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Elderblaze 02-06-2016 04:42 PM

Grill Idea's for 1099's
 
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Hello, i've got my pre order in for 1099's and im trying to find the best way to put grills on them. I have children so they need to be covered. The baffle on the 1099 is pretty tight, with very little room for hardware/frames etc. I've considered the options, magnet underlay, parts express frame kits, wood frame kits with cloth, metal etc.

The parts express frame kit looks to bulky and difficult to mount.
The woodframe/magnet underlay will work, but I hate to put a frame on the 1099, as it has very little room around the waveguide/speakers for that.

I like the way Metal looks, and i've considered custom made grills from Reliable Hardware, these look easy and good to go, they cut them perfect, and powder coat them, but they only offer them in staggered round hole, or square holes, their best "Open area" spec is around 63%. Im not a fan of the bent edges look either, and they don't have a solution for sharp edges.

That lead me to looking for metal grills with a higher open area, and trim options for the edges. I found these products on Ebay that im pretty excited about, wanted to see if anyone here has used them and has experience with them.

I found some pretty awsome grill material on Ebay, 77% open area, 14 Gauge Aluminum Hex, the guy who sells it also sells a Neoprene rubber edge trim kit.

I like the conviniance/price of Reliable Hardware, but the ebay material is superior, and with the neoprene edge trim kit I don't have to worry about sharp edges/perfect cuts. I would have to cut the material myself, not sure the best way to cut that, I have a Disc grinder with metal cut of wheels, but getting a straight cut with a tool like that will be tricky, though not sure how much it matters with the trim. What do you guys think of this material?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CCG-UNIVERSA...-/131083703428

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CCG-UNIVERSA...tSZYa4&vxp=mtr

The mounting method would be similar, wood screws into 1/2 stand spacers with a finish washer directly on the grill.

This metal grill should be about as good as it gets, sonically, for a metal grill, 77% open space and no frame. Should be strong enough (14 Gauge) for home use, it's not going on the road or anything.

It will be more expensive this way then the Reliable hardware, as the sheets are 55$ each (16x48) i'd need at least 4 sheets to do 3 1099's and a pair of Volt 10's. Combined with ~40 feet of the neoprene trim. I think the look would be dynamite though. I plan to paint my 1099's white with a black metal grill.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CCG-UNIVERSA...428?rmvSB=true

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CCG-UNIVERSA...tSZYa4&vxp=mtr

The video's give a better idea of quality, scroll down on the ebay page.

77% open area, 14 Gauge, powder coated hexagonal aluminum, with a nice clean edge if you use the neoprene edge kit. I don't think it gets much better then this for metal grills. It's expensive though, as i'd need about 4 sheets to complete my project, and a good 40 feet of the trim. I'd mount it the same way Reliable hardware suggest, screws straight though the mesh though a 1/2 standoff into the speaker.

krholmberg 02-06-2016 07:40 PM

Looks interesting. I have young kids and I'm seriously looking at the 1299's. Something like this would be awesome for protecting them... and the kids, too!

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jleonard711 02-06-2016 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Elderblaze (Post 41324465)
I plan to paint my 1099's white with a black metal grill.

I think White Duratex with those metal hex grills would look very industrial, and quite frankly sexy as hell!

Just picture these with the grills on them.

http://i.imgur.com/Xjh8PRz.jpg

dorri732 02-07-2016 05:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jleonard711 (Post 41329857)
I think White Duratex with those metal hex grills would look very industrial, and quite frankly sexy as hell!

Just picture these with the grills on them.

http://i.imgur.com/Xjh8PRz.jpg

Hey! That's my living room!

:)

jleonard711 02-07-2016 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by dorri732 (Post 41332201)
Hey! That's my living room!

:)

They look great!!

FriscoDTM 02-07-2016 12:00 PM

Don't underestimate the difficulty cutting the metal and how sharp it will be unless you file it or do something else to dull the edges. The neoprene might help, but this method sounds like a lot of work (and expense) and might not end up being the solution you hoped for. I thought about something like this also and abandoned it, instead doing hidden magnets with 1/2" MDF frames and grill cloth to cover my 1099s, and so far they worked just fine and eventually will come off permanently. In my case, I had the boxes sitting in the room without cones for about two weeks, and that was enough for my kids to lose interest playing with them. I installed all drivers and the frames at night when they weren't watching, and they have never paid attention afterwards. An alternative simple solution is also to wrap/encase the entire speaker in fabric.

Elderblaze 02-07-2016 05:57 PM

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I don't know -- im a locksmith by trade, and I cut metal all the time, albeit not so pretty. It does not seem too intimidating to me.

I was actually planing to make my 1099 a Floor stander, probably about 52", and go with a smooth white finish, im not sure if I want to go Matte or Gloss yet. I was also considering making the front metal grill a bit longer then 36", maybe 38 " or so, so it rides down the tower a little bit, were i'd put a custom made chrome name plate on the grill itself, Elusive, or perhaps Elusive 1099, or maybe just 1099, im not sure.

Im pretty sure im going to go with those grills, not sure on the way to attach them yet. Either screws + standoff's, or magnets. And there's multiple ways to do magnets, either a small screw just straight into the baffle (flush) and magnets glued to the grill then straight to the screw on the speaker, or the magnet underlay method. + magnets on the grill.

The grill im looking at is aluminum so it's not magnetic by itself.

Mansfieldstake 02-29-2016 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Elderblaze (Post 41324465)
Hello, i've got my pre order in for 1099's and im trying to find the best way to put grills on them....


I'm glad you started this thread. I have 3 1099's on order and I'm also considering grill options for protection from my little ones. I'm currently leaning toward the recessed magnet approach but will be eager to see how your plan works out. Based on your description, I think the finished product could look quite striking. Good luck and keep us posted!

rondi 02-29-2016 08:14 PM

I mentioned this in another thread that Elderblaze asked about grills, then FriscoDTM mentioned wrapping them in grill cloth just a few post above. I've got a pair of Ported Volt 6's on order that I'm gonna try wrapping them. Erich sez there is not much woofer movement on the V6's but there surely will be on the 1299's--- I too am considering. Spacing the grill cloth away from the baffle so the woofer surround doesn't hit at max excursions AND not affecting the CD&WG might be impossible.

Elderblaze 03-02-2016 06:40 PM

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I did end up purchasing the 77% air space aluminum, black powdercoat honeycomb grills on ebay, I bought 4 sheets, was expensive at 55$ a sheet, they are sitting in my garage now, awaiting 1099 kits.The material is really nice, I think it's going to work out well. the 4th sheet is for a pair of Volt 10 LX's, I've just barely started working on, I've got the boxes glued up and that's about it... have not had time to work on them, bathroom remodel, wife and kids, with a full time job and all.

krholmberg 03-05-2016 02:48 AM

Postpics please. Especially after you are done with the 1099s.

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alexdacoolsquid 03-06-2016 10:14 PM

Sounds like a cool look.

Elderblaze 05-07-2016 06:01 PM

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Anyone curious to how this turned out :

tuxedocivic 05-07-2016 09:16 PM

Very cool. I like seeing how people take different approaches.

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