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Here is another MicroSD to SD adapter:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

But do they work?
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Nothing direct to me so far. The only update I've seen is on this page: https://www.channelmaster.com/Stream_Plus_p/cm-7600.htm
damn ! another month of rumors and speculations ...

anybody catch its mfg model number ? I would try to tracking the cargo by discovering a bill of lading...
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Here is another MicroSD to SD adapter:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

But do they work?
usually the adapters working fine - it's just dumb plastic sleeve with pin to pin connection
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usually the adapters working fine - it's just dumb plastic sleeve with pin to pin connection
Here's another. Amazon, prime shipping, and good rating. Wish I'd found this first:

https://www.amazon.com/Extension-Ada...A0C8D7886MP753

And another from Amazon like my original post. No ribbon:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0143QFXYO..._t1_B06X3Y4BBB

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Here is another MicroSD to SD adapter:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...B&gclsrc=aw.ds

But do they work?
Yeah, SD and micro-SD are pin-for-pin identical, it's just the physical size that's different. The only issue would be whether the adapter is able to slide far enough in to the Stream+, since the slot is a bit recessed. That's actually a really good idea, since this device doesn't need to be portable, and as you say, standard SD is a lot cheaper. Good suggestion!
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damn ! another month of rumors and speculations ...

anybody catch its mfg model number ? I would try to tracking the cargo by discovering a bill of lading...
CM-7600

https://s3-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/d...Jan+9+2018.pdf
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the PDF should be attached to first post ... anyway, to avoid broken URL I did upload the PDF here at https://www.avsforum.com/forum/42-hdt...l#post55482014

as to the "CM-7600" id, nay ... it's CM's model, not the mfg ... not gonna help in research

perhaps there is a white label at bottom with mfg's ID
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The microSD adapter is a great idea. I was actually trying to go a step further and find some conglomeration of adapters to go from microSD to USB in order to ultimately plug a USB drive into the microSD port. So far, no luck. As far as I can tell, the only adapters that exist only go the other way, plugging a microSD into a USB port.

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Don’t think I’ve seen this link posted yet from few days ago.

Not much new learned but nice article.

http://televisions.reviewed.com/feat...apple-tv-to-be
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Don’t think I’ve seen this link posted yet from few days ago.

Not much new learned but nice article.

http://televisions.reviewed.com/feat...apple-tv-to-be
Thanks for your post. I found this to be very informative. My concern with the unit is, will it be able record movies and shows other than Over The Air channels ?

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the PDF should be attached to first post ... anyway, to avoid broken URL I did upload the PDF here at https://www.avsforum.com/forum/42-hdt...l#post55482014
Where you been, that URL has been on the first post for a week or so!!! FYI, I've been updating post 1 as things happen, even though eventually this thread will be replaced with a brand spanking new Stream+ thread (hopefully) to get rid of all the speculation.
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Don’t think I’ve seen this link posted yet from few days ago.

Not much new learned but nice article.

http://televisions.reviewed.com/feat...apple-tv-to-be
Thanks for the article! One thing hiding as a caption of one of the pics is the statement "With a microSD card the Stream+ can record two shows at once and supports pause/rewind/fast forward." That's the first time I've seen "Fast Forward" mentioned (even though there is a button on the remote control). In all CM documentation, that wording is missing, making me an others wonder if they crippled Fast Forward to prevent commercial skipping. Still, this is not conclusive evidence, so we still have to wait for the Stream+ to meet the hands of an AVS member!


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Thanks for your post. I found this to be very informative. My concern with the unit is, will it be able record movies and shows other than Over The Air channels ?
It will NOT record any streaming shows (see the article kent2174 linked).
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Thanks for the article! One thing hiding as a caption of one of the pics is the statement "With a microSD card the Stream+ can record two shows at once and supports pause/rewind/fast forward." That's the first time I've seen "Fast Forward" mentioned (even though there is a button on the remote control). In all CM documentation, that wording is missing, making me an others wonder if they crippled Fast Forward to prevent commercial skipping. Still, this is not conclusive evidence, so we still have to wait for the Stream+ to meet the hands of an AVS member!



It will NOT record any streaming shows (see the article kent2174 linked).
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Do you think there could be work around something similar like in your signature ?

