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I love the curved top edge 😁👍.

When you get a chance, please explain the difference of how this speaker sounds when compared to the 1099. Both easily cross over at 80Hz and both have 99dB sensitivity. Of course with a little EQ one can get the 1299 to cross over at 60Hz but besides that what area the sonic differences?

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I love the curved top edge 😁👍.

When you get a chance, please explain the difference of how this speaker sounds when compared to the 1099. Both easily cross over at 80Hz and both have 99dB sensitivity. Of course with a little EQ one can get the 1299 to cross over at 60Hz but besides that what area the sonic differences?

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I was thinking the same thing and was debating on whether or not I should start a dedicated thread to discuss the differences between the 893, 1099, 1299 and 1899. Benefits between models, sonic differences, sealed vs ported... etc.

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I was thinking the same thing and was debating on whether or not I should start a dedicated thread to discuss the differences between the 893, 1099, 1299 and 1899. Benefits between models, sonic differences, sealed vs ported... etc.
You might like this thread...

https://www.avsforum.com/showthread.php?t=2309626

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You might like this thread...

https://www.avsforum.com/showthread.php?t=2309626

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Link not working for me... coming up as page not found.

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Works for me 💪

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Not working for me either.

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Erich seems like you need your own CNC so you can cut panels on demand. I suppose you would have already considered and decided against it, but as an outsider it would seem to save you time, money, and floor space.


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It's a thread on the 1299 being up in the DIYSG website. I found it in the general DIY speakers subforum on AVS. Maybe just go to that subforum and schroll down til you find it.

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Erich seems like you need your own CNC so you can cut panels on demand. I suppose you would have already considered and decided against it, but as an outsider it would seem to save you time, money, and floor space.


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It's hard to say. Maybe the space isn't the concern. With someone else doing it, Erich doesn't have to do it himself which makes it so that he can focus supplying a 2499.
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The smarter guys than me can explain why the woofer up top helps out with the overall design concept.
Other than the bracing locations, I'm interested in the answer to this. Can Tux or anyone explain?
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It's a bit of a long technical answer. I've gone over it a few times in the great big 1099 thread. But basically with the woofer top and bottom like that, they cause vertical directivity. So the amount of sound the hits the floor and ceiling is limited. The good part in this is there are fewer reflections coming to the listener. Also helps reduce suck outs cause by the floor or ceiling.
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It's a bit of a long technical answer. I've gone over it a few times in the great big 1099 thread. But basically with the woofer top and bottom like that, they cause vertical directivity. So the amount of sound the hits the floor and ceiling is limited. The good part in this is there are fewer reflections coming to the listener. Also helps reduce suck outs cause by the floor or ceiling.
Thank you for clarifying this, I will stay with the original configuration---top & bottom woofers. Now hopefully all we need is your listening comparisons between the 893, 1099 & 1299 Are you waiting for the production version of the CD?

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My vote is sealed on these bad boys...

@tuxedocivic - doesn't the sensitivity change when you go sealed or are you still able to get 99db out of it?
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My vote is sealed on these bad boys...

@tuxedocivic - doesn't the sensitivity change when you go sealed or are you still able to get 99db out of it?
The sensitivity is based on the F3 and up. Going ported just extends the sensitivity from the sealed roll off at 80hz down to the port tuning.
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The sensitivity is based on the F3 and up. Going ported just extends the sensitivity from the sealed roll off at 80hz down to the port tuning.
ok, thanks... and one last question that really pertains to all of the speakers in this class. Is there a sonic difference keeping the speaker standing the way you have it in the pics versus flipping it upside down with the waveguide on the bottom of the mids? So Bass-->WG-->Mids-->Bass versus Bass-->Mids-->WG-->Bass. Sorry if this has been asked before but my goal would be to get the center of the waveguide at ear level (approx 38" in my case) and keep the entire speaker firing behind an AT screen while keeping the screen at a suitable height. Might not be a big deal either way but curious nonetheless.
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ok, thanks... and one last question that really pertains to all of the speakers in this class. Is there a sonic difference keeping the speaker standing the way you have it in the pics versus flipping it upside down with the waveguide on the bottom of the mids? So Bass-->WG-->Mids-->Bass versus Bass-->Mids-->WG-->Bass. Sorry if this has been asked before but my goal would be to get the center of the waveguide at ear level (approx 38" in my case) and keep the entire speaker firing behind an AT screen while keeping the screen at a suitable height. Might not be a big deal either way but curious nonetheless.
No problem ask anything. And it's a good question as a lot of people want to flip their speakers and put them into a baffle wall or on top of subs. There is no problem at all doing what you've asked. Feel free to flip. The beauty of these 99 designs is their ability to be horizontal, flipped, ported, sealed, etc. Very flexible for DIY'ers.
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No problem ask anything. And it's a good question as a lot of people want to flip their speakers and put them into a baffle wall or on top of subs. There is no problem at all doing what you've asked. Feel free to flip. The beauty of these 99 designs is their ability to be horizontal, flipped, ported, sealed, etc. Very flexible for DIY'ers.
Awesome! Makes me love these designs even more now. Thanks so much for your designs and support to this hobby!
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Will these be able to have a Center channel cut out?? Like the others?? If so, you guys are giving other ID companies a run for their money.
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Yes they will have a center channel option.
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How about purchasing a 1299 as a singe?

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Yes they will have a center channel option.
oh OK.. Thanks... After the 1099 .. These might get a spot in the Mancave.. Very Very Serious..
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Tux--maybe I missed it--Have you done a comparative listening session with your 1299 prototype and your 1099 and 893. I think you mentioned you were going to do that. If you have PLEASE point to the place


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How about purchasing a 1299 as a singe?
I'm sure you'll be able to purchase singles, but that would be up to Erich.
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Tux--maybe I missed it--Have you done a comparative listening session with your 1299 prototype and your 1099 and 893. I think you mentioned you were going to do that. If you have PLEASE point to the place


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Haven't done that. I don't have a 1099 on hand but I'll try and do one against the 893.
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Too bad you don't have the 1099 anymore. In a previous post I asked about the CD's and how the new one compares to the one in the 1099. You mentioned you would provide an alternate resistor value (could an L-Pad be used?) to drop the CD level--if needed, like you did for the 1099 . I've never read that anyone thought the 893 CD needed to be turned down--but I have for the 1099. So when you compare--please note how the 1299 CD compares to the 1099--as you remember it.

I'm really interested in the clarity of movie dialog--both mens and womens voices.

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1299 Pre Order Update?

Has anyone heard when the 1299 pre-orders are set to being shipping (and/or when we can pay the remaining balance)?

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