Originally Posted by todd_j_derr
My biggest concern is the reports of all recordings being lost. That is completely unacceptable in all circumstances short of catastrophic hardware failure.
Having been a ReplayTV user (we have five) for nearly a decade now, it is
a real bummer to lose recorded shows -- it's happened to me several times over the years, most recently a little over a month or so ago.
With the RTVs, though, one can move recorded shows off the unit to another hard drive where you can easily make backups while not losing the ability to stream the shows back to the RTVs for multi-room viewing or to burn to DVD. I used to burn a lot of stuff to DVD, but I've basically abandoned that process except for stuff I want to take when I travel. I have a huge video collection stored -- and backed up -- that way, and I'll really miss that functionality.
Originally Posted by Riverside_Guy
Not to mention the general topic is upgrading the internal drive. The whole process with Moxi can be easily likened to what TiVO has already gone through I SERIOUSLY doubt that ever really HURT TiVO and could make an argument that it helped them... dollars to donuts some bought it because it was well know how to do that.
I couldn't agree more: I've replaced/upgraded hard drives, power supplies, etc in our RTVs, something that has kept them going, and going, and going. I wouldn't have kept adding RTV units without that ability because it would have really chapped my hide to spend the money for the units & activations only to lose the unit three months or a year after the warranty was up. After the first time of sending one back for "inexpensive" service (replacing a failed hard drive) and having the unit returned minus power supply screws which I found out when the power supply failed a couple of months later, I'd much rather be able to do simple things like that myself where I know what the quality of the workmanship is.
Originally Posted by geodon005
here is the reply I received fromMoxi's Customer Care on this issue:
The HDCP service, for copyright protection reasons, disables the component and composite outputs for video. Audio however can still be output.
If you wish to back up to a DVD for educational purposes, you only need to connect the Moxi to the inputs on the DVD recorder, then connect the DVD player's outputs to the TV, so the DVD recorder will act as a pass-through device recording everything you watch on the DVR. You shouldn't need to connect the DVR directly to the TV when connecting it this way.
Please note that some DVD recorders recognize Macrovision flagging for content protection, so you might not be able to record certain/any programs.
Ahhh . . . I'd not thought of that. We'll be keeping one or two RTVs with lifetime activation in service, so that may be a solution, albeit clunky, for me. It'll be a bummer to lose HD on that stuff, but it's better than nothing, for now.
I have some more questions
about the analog dongle, the Guide, and Moxi functionality this time.
How dependent is Moxi on the Guide?
RTVs, of course, are different than Moxis, but our current situation is that 8 days ago, Tribune Media Services erroneously dropped the non-digital channel lineup listings. Since RTV (and Windows Media Center, BTW), use Tribune Media Services for their guides (I hope I'm explaining it correctly), two our our RTVs that are hooked up just to coax are completely crippled: we can get only a fraction of the channels we can get hooking the coax directly to an ancient TV, and we can't record anything even manually.
We're still waiting for the fix, which was promised Saturday and Sunday and Monday and . . .
This isn't the only Guide problem we've run into. I guess TWC in this area frequently plays musical channels on stuff we don't watch, and when there's a channel or Guide update (I don't know which) which are never announced in advance & with no notification afterwards, it wipes out scheduled recordings even on channels which haven't moved until someone notices & I go into Setup to reselect TWC. Very frustrating.
And, getting Guide errors corrected isn't always prompt. The most recent time there was a problem was in January when the guide listed 6 digital & 1 HD channel TWC had dropped and didnt' list a new HD channel. It took almost a month for that error to be corrected. Since the new HD channel wasn't listed in the Guide, the only way we could view it was to bypass the RTV and view through the STB with its Guide.
So, while I've won the purchasing decision discussion, I'd like to better understand how this works with the Moxi -- it's always a better scenario in this house when I'm aware of potential problems in advance so I can mention them in passing to my dh . . . then when something happens and he's ready to play the blame game , I can remind him I told him of the possibility
The analog dongle question really is just more of the above. While we currently have no problem with whatever channels are analog on the RTVs with HD STBs because the "digital lineup" Guide correctly includes those channels, I'm wondering if the analog tuner added by the dongle will experience the same limitations at our RTVs hooked to coax until the Guide is eventually corrected?
If so, it might be better for me to wait until that's corrected, although the bigger part of me is really resenting the heck out of being down two tuners to record. Even if the analog dongle won't work until the analog lineup Guide for this area is fixed, we'd still have six tuners to record digital channels rather than the three (down from five) we're got now that's causing domestic disharmony when we're short places to record.
I'll greatly appreciate any info -- TIA!