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Pachinko,

Do you think there could be work around something similar like in your signature ?
That would be Android hack !
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Thanks for the article! One thing hiding as a caption of one of the pics is the statement "With a microSD card the Stream+ can record two shows at once and supports pause/rewind/fast forward." That's the first time I've seen "Fast Forward" mentioned (even though there is a button on the remote control). In all CM documentation, that wording is missing, making me an others wonder if they crippled Fast Forward to prevent commercial skipping. Still, this is not conclusive evidence, so we still have to wait for the Stream+ to meet the hands of an AVS member!



It will NOT record any streaming shows (see the article kent2174 linked).
As far as Fast Forward, that picture even shows 4X on the screen of the demo...which is basically fast forward at 4 times the regular play speed (or some equivalent). That looks to be from the CES event and not just some stock photo, so that is good news. That would be poor to showcase it like that and then strip that option away. So, I feel pretty confident we will see FF.
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Channel Master has a history with the DVR+ of making promises or alluding to enhancements that either never materialized or did not work as advertised.

So don't buy into all the hype from them and don't get too excited!

Marketing and selling something and then delivering are different skills!
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Pachinko,

Do you think there could be work around something similar like in your signature ?
If you mean being able to copy recordings to a computer where you would be able to do whatever you want with them (like you should be able to do with OTA), then probably not. What little I know about Android is what I've learned from this thread, and that doesn't look good. What I managed to do with DVR+ wasn't true hacking, rather it was simply reading data from unprotected binary files, with no decryption required.

And for hacking a way to record or copy streaming content, I wouldn't do that (at least not for public use) even if I could, not because I think it would be wrong, but because I value my freedom!


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As far as Fast Forward, that picture even shows 4X on the screen of the demo...which is basically fast forward at 4 times the regular play speed (or some equivalent). That looks to be from the CES event and not just some stock photo, so that is good news. That would be poor to showcase it like that and then strip that option away. So, I feel pretty confident we will see FF.
I hope you're right, and I think it would be a dumb move if the Stream+ doesn't FF, or if FF is crippled during commercials, at least on OTA content!
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Where you been, that URL has been on the first post for a week or so!!! FYI, I've been updating post 1 as things happen, even though eventually this thread will be replaced with a brand spanking new Stream+ thread (hopefully) to get rid of all the speculation.
I'm really inclined to rename current thread to "Speculations around CM-7600" !
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I hope you're right, and I think it would be a dumb move if the Stream+ doesn't FF, or if FF is crippled during commercials, at least on OTA content!
I absolutely agree with you. The main reason I buy DVR's is to be able to fast forward the endless stream of commercials that are foisted on viewers. A secondary reason would be delayed viewing, but most of the stuff I record from over the air (OTA) sources is watched within a few hours of the original recording and then erased. An example would be news programs. Nearly all of the entertainment programs that come OTA are not directed to my view interests.

Actually the vast majority of stuff I watch is on demand from streaming sources which do not have commercials. I would much rather pay a monthly fee to Netflix or other streaming service than be exposed to the mind numbing experience of commercial TV. I subscribed to CBS online so I could watch STAR TREK. It's five bucks a month with limited commercials. Next Star Trek season I am going to pay the nine bucks a month for no commercials and binge watch the series. I can only survive limited exposure to those ridiculous Geico commercials.
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Does some who paid, ordered S+ got ETA ?
I ordered two the day after the device was announced. No ETA as yet.

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I'm really inclined to rename current thread to "Speculations around CM-7600" !
I put in a request to rename this thread to "Channel Master Stream+ Pre-Release Speculation", and if possible will have it locked when the Stream+ is released and a new thread is created.

Since I do not plan to purchase the Stream+, hopefully someone else will start a new "Channel Master Stream+" thread that will be based upon accurate hands on information.
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I put in a request to rename this thread to "Channel Master Stream+ Pre-Release Speculation", and if possible will have it locked when the Stream+ is released and a new thread is created.
Good idea. That way we won't have to pore through endless pages of speculation to get to the real info that starts pouring in when one of these units finally shows up in someone's mailbox.

