the Sony supports 48hz which is more cinema accurate.

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[QUOTE=Hapatingjaky;59126810]Dammit you guys, I thought you would give me positive encouragement and now I am second guessing everything:

82" QLED
77" OLED
LG Laser Projector

1st world problems.

Well, the problem lies in that nobody can get in YOUR head to tell your exact priorities and strongest likes ! Is size a priority over “punchy?”
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Dammit you guys, I thought you would give me positive encouragement and now I am second guessing everything:

82" QLED
77" OLED
LG Laser Projector

1st world problems.

So basically LG HU80KA is what everyone is saying?
Its gonna take some getting used to going down to 77. Only Sony and LG currently provide a 77inch oled, their is also an 88inch if you can afford it. Also you will more than likely get the same pq amongst the brands with difference mostly being from processing. LG Oleds arent for just gaming, thats a ridiculous assumption, youll get just as good colors and accuracy as the other models, and with calibration they would almost certainly look very similar. Any choice you make with Oled is a win win.

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I would never go from a 120" projector to a 65" or 77" TV. I would either buy a new bulb if possible or get a new projector.
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I was also wondering why you can't just get a new bulb.

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You are going to want to go 85” or 82” at the absolute minimum or you will likely be very disappointed with the size. The Sony 900f would be a good option for your budget.
OLEDs are awesome but the 77” size just isn’t big enough for a lot of situations unfortunately.
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I would get either the Sony 85” 900f or the 75”z9f. You’re used to a projector so you won’t have to have the absolute best PQ, i.e OLED

Regarding Panasonic they have always been a premium brand. IMO, probably the most reliable of any brand I’ve every had or the ones mentioned in this thread. So if youre going OLED get the Panny and don’t look back.

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I have a 77" now and can't imagine downsizing much less staying at the current size if/when I upgrade again.
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Have had a bunch of the higher end Samsungs in the past, out of the box colors are not good, once you get it home and adjust white balance they begin to shine, having said that it wont shine like oled. Just that Samsung store colors are not a good representation due to white balance out of the box.
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