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post #31 of 785 Old 08-17-2004, 04:52 PM
 
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Stereo Advantage claims to have the HM-DH5U available. I don't know if it is true or not. Amazon still has the "coming soon" stamp.

http://www.stereoadvantage.com/homevideo.htm
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JVC now has the HMDH5U on their website. MSRP $799.

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Re: HMDH5U

The description on the JVC website does not say anything about DTS for this model it only indicates Dolby Digital. Does that mean that this unit can not output DTS?

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Re: HMDH5U

The description on the JVC website does not say anything about DTS for this model it only indicates Dolby Digital. Does that mean that this unit can not output DTS?

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The stereo advantage website sure mentions it in the description:

Built-in MPEG2 Decoder for Direct Connection to HDTV via Y/Pb/Pr or HDMI (High Definition Multimedia Interface)
Digital Set-top box ready with Digital-to-Digital connection via i.Link (IEEE 1394) terminal
MPEG-2 CODEC encoding/decoding for digital recording of NTSC sources
HDTV Digital Broadcast Bitstream Recording/ Playback
D-Theater compliant with the advanced D-VHS security system
Can Record Any Type of Broadcast including HD, SD or Analog
HS mode (28.2 Mbps) for up to 3.5 hours* HDTV recording STD Mode (14.1 Mbps) for up to 7 hours* SD recording LS3 Mode (4.7 Mbps) for up to 21 hours* long-time recording * and LS5 mode for up to 35 hours* long-time recording *per DF-420 cassette
Frame Synchronizer for pristine analog-to-digital dubs
D-VHS (HS, STD, LS3) S-VHS (SP, EP) S-VHS ET (SP, EP) HiFi VHS (SP, EP) VHS (SP, EP)
Full Spec HDTV Compatible (with all 18 ATSC broadcasting formats)
DigiPure Technology for high resolution analog recording and playback
5.1 Dolby Digital Output (optical)
2 channel Linear PCM Audio Output capability
1080i, 720P, 480P and 480i
2 Sets of AV inputs
S-Video inputs
2 Sets of AV outputs
2 S-Video Outputs
1 Component Video Output (Y, Pb, Pr)
1 x Optical Digital Output
2 x I.Link Terminal (IEEE 1394), DV input only for camcorders
Front Inputs ( AV, S-Video, i.Link)
Video Navigation- Tape Number, Record date and Category sorting
MTS Decoder for SAP programs
VCR Plus+ with provided cable box controller
Express Programming
Plug and Play for automatic tuner and clock set-up
1-year / 24-event programmable timer
Av Compu Link
Multi-Brand TV/Cable/DBS compatible Glow Key Remote Control
1 Year Parts, 90 Days Labor
Weight: 13.5 lbs.(6.1kg)
Width: 17.1?(435mm)
Height: 3.8?(97mm)
Depth: 13.7?(348mm)




Availability: Usually ships the next business day.

JVC-HMDH5UManufacturer's List Price: $799.95Sale Price: $599.90
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Still unclear -- does the unit include the hi-def tuner?
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The DH5U doesn't have the tuner- That model costs twice as much (don't ask me why).

Why does the 40K have a higher MSRP?

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Why does the 40K have a higher MSRP?

Because prices have come down and it is an older model, the same reason the 30K has a higher MSRP than the 40K. This is of course the same reason my 12 year old 486 computer had a higher MSRP than a current Pentium 4. Manufacturers usually don't reduce the MSRP on discontinued products when new products are released. The 40K can be found for a much lower price than the 5U despite the higher MSRP.

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HDTVFanAtic,

I don't see any mention of DTS in what you quotes either. Are you implying that since it's "D-Theater compliant" it also works with DTS? The 30k was D-Theater compliant, but it couldn't output DTS. They specifically list Dolby 5.1 below, but not DTS.

Maybe that will be another differentiator between the 2 models? I hope not. I also hope they're not dropping DTS. Anyone have any info?

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The stereo advantage website sure mentions it in the description:

Built-in MPEG2 Decoder for Direct Connection to HDTV via Y/Pb/Pr or HDMI™ (High Definition Multimedia Interface)
Digital Set-top box ready with Digital-to-Digital connection via i.Link (IEEE 1394) terminal
MPEG-2 CODEC encoding/decoding for digital recording of NTSC sources
HDTV Digital Broadcast Bitstream Recording/ Playback
D-Theater compliant with the advanced D-VHS security system
Can Record Any Type of Broadcast including HD, SD or Analog
HS mode (28.2 Mbps) for up to 3.5 hours* HDTV recording STD Mode (14.1 Mbps) for up to 7 hours* SD recording LS3 Mode (4.7 Mbps) for up to 21 hours* long-time recording * and LS5 mode for up to 35 hours* long-time recording *per DF-420 cassette
Frame Synchronizer for pristine analog-to-digital dubs
D-VHS (HS, STD, LS3) S-VHS (SP, EP) S-VHS ET (SP, EP) HiFi VHS (SP, EP) VHS (SP, EP)
Full Spec HDTV Compatible (with all 18 ATSC broadcasting formats)
DigiPure Technology for high resolution analog recording and playback
5.1 Dolby Digital Output (optical)
2 channel Linear PCM Audio Output capability
1080i, 720P, 480P and 480i
2 Sets of AV inputs
S-Video inputs
2 Sets of AV outputs
2 S-Video Outputs
1 Component Video Output (Y, Pb, Pr)
1 x Optical Digital Output
2 x I.Link Terminal (IEEE 1394), DV input only for camcorders
Front Inputs ( AV, S-Video, i.Link)
Video Navigation- Tape Number, Record date and Category sorting
MTS Decoder for SAP programs
VCR Plus+ with provided cable box controller
Express Programming
Plug and Play for automatic tuner and clock set-up
1-year / 24-event programmable timer
Av Compu Link
Multi-Brand TV/Cable/DBS compatible Glow Key Remote Control
1 Year Parts, 90 Days Labor
Weight: 13.5 lbs.(6.1kg)
Width: 17.1?(435mm)
Height: 3.8?(97mm)
Depth: 13.7?(348mm)




Availability: Usually ships the next business day.

