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post #31 of 47 Old 04-24-2020, 07:47 AM
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I gave you my reasoning, if the shootouts dont give results with uncalibrated tv's i don't care, the example of samsung and sony i gave was to illustrate that there can be big differences in how an uncalibrated samsung and sony( lcd) compares vs how they both compare in calibrated state. I only care to know how the uncalibrated compare because that's how i'll use the tv and so the shootout results published from comparing calibrated tv's dont hold any value to me.
If you see them giving you useful information (and i think you get your tv's calibrated) then keep following them , i take no problem with it. I havent followed them in the past and dont intend to in the future either, same goes for loudspeakers. Relying on my eyes and ears is how i decide on all my equipment. Thx.
I believe I saw a video where one of the shootouts explained why they only compare calibrated TVs. If you take them uncalibrated then what you are comparing is simply a set of random samples. What one uncalibrated TV is like out of the box has very little to do with what another identical model uncalibrated TV is like out of the box. Now if on the other hand you were to get a sample of 100 of each model and compare them you might start to get an idea what the average one is like from the factory in case one model tends to be more accurate from the factory than another.

Comparing calibrated TVs at least you are comparing something that pretty much all TVs could accomplish if they were calibrated.

Certainly you should not base your TV purchase just on shoot out results but it does provide one more piece of data to consider. How much weight you give it certainly should depend on how the setup of the shootout would compare to your own use case.
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I believe I saw a video where one of the shootouts explained why they only compare calibrated TVs. If you take them uncalibrated then what you are comparing is simply a set of random samples. What one uncalibrated TV is like out of the box has very little to do with what another identical model uncalibrated TV is like out of the box. Now if on the other hand you were to get a sample of 100 of each model and compare them you might start to get an idea what the average one is like from the factory in case one model tends to be more accurate from the factory than another
One model may surely not be exactly the same as another unit of the same model, but on average, sony high end lcd's are more accurate OOTB than samsung qled lcd's. Meaning that in terms of grayscale and color errors, OOTB sony will have an advantage over samsung. Once you calibrate the sony and samsung, then samsung will come a lot closer to sony and it will remain nowhere near the advantage that sony had OOTB.

Among oleds, on average, panasonics have the best color/grayscale accuracy out of the box and slightly better shadow detail compared to other brands. However once you calibrate a panasonic and lg oled and put them side by side, the color/grayscale accuracy advantage panasonic had ootb will hardly remain an advantage any more, same with shadow detail, the lg after calibration will look almost as good with shadow detail.

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I made my comments regarding the CX because I actually did the head to head comparison with the C9, CX and A9G [IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
Sorry, I guess I missed your comparison. I'll do a search. Yours is one the opinions I would absolutely believe.[IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/smile.gif[/IMG]
Sad that we have to play cat-and-mouse in these times. D-Nice, for as much as we proletariat admire and hang onto your gems of knowledge (no, we do! ), wouldn’t it be gracious of you, or the mods, to just copy from the proverbial bowels of the texts...we are here at the bottom of the food chain looking for some scraps from (whenever)...it is not clear to some of us how we can easily pull this review up.
The answer, I suppose, is to NEVER miss a day, even a half-day of entries.
But meanwhile, D-Nice, a simple # reference would have been gracious and appreciated.
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Sad that we have to play cat-and-mouse in these times. D-Nice, for as much as we proletariat admire and hang onto your gems of knowledge (no, we do! ), wouldn’t it be gracious of you, or the mods, to just copy from the proverbial bowels of the texts...we are here at the bottom of the food chain looking for some scraps from (whenever)...it is not clear to some of us how we can easily pull this review up.
The answer, I suppose, is to NEVER miss a day, even a half-day of entries.
But meanwhile, D-Nice, a simple # reference would have been gracious and appreciated.
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Check out the dedicated CX thread.
I don't want to misrepresent his findings, but based on my skimming of that thread, he did not seem to think there was a significant improvement of the CX over the C9, and saw no improvement in motion handling. There were some differing opinions in the thread.
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Sad that we have to play cat-and-mouse in these times. D-Nice, for as much as we proletariat admire and hang onto your gems of knowledge (no, we do! ), wouldn’️t it be gracious of you, or the mods, to just copy from the proverbial bowels of the texts...we are here at the bottom of the food chain looking for some scraps from (whenever)...it is not clear to some of us how we can easily pull this review up.
The answer, I suppose, is to NEVER miss a day, even a half-day of entries.
But meanwhile, D-Nice, a simple # reference would have been gracious and appreciated.
Sad.
Check out the dedicated CX thread.[IMG class=inlineimg]/forum/images/smilies/wink.gif[/IMG]
I don't want to misrepresent his findings, but based on my skimming of that thread, he did not seem to think there was a significant improvement of the CX over the C9, and saw no improvement in motion handling. There were some differing opinions in the thread.
Bill, you are MUCH appreciated, sir, for a nice concise wrap-up. May I say that it is folks such as yourself that do make this a good community; helpful folks.
I have enjoyed your comments through the threads. Thanks, and I hope that you continue on here ! As for me, I THINK I am headed towards a (whenever) SONY A9H (perhaps August/Sept. 2020), with fingers crossed for maybe a smidgen of improvement (at least I’ll likely get my beloved back-lit remote in 2020 out of an A9H).
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It is not the AG9 but if the ag8 is better than the CX I suppose that the ag9 will also be

