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basic tuner recommendations

hey guys
got a new VIZIO P series tv that doesn't have a tuner built in. i have on OTA antenna but need a way to connect it to the TV via HDMI. any basic recommendations? i don't really need DVR capabilities. i see a bunch of cheap ones on amazon and looking for a recommendation. i also see Channel Master stuff but thats a lot more expensive and i dont really know if i need anything like that (i dont really need DVR or T guide capabilities).

thanks!
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If you just want a simple ATSC tuner, look at the iView for ~$40.

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Not sure why you posted in HDTV Recorders if you don't need DVR, but, as long as you're here....

Most of the cheap tuners you see on Amazon are clones of the same basic MStar box. The most popular brands are probably the HomeWorx (sold by Mediasonic) and iView (sold by Wiltronics), but there are plenty of other brands too, such as eMatic and Terk.

HomeWorx is probably the safest recommendation for most. No frills but they generally work OOTB, with fewer firmware bugs than average for this type of box. The two most popular models are the HW-150PVR and the HW-180STB. They are very similar; the 180 lacks a few of the 150's less-used outputs and costs a bit less. Both models will actually do some light recording to a USB-attached drive should the need arise. Main thread for these boxes is here: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/42-hdt...iscussion.html

Not sure what you saw from Channel Master. They used to sell their own version of the same MStar box, called the CM-7003, but it didn't work as well as the HomeWorx or iView and has been discontinued. Their DVR+ was a decent 2-tuner DVR but it has also been discontinued in favor of an upcoming OTA w/streaming box, the Stream+. Main thread for the Stream+: https://www.avsforum.com/forum/42-hdt...er-stream.html

I think Channel Master may still sell the CM-7002 though. This is an interesting tuner intended for use with an HDMI device such as a Roku or other streaming player. You plug the Roku (or whatever) into the CM-7002 then connect the CM-7002 to your TV with an HDMI cable. (And connect coax from the antenna to the CM-7002, of course.) The CM-7002 remote lets you switch easily between its tuner and your Roku (or whatever device you plug into it).
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hey guys
got a new VIZIO P series tv that doesn't have a tuner built in. i have on OTA antenna but need a way to connect it to the TV via HDMI. any basic recommendations? i don't really need DVR capabilities. i see a bunch of cheap ones on amazon and looking for a recommendation. i also see Channel Master stuff but thats a lot more expensive and i dont really know if i need anything like that (i dont really need DVR or T guide capabilities).

thanks!
I would return the display and get one with a tuner. I don't think a unit without a tuner can be called a TV!

Section 15.117(i)(1) of the Commission's Rules requires that all new TV
broadcast receivers imported into the United States or shipped interstate
be equipped with a DTV tuner according to the following schedule: (i)
screen sizes 36" and above - effective July 1, 2005; (ii) screen sizes 25"
to 35" - effective March 1, 2006; and (iii) screen sizes less than 25" -
effective March 1, 2007. The Commission subsequently amended its rule to
make it applicable to screen sizes less than 13" effective January 30,
2008.

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Basic TV tuner

I too have the Vizio P series TV (which I love) I use the BestBuy branded Insignia ATSC standalone tuner as my backup waiting for the new ATSC 3.0 due some time in the next few years. This Insignia has the best quality picture (upscaled) that I have seen with good build and remote.
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Is that the NS-DXA1? That was a converter box (i.e., no HD output). OP wanted an HDMI output.

Or does Insignia have a new ATSC tuner with HDMI that Google can't find?
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TV ATSC tuner

Yes I believe it is. It does have HDMI out and supports HD.
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If you can find the model number on your Insignia tuner, please post it so we can search for it!

For reference, here's a photo of the original NS-DXA1, which as you can see had no HDMI output:
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Is that the NS-DXA1? That was a converter box (i.e., no HD output). OP wanted an HDMI output.

Or does Insignia have a new ATSC tuner with HDMI that Google can't find?
NS-DXA3

I do not recall this box being discussed previously. It looks like it has been available for a year. The first reviews on Best Buy are from February 2017.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insigni...?skuId=5449400
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NS-DXA3

I do not recall this box being discussed previously. It looks like it has been available for a year. The first reviews on Best Buy are from February 2017.

https://www.bestbuy.com/site/insigni...?skuId=5449400
How much would it cost for BB to include a picture of the remote
Sure looks like a basic cheap CECB, with the addition of the HDMI out. Kind of surprised it doesn't have digital audio out(coax or optical) but it is what it is.
Wonder if it's more reliable/stable than say an iView that does what this box does and even includes a DVR function with a user supplied USB drive all for half the price......some of the iViews or clones even have a rudimentary display that this box lacks. Good luck Best Buy
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How much would it cost for BB to include a picture of the remote
Don't know about Best Buy, but eBay has a pic that won't cost us a dime:
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Thanks. At least that remote looks better than the M-Star remotes which IMO range from bad to worse!
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If you can find the model number on your Insignia tuner, please post it so we can search for it!

For reference, here's a photo of the original NS-DXA1, which as you can see had no HDMI output:
The Insignia TV tuner model number is NSDXA3.
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Insignia Tuner

The Insignia TV tuner model number is NSDXA3.
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The Insignia TV tuner model number is NSDXA3.
I missed the above response, that remote is the same as came with this new model. Quality is excellent.
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Thanks. At least that remote looks better than the M-Star remotes which IMO range from bad to worse!
Yes; about the only halfway-decent one is the current iView 3500 remote. Most of them use that same basic teensy-weensy remote, with 3 rows of 4 round buttons requiring some imaginative arrangement of the digits 0-9! Then there's the HW-150 remote; a bit bigger but terribly hard to read gray-on-black. And that old iView remote....
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