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Hi all - I currently own a Samsung Q90R and thinking of making the jump to the CX. I have a soundbar on my tv unit though and the CX looks fairly low - what is the height from the surface of the unit to the frame of the TV? May need to raise the TV slightly!

You will need to raise the tv for sure for a sound bar. I also went from the Q90R to the CX. Main reason I jumped was the extra gaming features, but moreover because Samsung really destroyed the pq in its game mode by its poor use of local dimming in that mode. Gaming with those elevated black levels in game mode and having essentially a washed out image really killed it for me. I couldn’t be happier gaming on the OLED now. That said I thought I’d only game on the OLED but still watch movies on the Q90R because of its peak brightness and overall stellar LD performance (outside of game mode), but boy was I wrong. While the CX doesn’t get nearly as bright, the infinite contrast & perceived brightness of this OLED is something to behold. I absolutely don’t think I can go back to traditional LCD/LED. Maybe microLED in the future, we will see.


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Yikes alright I’m sorry I asked about sharpness. Geez
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Not at all, don't be sorry for asking . The problem is really when the wrong information is dragged back up again, or when someone "doubts" the actual facts of the matter which are very simply to check. None of that is helpful. But you were given the correct answer very swiftly and that should have been the end of it. Those posts which were not your fault will now be found in the future when the next person does a search, and it'll happen again for sure.
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At this point I’ve read in various places some think 0 sharpness is accurate while others think 10 is accurate. At this point I don’t know what to believe
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There is new TEST firmware for CX: 03.10.09 from 05.2020 (still not on Korean website but maybe soon will be there with a changelog which is not available (?) yet )

"For OLED models (CX, GX, RX, WX, qX) version 03.10.09.
These firmware is already on the system webOS 5.1.0 and with the code name - japoon."- BING TRANSLATE

Hopefully will be out soon for public.

If someone is willing to test the firmware (according to a comment on the forum: you cannot install the test firmware due to some kind of protection ) , you have links here (Russian forum but the links are from official LG servers) :



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You will need to raise the tv for sure for a sound bar. I also went from the Q90R to the CX. Main reason I jumped was the extra gaming features, but moreover because Samsung really destroyed the pq in its game mode by its poor use of local dimming in that mode. Gaming with those elevated black levels in game mode and having essentially a washed out image really killed it for me. I couldn’t be happier gaming on the OLED now. That said I thought I’d only game on the OLED but still watch movies on the Q90R because of its peak brightness and overall stellar LD performance (outside of game mode), but boy was I wrong. While the CX doesn’t get nearly as bright, the infinite contrast & perceived brightness of this OLED is something to behold. I absolutely don’t think I can go back to traditional LCD/LED. Maybe microLED in the future, we will see.


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Exact same experience here as well, though I came from a lesser qled (q8fn)


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2. I said that the "issue" could be avoided in virtually any scenario (yes, virtually, not all, you are correct) by setting the 'player' to pcm audio which, as I understand it, the cx can receive.i don't use a pc for movie playback, but would assume that any pc can be set to pcm 2.0 output via hdmi. Same for Xbox, Playstation, and virtually any Bluray player. Aside from local network streaming apps which may/may not have pcm capability, this is a non-issue for everyone else.
So does the X series now correctly handle multichannel PCM through eARC?


This would solve pretty much all formats, for HTPC users. Except for DTS:X.
And the fact that a sound format exists, which is not manageable in any way through eARC... well, in my opinion it kind of invalidates the whole eARC concept.

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Not at all, don't be sorry for asking . The problem is really when the wrong information is dragged back up again, or when someone "doubts" the actual facts of the matter which are very simply to check. None of that is helpful. But you were given the correct answer very swiftly and that should have been the end of it. Those posts which were not your fault will now be found in the future when the next person does a search, and it'll happen again for sure.
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There is new TEST firmware for CX: 03.10.09 from 05.2020 (still not on Korean website but maybe soon will be there with a changelog which is not available (?) yet )

"For OLED models (CX, GX, RX, WX, qX) version 03.10.09.
These firmware is already on the system webOS 5.1.0 and with the code name - japoon."- BING TRANSLATE

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Looks like the improved HDR and DV. SDR looks about the same.

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@jrref , do you have the TEST firmware on your CX?

I'd love to see your A8H/CX Shootout again that you did at Value Electronics last week with the new firmware in the CX to see if LG caught up to Sony on the low luminance and how they implement the BFI. Based on the YouTube video from SpareChange I purchased the A8G from VE. I'm still looking to buy a 77" OLED or possibly an 85" 8K TV for our family room.

Do you know when the new firmware will be released in the US and is this the update you referred to that will come out in June.
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@jrref , do you have the TEST firmware on your CX?

I'd love to see your A8H/CX Shootout again that you did at Value Electronics last week with the new firmware in the CX to see if LG caught up to Sony on the low luminance and how they implement the BFI. Based on the YouTube video from SpareChange I purchased the A8G from VE. I'm still looking to buy a 77" OLED or possibly an 85" 8K TV for our family room.

Do you know when the new firmware will be released in the US and is this the update you referred to that will come out in June.
Yes i tested it and to me, major improvements in HDR and DV. I'm going to watch more content tonight because it looked too good to be true

I don't know if this is the final firmware that's supposed to be released some time in June but i'm sure it's part of it.

