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Sizes available: 55" (OLED55-H1) / 65" (OLED65-H1)
MSRP: $1300 / $2000
Release date: Fall (Sept-Nov; 9/13/2020 per BestBuy)
OS: SmartCast 4.0

Spec sheets:
-OLED55-H1: Vizio, BestBuy
-OLED65-H1: Vizio, BestBuy

HDMI 2.1 features:
-Bandwidth: 48 Gbps (HDMI ports 2/3)
-4k120: Yes
-VRR: Yes (40-120 Hz)
-ALLM: Yes
-eARC: Yes (HDMI port 1)

HDR features:
-Dolby Vision: Yes
-HDR 10+: Yes
-HDR 10: Yes
-HLG: Yes
-HDR peak brightness: 800 nits

Other gaming features:
-2160p120 at full chroma 12-bit: ? (theoretically possible on HDMI ports 2/3)
-1440p120: ?
-AMD FreeSync: Yes
-Gsync compatible: Yes (unofficial)
-HGiG mode: ?

Other video features:
-ATSC 3.0 tuner: ?
-BFI: ?
-UHD Alliance Filmmaker Mode: ?

Other audio features:
-Dolby Atmos: ? (spec sheet doesn't indicate support for this)
-DTS Virtual:X: Yes
-Separate matching 5.1.4 Elevate soundbar (MSRP $1000, BestBuy), which connects to the bottom of the OLED and supports 2 HDMI 2.1 ports with "4kHDR" passthrough + 1 HDMI port with eARC + Dolby Atmos + DTS:X.
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Good Lord I'd like to see prices. I'm looking forward to seeing them.

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One thing I can likely predict, it'll probably be a little bit cheaper than the LG BX OLED (their lowest end OLED TV of the year) that's for sure.

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Just spoke with vizio and they confirmed their new TV's are releasing on June 30th
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My two cents it might be slightly cheaper but not by much remember that everyone buys their OLED panels from LG display. The difference in these OLED TVs is the processing and Vizio processing is not up to the level of a Sony or LG.
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We're only 7 days away from being released, I hope Vizio keeps their promise. Though there should've went live on Amazon and Best Buy by now to pre-order.
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We're only 7 days away from being released, I hope Vizio keeps their promise. Though there should've went live on Amazon and Best Buy by now to pre-order.
That will probably happen on the 30th. Sometimes, the manufacturer says no to this idea.

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I've been holding out to buy an OLED tv until after I could see how good Vizio could do with their first OLED. I originally was going to buy the CX, but the 40GB HDMI 2.1 didn't sit well, Sony didn't push 2.1 all that well either, so I'm curious to see if Vizio will have full bandwidth. I purchased my first Vizio in 2016 the P series and I have enjoyed it and a media room tv and I still can't believe Vizio still updates the OS, most give you a year or two. With the new PS5 and Xbox Series X arriving this holiday I want OLED for a gaming room tv.
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@GriffinCorp I wouldn't hold my breath on Vizio having full 48gbps HDMI 2.1 neither. The only benefit you'll gain with 48gbps is 4K 120hz at 12-bit color and 8K 60hz at 12-bit color. Since there are zero consumer 12-bit TVs right now, I wouldn't worry too much about not having 48gbps HDMI 2.1. It's likely that both PS5 and Xbox Series X will be 40gbps as well.
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@GriffinCorp I wouldn't hold my breath on Vizio having full 48gbps HDMI 2.1 neither. The only benefit you'll gain with 48gbps is 4K 120hz at 12-bit color and 8K 60hz at 12-bit color. Since there are zero consumer 12-bit TVs right now, I wouldn't worry too much about not having 48gbps HDMI 2.1. It's likely that both PS5 and Xbox Series X will be 40gbps as well.
I wish it didn't feel like they cut corners with this years models. Last year had it. I still don't understand why no one has pushed for 12 bit panels. I only want this tv to hold me over until micro LED, which is YEARS away, I know.
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Just spoke with vizio and they confirmed their new TV's are releasing on June 30th
TY, I hope the prices are good and they release the tv on June-30 ....hope the 85" is good...
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I would be suprised if they have more than 1 HDMI 2.1 port. I had the 2015 Vizio M and hated that just one HDMI 2.0 was on it.

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I wish it didn't feel like they cut corners with this years models. Last year had it. I still don't understand why no one has pushed for 12 bit panels. I only want this tv to hold me over until micro LED, which is YEARS away, I know.
C9 had it because 2019 models all got HDMI 2.1. Research is why it is 40 for 2020 along with what seems to be the trend in the industry Denon reciever with only 1 HDMI 2.1 on it is only 40Gbps that is releasing around 15 July.

