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Hunger Games: Mockingjay Part 1


Opened wide today. It is a film that simply marks time, waiting for part 2 in a year from now.

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I can't wait to watch this.

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Not as much fun as the first two films, but the most important film of series so far. Very intense and very good, things do change in this one. See it and see

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If you don't expect as much action as the first two movies you may enjoy this. My 2nd favorite film of the series after the first one.
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I am seeing these movies because I have read the books with my son. The last 2 movies have been pretty good and solid adaptations of the books without fluff. Something I wish had been done with the Harry Potter books. I'd give it a B or B+. I didn't know that PSH had shot all of his part. It was good to see him in the movie. I like the choices of the director and editor of which parts were important.

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@fookoo_2010 Philip Seymour Hoffman's last performance will actually be Mockingjay part 2.

I saw the movie yesterday by the way, I'll comment on it later, but everytime he was on screen it reminded me how sad the movie world is without him. Such a great actor...
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I am seeing these movies because I have read the books with my son. The last 2 movies have been pretty good and solid adaptations of the books without fluff. Something I wish had been done with the Harry Potter books. I'd give it a B or B+. I didn't know that PSH had shot all of his part. It was good to see him in the movie. I like the choices of the director and editor of which parts were important.
I agree. The movies we're definitely a great reflection of the books. Can't wait to see this one!
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My kids want to see this. Hopefully I can pawn 'em off on one of their friends parents.

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Seeing it Sunday on the big screen in Dolby Atmos, can't wait!
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I got the impression that Actors that fit best into these kinds of
movies do well acting in front of and facing a gigantic Green Screen.
So much of that was used in this "film" ( shot with Digital Arri cams ).
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Watched the BD tonite.


First of all...if there ever was a more blatant attempt to split 1 movie into 2 for the sake of $$$, I don't know what it is.


I am not making this up....
Everything that had transpired in the plot by the end of Catching Fire is completely, utterly NOT advanced one centimeter in Mockingjay Part One.
The coda of MP1 brings everything right back 360 degrees to its opening.
Nothing is resolved...a complete waste of time.


Save yourself some time and $$$ and skip this movie for MP2.


WARNING: Walmart has a $16.16 BD available right now.
Unfortunately, it has lossy only audio and no Special Features.



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Watched the BD tonite.


First of all...if there ever was a more blatant attempt to split 1 movie into 2 for the sake of $$$, I don't know what it is.


I am not making this up....
Everything that had transpired in the plot by the end of Catching Fire is completely, utterly NOT advanced one centimeter in Mockingjay Part One.
The coda of MP1 brings everything right back 360 degrees to its opening.
Nothing is resolved...a complete waste of time........
I felt the same way in seeing the movie at the theater. Having just watched the BR, I am in the long process of going through the Bonus Features that seem to deal with that feeling of the third film just marking time, kind of like The Hobbit II that ended up with III and a bunch of balony. Maybe Mocking Jay Part 2 will be worthwhile, time will tell.
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Maybe Mocking Jay Part 2 will be worthwhile, time will tell.
I have not read the books, but MJ2 should move towards the conclusion of this trilogy.



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Watched the BD tonite.


First of all...if there ever was a more blatant attempt to split 1 movie into 2 for the sake of $$$, I don't know what it is.


I am not making this up....
Everything that had transpired in the plot by the end of Catching Fire is completely, utterly NOT advanced one centimeter in Mockingjay Part One.
The coda of MP1 brings everything right back 360 degrees to its opening.
Nothing is resolved...a complete waste of time.


Save yourself some time and $$$ and skip this movie for MP2.


WARNING: Walmart has a $16.16 BD available right now.
Unfortunately, it has lossy only audio and no Special Features.
The one I got from Amazon was 19.96 and has ATMOS as well as a DTS headphone X audio track. And special features.

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The one I got from Amazon was 19.96 and has ATMOS as well as a DTS headphone X audio track. And special features.
Ordinarily, I order everything from Amazon.
However, I happened to see one of Walmart's ads and thought I had found a great deal on the BD.
Oh well, you get what you pay for....


On second thought, I'm glad I didn't spend one more dollar than I did on MJ1.



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This is a trend in "final chapter" that I could do with coming to an end sooner rather than later. It seems to have become popular ever since Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows. The thing is, with HP it made sense. With HP, the model of 1 book = 1 film was already becoming strained with installments five and six. The final novel just had way too much going on spread out over too many pages to fit everything into a single film without stretching it into a 3.5 hour epic - something that would have killed it in the box office.

Then Twilight decided it needed to split the final book, even though the entire trilogy could probably have been done in only two movies. Going 1:1 is understandable. Splitting the final one was nothing more than tring to milk the patrons.

The Hobbit should probably have been 2 films each about 3 hours long, the way they had originally been planned. This would have cut almost 1.5 hours and would have avoided all the blowback from "stretching filler too far". Personally, I enjoyed all three films, but I can understand some of the resentment to having three.

