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post #1 of 14 Old 09-01-2019, 12:18 PM - Thread Starter
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New "Value" product lineup info.

Hi all,

I have briefly discussed a new product lineup I'm dubbing the "value" line. Not the most imaginative designation but it gets the point across.

The first four products will be partially/fully assembled in china.

The Value lineup will eventually include a wide range of both speakers and subwoofers.

The first two offerings. (working model designations)

* Value12

Smaller sealed subwoofer. 14 inch cube. 450 watt amplifier, DSP enabled. Heavy duty ferrite magnet 12" woofer. Expected pre-order pricing of $599 each and $1099 for duals. Frequency response shaping optimized to leverage typical room gain for true 10-14hz extension in all but the largest of room environments.

* Value18

Larger vented subwoofer. Similar in size, style, and overall performance to our best selling V1811. High performance/high sensitivity 18" NEO woofer with shorting rings for inductance control, 600 watt amplifier, DSP enabled. Expected pre order pricing of $999 each or $1849 for duals.

* Two finish options for each. Black Oak and Black Matte.
* Traditional style grills.
* Both products are front firing.
* Each product will be inspected, measured, and put thru a variety of performance checks here in Ohio before re-boxing and shipping to ensure our renown quality control standards are maintained.

Final production samples should be mid September. I will share plenty of photos of both.

Shipping begins end of NOV/early DEC.

Details on products #3 and #4 soon to follow. 15 inch and 21 inch stuff.

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Will the amps be ICE or something else?
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Will the amps be ICE or something else?
I doubt it.
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Will the amps be ICE or something else?
The amplification module itself is Pascal brand.

Perhaps not as renown as ICE in the industry but Pascal is very good..

The amplifier feature board is fully DSP enabled/controlled.

As a system I'm confident this lineup will reset the bar for cost/performance ratios at each of their respective price points.

I should have the final samples here this upcoming week for sign off.

I will share pictures as time allows.

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Couple of quick photos of the final Value12 (working title) samples.

These really look nice in my biased opinion---especially the "matte black"(on the right without grill)

450w amp WITH DSP, stout 12 inch woofer, 599/1099(single and duals).


Shop around, these will set the bar in the marketplace...end of discussion..

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Looks really good. Build quality implies it'll be quite capable...

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450w amp WITH DSP...
DSP is nice, but in particular I like the amps are not 100 watts like some less subs (albeit at lesser prices)
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DSP is nice, but in particular I like the amps are not 100 watts like some less subs (albeit at lesser prices)
In this era, there's no excuse not to incorporate a DSP frontend on the amplifier unless you're cutting costs. It's really mandatory to extract maximum performance and longevity from the system. It can be expensive though. Depending on the sophistication of the circuit, the DSP micro-processing implementation, and the overall build quality...you often double the "cost/watt" ratios.

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Hi Tom, is it too early to drop some hints about what we can expect from the Value 15? Just looking for basic info like ported or sealed, amp power, rough size, rough price..
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Hi Tom, is it too early to drop some hints about what we can expect from the Value 15? Just looking for basic info like ported or sealed, amp power, rough size, rough price..
Sorry, missed this earlier.

Nothing set at the moment. I have 3 different ideas, pretty varied. I may wait to see how the first two shake out demand wise.

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Since the value 12 will be very similar in size to the SB2000, how do you see it comparing performance wise ?
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What's the price target for these?
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Since the value 12 will be very similar in size to the SB2000, how do you see it comparing performance wise ?
I wouldnt expect our 12" to have any significant advantage overall. Edge here, edge there(to both)...probably be considered a very close match in any listening test. The svs is larger and more expensive but it's a high quality product as well.

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What's the price target for these?
Right now, 549-599.

I'm still not 100% clear on what tariffs may or may not impact things. So we'll have to play that as it comes.

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