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Update on Vizio's site. Show's OLED price starting at $1299.99
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Update on Vizio's site. Show's OLED price starting at $1299.99
Links aren't live yet, but dang, that is some aggressive pricing.
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$1300 is a good starting price for a 55". That means it should slip to under a grand after price drops late in the year.
The big question that remains, which would be answered by a review, has vizio improved their processing enough to better handle gradient banding and upscaling of low quality content, two very common complaints with their lcd's in the lcd section here.

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Looks like I was right after all, it is indeed cheaper than LG's entry-level OLED the BX.

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Boy 1,999 for the 65 inch. You get that on a good black Friday sale and maybe get it for under 1,500. That's doable, I can justify that for an OLED.

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$1300 is a good starting price for a 55". That means it should slip to under a grand after price drops late in the year.
The big question that remains, which would be answered by a review, has vizio improved their processing enough to better handle gradient banding and upscaling of low quality content, two very common complaints with their lcd's in the lcd section here.
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Boy 1,999 for the 65 inch. You get that on a good black Friday sale and maybe get it for under 1,500. That's doable, I can justify that for an OLED.

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The Vizio OLEDs are not coming out now, they are for later in the year, so can't count on such steep cuts. It looks like they already priced them at near holiday prices due to their release date, we'll have to wait and see. Also their 2.1 ports are 48Gbps, not 40.
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The Vizio OLEDs are not coming out now, they are for later in the year, so can't count on such steep cuts. It looks like they already priced them at near holiday prices due to their release date, we'll have to wait and see. Also their 2.1 ports are 48Gbps, not 40.
Oh I didn't read the story. I just knew that was release day for the new Vizio's and then I saw the price of the OLED. Then this is not a good bargain because last black Friday the entry level LG OLED was I want to say 1,700 bucks? Maybe even lower?

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Oh I didn't read the story. I just knew that was release day for the new Vizio's and then I saw the price of the OLED. Then this is not a good bargain because last black Friday the entry level LG OLED was I want to say 1,700 bucks? Maybe even lower?

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Yeah the OLEDs only have a "Fall" release date. So that could be anytime between September to end of November. Hopefully it's September so they get some time at launch prices and then go down as we near BF and it puts some pricing pressure on LG. From Vincent's video it appears these may carry all the way through 2021, which would mean we could have some really great prices on OLEDs next year.

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Yep so their lineup only has 2 HDMI 2.1 ports

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I can't wait for the reviews to come out. I know we have to wait longer but having a couple HDMI 2.1's and 1,299 starting price for the 55" model sounds great.
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The articles I’ve read list 800 nits peak brightness, but I imagine that will be in a Vivid mode. I will be curious to see what the numbers will be in Calibrated or Calibrated Dark modes. Looking forward to reviews this Fall!
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Assuming LG matches BX pricing to the Vizio OLED (BX currently $1500) by the time BF rolls around, what would be the most compelling reasons to choose the Vizio?
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Assuming LG matches BX pricing to the Vizio OLED (BX currently $1500) by the time BF rolls around, what would be the most compelling reasons to choose the Vizio?


The 48GBPs ports and the fact you're supporting the company who is driving the prices down.

More support for Vizio will lead to more involvement of Vizio on the OLED scene and hopefully more price drops down the line for the next few generations. e.g. Maybe they buy 48'' and 77'' panels from LG next year.

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Assuming LG matches BX pricing to the Vizio OLED (BX currently $1500) by the time BF rolls around, what would be the most compelling reasons to choose the Vizio?
Full 48 gbps HDMI 2.1 and probably still cheaper? The real question is why anyone would buy an LG OLED over these Vizios...

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Full 48 gbps HDMI 2.1 and probably still cheaper? The real question is why anyone would buy an LG OLED over these Vizios...
Because it only comes with 2 HDMI 2.1 ports and we don't know what the picture qaulity will be until reviews come out. Being 48Gbps is irrelevant as well.

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Full 48Gbps seemed to matter a lot to people last year. Besides, it's using the same exact LG Display OLED panel that's in the CX.
Because the 2019 models was the first to come out with HDMI 2.1. Since then they did their research and why we see 40Gbps on 2020 and the new Denon recievers releasing around July 15 that only have 40Gbps. Because the panels are 10 bit you don't need a 48Gbps to achieve what is offered in the specs. We now know today 48Gbps only provides 12bit [email protected] 444 when all the displays on the market have 10bit panels. Plus Using LG panels doesn't guarantee picture qaulity, the companies processing does which is why you see the back and forth with picture qaulity with Sony, LG and Pansonic displays. Similar but different based on each companies own processing.
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