The Hunger Games has bothered me since the second movie. I was actually pleasantly surprised by the first movie. It was better than I had expected b a fair margin. The second movie felt very much like it was suffering a bit too much in its role as merely a set-up for the third film. Yes, that is the nature of middle installments, but that doesn't mean that middle installments need to be devoid of their own merits. The Empire Strikes Back demonstrated that beautifully. I think the so-so installment that was Catching Fire is part of what led to Mockingjay Part 1 being such a disappointment. Catching Fire was little more than establishing the new rules for Mockingjay, but served little other purpose. That means the next part needs to start delivering on the setup. The opening scene actually does deliver a sense that something dire is happening, but then it is almost immediately shown to be little more than manufactured angst. The film never delivers on the second movie's work of creating a bridge, basically making the second movie almost as pointless as the third. At this point, I have real reservations that the final part can possibly deliver enough payoff to justify essentially having what is now two installments in a row that serve no internal purpose, but only serve the arc.
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Watched the disc yesterday. Not too bad. It's got a few stretchy moments but given the plot, how else would you do it? Any shorter, it would be silly, any longer, it would be boring. I'm sure the editing team tried both and settled on the final cut.
As for the plot hole... how could the capital with more advanced technology than what we have today, not have
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The final novel just had way too much going on spread out over too many pages to fit everything into a single film without stretching it into a 3.5 hour epic
Although I didn't read the book, Ms. Oink (who did) said the same thing.


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should probably have been 2 films each about 3 hours long, the way they had originally been planned. This would have cut almost 1.5 hours and would have avoided all the blowback from "stretching filler too far". Personally, I enjoyed all three films, but I can understand some of the resentment to having three.
FWIW, I think 4-5 hours would have been enough for The Hobbit.



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As for the plot hole... how could the capital with more advanced technology than what we have today, not have
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I wondered about that too.
But there were so many other problems with this movie that made it pale in comparison I didn't bother bringing it up.



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Too late. Already bought it. Tossed it on the ever growing 'to watch' stack. Which includes all the Hobbits.

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Too late. Already bought it.
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If you weren't hanging around here all the time, maybe you could reduce the size of that stack.



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I'm watching these films for 2 reasons: Jennifer Lawrence and Philip Seymour Hoffman. If it weren't for them...
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If you weren't hanging around here all the time, maybe you could reduce the size of that stack.
Those Hobbits are like 4 hours each. Half a day. That cuts into my red buttoning you time.

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I have not read the books, but MJ2 should move towards the conclusion of this trilogy.
Having read the books, the movies are trying hard to follow the spirit of the books. The books are kinda weird as they have Katniss a pretty odd character who I found not very likeable as a character although you could say that she is virtuous because she is brave and loyal to her friends/family. Mostly, I find her egocentric and not very smart. A lot that happens in the last book deals with the stress of what happened in the second book. Katniss is not a very willing member of the rebels and yet is apparently important as a symbol. I thought the movie did a pretty good job of catching the feeling of the books. You may think there is a lot of extra but the movie pared down what was going on significantly and hit the high points. I can basically tell you that I don't think the books are especially well written. I can say that they don't follow many of the regular tropes other than this so-called triangle which Katniss barely seems involved or interested in and yet is there.

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Those Hobbits are like 4 hours each. Half a day. That cuts into my red buttoning you time.
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Having read the books, the movies are trying hard to follow the spirit of the books. The books are kinda weird as they have Katniss a pretty odd character who I found not very likeable as a character although you could say that she is virtuous because she is brave and loyal to her friends/family. Mostly, I find her egocentric and not very smart. A lot that happens in the last book deals with the stress of what happened in the second book. Katniss is not a very willing member of the rebels and yet is apparently important as a symbol. I thought the movie did a pretty good job of catching the feeling of the books. You may think there is a lot of extra but the movie pared down what was going on significantly and hit the high points. I can basically tell you that I don't think the books are especially well written. I can say that they don't follow many of the regular tropes other than this so-called triangle which Katniss barely seems involved or interested in and yet is there.
Well, you've convinced me I'll never need to go to the used book store for this series.



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Keep in mind, Katniss is 14 years old (in the books, anyway), and as pivotal as a character as she is, she's essentially being used as a pawn by other groups/individuals with their own interests at heart throughout the books and movie. She's basically a clueless, naive teenager trying to get by as best she can. And I liked the books for the most part
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Keep in mind, Katniss is 14 years old (in the books, anyway), and as pivotal as a character as she is, she's essentially being used as a pawn by other groups/individuals with their own interests at heart throughout the books and movie. She's basically a clueless, naive teenager trying to get by as best she can. And I liked the books for the most part
Well, trying to read it with a son who is short of vocabulary . . . the author decided to have Katniss speak with every vocabulary word possible rather than just say thing simply. It was very annoying.

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I have not read the books, but MJ2 should move towards the conclusion of this trilogy.
Are you mocking this?


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Watched this tonight. Didn't mind it. Kept me entertained. The bombing scene had some great audio. Now if I could just get that darn Hanging Tree song outta my head.

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