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THIS is where I get stuck. While I know that the above is soundly sourced, Vincent did a review of the A9G against the C9 (I think) and he lamented that when he shifted the Sony to DV Bright as suggested he got washed out highlights and such which you could clearly see in the vid. ???
I don't find it to be washed out. There could be various explanations as to Vincent's findings, depending on his settings and associated equipment. For example, if he was judging based on 4k DV discs played on an Oppo 205, there is a known Oppo bug where you have to set the DV output to "player-led" rather than "auto." I trust D-Nice's findings that DV Bright is the optimal way to go when watching DV material through an HDMI connection.
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I haven’t had that experience in the A9g so far , I do think Dv is less impactful on the Sony but still looks great . On the hdr10 side I prefer the Sony presentation much more balanced and natural


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Soooo .... which is the most accurate to the source?
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Soooo .... which is the most accurate to the source?

I don’t find the dv on the Sony to be garish or anything like that . Not sure any hdr on an oled can be presented accurate to the source due to tone mapping but I think the Sony does a nice job . The lg hdr has a more processed look to it imo


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why do you find dv less impactful? apl, highlights?

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why do you find dv less impactful? apl, highlights?

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I have noticed this 'only' when seeing lg or panasonic side by side to a sony. independently viewed, i find no problem with the apl/brightness in a dark room using dolby vision bright on the sony a9g. apparently, unlike lg and panasonic that can do tv led dolby vision (tv hardware processes the dolby vision), sony oleds cannot and only use player led dolby vision (source device does the dolby vision processing).

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I have noticed this 'only' when seeing lg or panasonic side by side to a sony. independently viewed, i find no problem with the apl/brightness in a dark room using dolby vision bright on the sony a9g. apparently, unlike lg and panasonic that can do tv led dolby vision (tv hardware processes the dolby vision), sony oleds cannot and only use player led dolby vision (source device does the dolby vision processing).

I had a c8 for over a year so familiar with lots of different material , in no way I am saying the dv on the Sony is bad it’s just different. Hdr 10 is the other way around imo .


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hdr10 on a9g is helped a lot by sony's always on dynamic tone mapping which works great, the highlights in hdr10 are more impactful than lg while maintaining good overall brightness. balanced presentation is the right word.
with DV, you'd probably agree it's come a long way from the drab DV days of the A1/AIE and A8F.

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hdr10 on a9g is helped a lot by sony's always on dynamic tone mapping which works great, the highlights in hdr10 are more impactful than lg while maintaining good overall brightness. balanced presentation is the right word.
with DV, you'd probably agree it's come a long way from the drab DV days of the A1/AIE and A8F.

Yes it is improved from the A8F which I also owned , the hdr10 with dynamic tone mapping on was artificial looking on the C8 imo


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That extra real estate with 77” makes a huge difference. The price difference between sizes SUCKS though. But I wouldn’t say get a larger TV if it’s picture quality will be a noticeable downgrade from a 65” you have your eye on. Only go up in size of the PQ is equal or better than the 65”. And for Sony you have to use Dolby Vision Bright instead of Dolby Vision dark even though they say Dark is the most accurate. I think DV bright looks better personally.
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P.S. I forgot, another Huge deal breaker for me, NO HBO GO APP ON THE 2020 LG! You have to use Apple TV and buy a hbo now subscription smh
I don't get why people are so enamored of the built-in apps.

Within three to four years the TV app will fall behind what is available on streaming boxes and you'll end up plugging a Roku/AppleTV/other box in anyway.
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I don't get why people are so enamored of the built-in apps.

Within three to four years the TV app will fall behind what is available on streaming boxes and you'll end up plugging a Roku/AppleTV/other box in anyway.
Agreed streaming boxes have everything you need these days.

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P.S. I forgot, another Huge deal breaker for me, NO HBO GO APP ON THE 2020 LG! You have to use Apple TV and buy a hbo now subscription smh
I don't get why people are so enamored of the built-in apps.

Within three to four years the TV app will fall behind what is available on streaming boxes and you'll end up plugging a Roku/AppleTV/other box in anyway.
I personally find the picture quality when using native built in apps to be better. The TV does all the processing.
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I don't get why people are so enamored of the built-in apps.
Not sure what's wrong with them either. They are convenient to use. Sometimes I use the A9G's built-in apps, and sometimes I use my Roku. I find PQ to be excellent either way.

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