Of course, at that time, I hope the mods will post a final message on the thread directing folks to the new thread.
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Since I do not plan to purchase the Stream+, hopefully someone else will start a new "Channel Master Stream+" thread that will be based upon accurate hands on information.
Should we nominate someone to start that thread with a sticky at the top to NOT post in it until the Stream+ is delivered?
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Should we nominate someone to start that thread with a sticky at the top to NOT post in it until the Stream+ is delivered?
just make public promise keep your hand tight for now

who will got real S+ first, will open new thread
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Good idea. That way we won't have to pore through endless pages of speculation to get to the real info that starts pouring in when one of these units finally shows up in someone's mailbox.

Of course, at that time, I hope the mods will post a final message on the thread directing folks to the new thread.
I do not disagree with you, however if you look over the dvr+ thread, which did actually exist, you will witness many posts that are based on speculation about why something works or not, whether this hard drive will work or not, what’s going on with the online schedule, etc, etc.

It is true that there are folks who deliver good info, but even they tend to speculate, and some of the speculation is due to poor communication by corporations. For instance, Channel Master was not up front about the death of the dvr+. They wanted to sell off their existing stock before they announced the new device. They told me on the phone they were waiting for a new shipment of the dvr+ and I would be the first to know when the shipment came in. I am still waiting for that email.

I found out about the new device on this thread, not from Channel Master. The speculation can be maddening, but occasionally there is a thread or maybe a post of truth.
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We should start a new thread called the "Channel Master Speculation" thread.

It would quickly fill up with over a thousand posts of remembered promises, or suggested changes, and suggested remedies either from phone calls, emails, their website, CES, FAQs, etc.

That would be very telling and scary!
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I ordered two the day after the device was announced. No ETA as yet.
I posted earlier that I phoned CM after it mentioned here about the delayed ship date, and they confirmed the first pre-orders will ship mid February.

Since then, several people, including myself, tweeted to the official Channel Master Twitter account, questioning the reason for the delay. The official response,

"Just your standard shipping delays. Manufacturing fun. Initial inventory can be tricky to estimate! Sorry for the delay"

Check tweets and replies on the Channel Master Twitter account for other interesting details on the EPG, Google Live Channels etc. Not all necessarily new, but official.
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It would quickly fill up with over a thousand posts of remembered promises, or suggested changes, and suggested remedies either from phone calls, emails, their website, CES, FAQs, etc.
There has been a lot of speculation here about whether or not the Stream+ is a replacement for the DVR+, and a fair amount of back and forth between CM and people who have already ordered a Stream+. But has anyone asked CM if *they* consider the Stream+ to be a replacement for the DVR+? It's clear that consumers, i.e. "we" don't consider it to be a replacement. But if CM would give a straight answer to that question it would clear up one aspect of that speculation very quickly. If CM does consider the Stream+ to be a DVR+ replacement we would know once and for all that CM doesn't have any plans for a new OTA oriented recording unit. If they don't consider it to be a replacement, then it would give hope to a lot of the people who participate in both threads. But I wonder if they would even give us a definitive answer to the question.
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Some Images of the Stream+ internals

For what they are worth, here's a couple of images of the internals (captured from a video).

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There has been a lot of speculation here about whether or not the Stream+ is a replacement for the DVR+, and a fair amount of back and forth between CM and people who have already ordered a Stream+. But has anyone asked CM if *they* consider the Stream+ to be a replacement for the DVR+? It's clear that consumers, i.e. "we" don't consider it to be a replacement. But if CM would give a straight answer to that question it would clear up one aspect of that speculation very quickly. If CM does consider the Stream+ to be a DVR+ replacement we would know once and for all that CM doesn't have any plans for a new OTA oriented recording unit. If they don't consider it to be a replacement, then it would give hope to a lot of the people who participate in both threads. But I wonder if they would even give us a definitive answer to the question.i
That's an interesting take on the Stream+, as I have pre-ordered precisely because I consider it an OTA-oriented recording unit that hopefully will suit my needs. I really am not thinking of it as a streaming device, as I think that Roku, Fire, ATV etc most likely provide a superior experience in that regard. Certainly, I will explore it's capabilities as I've never had an Android box and I'll be curious about how it might perform in that regard. It seems from many posts that there is a great deal of disappointment that the Stream+ will not offer greater storage capacity, and that recordings will not be transportable or accessible across a home network.
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