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It is not the AG9 but if the ag8 is better than the CX I suppose that the ag9 will also be

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Read on another forum that calibrator jrref and Value Electronics will be doing a side by side evaluation and testing of Sony's 2020 A8H against LG's 2020 CX. They will be publishing before and after calibration reports, max. brightness and black level, color accuracy and other measurements as well as their personal observations on the comparisons of how the BFI performs on each TV.
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Read on another forum that calibrator jrref and Value Electronics will be doing a side by side evaluation and testing of Sony's 2020 A8H against LG's 2020 CX. They will be publishing before and after calibration reports, max. brightness and black level, color accuracy and other measurements as well as their personal observations on the comparisons of how the BFI performs on each TV.
I will be doing the same.... really really soon.
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@D-Nice , very excellent! I'm sure many folks want to know how these two bleeding edge OLED TVs compare against each-other.
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@D-Nice , very excellent! I'm sure many folks want to know how these two bleeding edge OLED TVs compare against each-other.
Well, not exactly, I would not think... "apples to apples" as the CX is LG's mainstay level. The competition, albeit not here yet, would be the SONY A9H, or if we retreat to LAST year, then the A9G from last year. Isn't the Sony A8H Sony's drop back (but new) model from a "9 Series?"
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Well, not exactly, I would not think... "apples to apples" as the CX is LG's mainstay level. The competition, albeit not here yet, would be the SONY A9H, or if we retreat to LAST year, then the A9G from last year. Isn't the Sony A8H Sony's drop back (but new) model from a "9 Series?"
The performance should be similar/equal to the A9G but with additional BFI options and possibly a new GUI.
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The performance should be similar/equal to the A9G but with additional BFI options and possibly a new GUI.
Okay, hey thanks D-Nice.
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If you have better money sony oled, lg oled have many problems and the image, construction and sound quality is worse

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Well, not exactly, I would not think... "apples to apples" as the CX is LG's mainstay level. The competition, albeit not here yet, would be the SONY A9H, or if we retreat to LAST year, then the A9G from last year. Isn't the Sony A8H Sony's drop back (but new) model from a "9 Series?"
People get too caught up in the "flagships", the nomenclature, or what year the TV is from. That doesn't mean anything in the OLED world. The actual OLED panel is identical and has been for the past few years. LG has not made any TV that has comprehensively matched or beaten a Sony OLED TV, be it Extreme or Ultimate. Any comparison is fair game and should be made.

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I will be doing the same.... really really soon.
Sorry for bumping this post, but did this comparison from D-Nice ever get posted? I was scanning back through a few different threads but haven't been able to find it.

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Sorry for bumping this post, but did this comparison from D-Nice ever get posted? I was scanning back through a few different threads but haven't been able to find it.
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