JVC-HMDH5UManufacturer's List Price: $799.95Sale Price: $599.90


 

 

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I don't think they list DTS for the 40K either, but I think it supports it. Maybe it's an "undocumented feature".
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Sorry - second time I've screwed up DTS an D-Theater - guess I need to read slower
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This site indicates the HM-DH5U has DTS capability. I don't know if it is right or not but I can't imagine that JVC would drop DTS from the current models.

http://www.dotcities.com/dotcities_p...sinSearch.html

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Check the 5u photo on either the JVC or the above referenced web site. The second logo to the left on the bottom right of the 5U appears to be the DTS logo.
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alk3997, I just noticed the same thing. Also, the Viktor HM-DHX2, the Japanese equivalent to the HM-DH5U has the DTS logo prominently displayed in the same spot.

I might be getting one of these in the next week or two so I can verify by then.
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I seem to be going back and forth on ordering one of these.....i probably would have done it from etronics this past weekend who claim they are in stock for $549 if i hadn't read some bad reviews on them saying things were in stock that werent.

I think I have $150 worth of amazon certificates somewhere as well. Might take the plunge if I could find it there at a reasonable price.

Anyone KNOW of anyone that REALLY has the deck at a decent price?
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seams no one have it truly on stock.
reason is may that jvc not have released the units till today.
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I am hoping the new model has an improved MPEG decoder and improved component out quality. Has anyone heard anything in this regard?
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Well Folks,
I am looking at the mauals front page and it shows the DTS insignia saying Digital Out

the specs page lists the Optical connector passing both the Dolby Digital Out stream and the DTS digital output stream.

Lastly the glossary specifies that there is no digital decoder just that it will be glad to pass it along to your decoder.


Stereo Advantage has them in stock..



HM-DH5U that is


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well Kevin, as you don't list a location, I can't exactly tell where Stereo Advantage is located. Where are they and what are they charging for the unit. Did you purchase one?
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I am new to this forum.

I do computers for living and assume everyone can read my mind.
I actually figured everyone on this forum would know much more than me and would get it.

I got it from one of the subscribers on the forum.
Took about a week.
Not enout posts yet to place a URL PM me
But the address is in this thread.

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I placed an order with Stereo Advantage for a JVC HM-DH5U last week Thursday.

My unit was shipped today, scheduled delivery is on the 27th of this month.

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Kurt, we'll be eagerly awaiting your impressions of the HM-DH5U.

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Big time. I am very curious about the new deck.

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Big time. I am very curious about the new deck.

Me too and in a couple of years we will know if it is any better than the earlier models.

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So what the consensus on the best blank tape to use?

I've got some old high quality S-VHS tapes lying around which I can (maybe) use until my order of JVC D-VHS tapes is delivered.

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Fuji S-VHS tapes rock. I have a failure rate of maybe 0.05% tops.

I like JVC's D-VHS tapes as well. I use them for the more important recordings.

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Any D-VHS tape works great and any high grade SVHS tape I have tried works great. Fuji H471S tests out best on my equipment. Standard grade SVHS has been hit or miss for me so I quit using it. H471S is often more expensive new than D-VHS tape but I use it whenever I can find it in great shape used at a great price.

Standard grade Fuji has been the worst for me, much worse than Matt's .05% if he is talking about standard. Based on my experience with SVHS, I would expect JVC standard grade SVHS to be bad also but I have never tried it for D-VHS.

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That is odd, Chris. I and a good friend of mine use them all the time. We have recorded hundreds, if not thousands of times onto these tapes and have almost no problems. I think I have had 2 bad tapes all year.

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I've had great success w/Fuji SVHS tapes as well. This was when I had my Panny HD1000 deck & now w/the JVC 30K.

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Kurt:

Did your Stereo Advantage order ship? I want to place an order myself.
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That is odd, Chris. I and a good friend of mine use them all the time. We have recorded hundreds, if not thousands of times onto these tapes and have almost no problems. I think I have had 2 bad tapes all year.

If I recall, I had about 3 or 4 bad D-VHS recordings out of 10 using Fuji standard grade SVHS. I reused the same SVHS tape for SVHS recording and it worked fine and I have never used it again for D-VHS. I have never had a bad Fuji H471S. I tested the standard grade Fuji using my Hitachi D-VHS VCR which has a tape quality reading that has proven reliable for testing D-VHS tape suitability and the tape failed to get an acceptable reading so it won't be used by me. Since I have several different D-VHS VCRs, I know that some are more SVHS tape friendly. I would expect my Mitsubishi D-VHS VCR would work fine with standard grade SVHS while some of the others will not. Just to simplify, I use tape that works well with all of the VCRs.

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