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Yes i tested it and to me, major improvements in HDR and DV. I'm going to watch more content tonight because it looked too good to be true

I don't know if this is the final firmware that's supposed to be released some time in June but i'm sure it's part of it.
Does it fix the raised blacks in DV?
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So does the X series now correctly handle multichannel PCM through eARC?


This would solve pretty much all formats, for HTPC users. Except for DTS:X.
And the fact that a sound format exists, which is not manageable in any way through eARC... well, in my opinion it kind of invalidates the whole eARC concept.
What about multichannel PCM doesn't work? It's been working for me since I bought the TV about a month ago.
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Yes i tested it and to me, major improvements in HDR and DV. I'm going to watch more content tonight because it looked too good to be true



I don't know if this is the final firmware that's supposed to be released some time in June but i'm sure it's part of it.
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So does the X series now correctly handle multichannel PCM through eARC?


This would solve pretty much all formats, for HTPC users. Except for DTS:X.
And the fact that a sound format exists, which is not manageable in any way through eARC... well, in my opinion it kind of invalidates the whole eARC concept.
Honestly I don't know. I am speaking strictly from a theoretical perspective as I don't have my system setup in a way to test this.

I believe someone mentioned that the lpcm pass through issue is a software bug, whereas the dts blocking is due to a licensing choice to not support the feature. If that is true, hopefully there will be a fix for lpcm soon.

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Yes i tested it and to me, major improvements in HDR and DV. I'm going to watch more content tonight because it looked too good to be true

I don't know if this is the final firmware that's supposed to be released some time in June but i'm sure it's part of it.
will these improvements come to the C9 as well?

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I'd love to see your A8H/CX Shootout again that you did at Value Electronics last week with the new firmware in the CX to see if LG caught up to Sony on the low luminance and how they implement the BFI. Based on the YouTube video from SpareChange I purchased the A8G from VE. I'm still looking to buy a 77" OLED or possibly an 85" 8K TV for our family room.

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Yes i tested it and to me, major improvements in HDR and DV. I'm going to watch more content tonight because it looked too good to be true [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]

I don't know if this is the final firmware that's supposed to be released some time in June but i'm sure it's part of it.
Improved how?
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Then why do they come with 10 as default in pretty much all picture modes?
Most TVs come default with all kinds of video processing. Just because it is default, doesn't mean it is accurate. In this case the value of 0 is accurate. 10 is default, but also adds some sharpening to the image.
Why anyone would watch at TV with sharpness set to zero is beyond me. You’ll be watching a soft, blurry, fuzzy mess of a picture smh. I still don’t get it. Pay thousands for a TV set that comes with all these advanced settings to give you a crisp, clear, smooth picture with depth, but turn ALL of it off and watch a blurry mess of a picture that you could’ve gotten from a budget TCL. Might as well just go to the thrift shop and buy a tube TV. If You’re not using ANY of the features that makes the TV cost thousands, then why buy it? You’re not watching the experience the TV was intended to deliver smh.
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Improved how?
I don't see any raised blacks at all in any PM. HDR and DV look sharper and a little more depth but once it's available you will be able to see for yourself. In my opinion the HDR and DV PQ are better than my on my Sony when placed side by side. I haven't taken any measurements but i didn't see any visual shifts in the CMS.

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I don't see any raised blacks at all in any PM. HDR and DV look sharper and a little more depth but once it's available you will be able to see for yourself. In my opinion the HDR and DV PQ are better than my on my Sony when placed side by side. I haven't taken any measurements but i didn't see any visual shifts in the CMS.
Awesome! Looking forward to it being officially released
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Why anyone would watch at TV with sharpness set to zero is beyond me. You’ll be watching a soft, blurry, fuzzy mess of a picture smh. I still don’t get it. Pay thousands for a TV set that comes with all these advanced settings to give you a crisp, clear, smooth picture with depth, but turn ALL of it off and watch a blurry mess of a picture that you could’ve gotten from a budget TCL. Might as well just go to the thrift shop and buy a tube TV. If You’re not using ANY of the features that makes the TV cost thousands, then why buy it? You’re not watching the experience the TV was intended to deliver smh.
Because some people like a more accurate and true representation of the picture maybe...

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Why anyone would watch at TV with sharpness set to zero is beyond me. You’️ll be watching a soft, blurry, fuzzy mess of a picture smh. I still don’️t get it. Pay thousands for a TV set that comes with all these advanced settings to give you a crisp, clear, smooth picture with depth, but turn ALL of it off and watch a blurry mess of a picture that you could’️ve gotten from a budget TCL. Might as well just go to the thrift shop and buy a tube TV. If You’️re not using ANY of the features that makes the TV cost thousands, then why buy it? You’️re not watching the experience the TV was intended to deliver smh.
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I’m sure the filmmakers intent isn't a blurry mess that looks like it was shot using a potato. These high end TVs look like crap with everything turned off. You want a basic picture, buy a basic TV.
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Improved how?
I don't see any raised blacks at all in any PM. HDR and DV look sharper and a little more depth but once it's available you will be able to see for yourself. In my opinion the HDR and DV PQ are better than my on my Sony when placed side by side. I haven't taken any measurements but i didn't see any visual shifts in the CMS.
Making it hard for me John lol. I was about to go back to the A9G from the GX. Now you’re making me reconsider.
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