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There you are. You can't tell comic book from realism.
What I meant by that was -- and something tells me you KNOW this already -- that Harris looks PERFECT when going off the books and injecting May's look into a real human being. You can't even BEGIN to compare Tomei (who, for some reason, you think looks "perfectly Aunt May-ish") to this look.

What's so "real" about Tomei when COMPARING HER Aunt May to the source?

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The Parker thing felt a little bit forced, so Aunt May's mostly a non-issue. Let's move on, shall we?
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The Parker thing felt a little bit forced, so Aunt May's mostly a non-issue. Let's move on, shall we?
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The indignation over May's casting is hilarious. So fervent.

I'm happy they cast Tomei. She's in her 50's and looks incredible. I'm just happy she's not my aunt, or things would be awkward.
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When you think about it, casting a woman in her 50s as Aunt May makes sense. If the Spider-Man series of films lasts a decade or more, casting an older woman injects the risk of her passing away or becoming incapacitated during that period.

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Saw this last night and it was certainly entertaining, but ultimately felt like junk food. I kept thinking about watching a pro bowl or NBA All Star game as the film rolled along since this film and those two events seemed similar to me in that all three are fun at first, but by the end feel pretty pointless, shallow and forgettable. They try to cram so much into this film that it feels like a bit of a mess. Winter Soldier was clearly a superior film, but again this was still fun and should be a great HT ride.

Also, when the big battle between all the characters happened, all I kept thinking about was the gang fight scene in Anchorman? It felt that goofy to me at times.

So there you go. If you cross an NBA All Star game with Anchorman but with superheroes you have Captain America Civil War.

Oh, the GF thought it was "good", her 7 year old LOVED it and the 10 year old seemed bored, lol. I'll watch it again on blu to get the bass/audio experience which this theater did not provide.
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TWS bored me. Different strokes, I guess....
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Saw this last night and it was certainly entertaining, but ultimately felt like junk food.

Well, what did you expect? Look at the source material. It's a comic book.
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Well, what did you expect? Look at the source material. It's a comic book.
Haha! True, but I don't feel that way about all comic films. I thought Winter Soldier (as I mentioned above) was a good film along with the first Iron Man and a few others. Was hoping for a little more substance here, but it was still a fun watch and will hopefully have a great audio/bass track on blu.
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I'm happy they cast Tomei. She's in her 50's
Give me a break (given that we're discussing the casting of a comic character here)...











She may look incredible -- and I agree with that; she's sure sexy as hell -- but she doesn't belong playing this role...if we go by this logic, why not make a Victoria's Secret model Aunt May? I know what every guy is going to respond with -- well, heck, why not!!?? But it doesn't make sense.

I'm not saying we need to make May quite as old as she appeared in some of the books -- but to go to the polar opposite with Tomei? Doesn't work. Like I mentioned, perhaps Streep, or someone similar to her, would work as a more quasi-modern May...
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Tony looked like he was looking Aunt May over and wanted some of that.
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^^ IntelliVolume, the old May has already been done and Marvel is going in a different direction, because they want to do something different from Sony. Your argument about Victoria Secret supermodels is so ridiculous, I can't take you seriously. Why do they have to stick to the comic book? Why can't she be younger looking and attractive? He's a teenager and the chances that his aunt is 50, is far more likely than her looking as though she's 70. Not to mention, a lot more women today are working out and looking much younger as they age. You're entitled to your fervent opinion on a casting choice in a comic book movie, but in my opinion, it's nothing to spend so much energy on.
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^^ IntelliVolume, the old May has already been done and Marvel is going in a different direction, because they want to do something different from Sony. Your argument about Victoria Secret supermodels is so ridiculous, I can't take you seriously. Why do they have to stick to the comic book? Why can't she be younger looking and attractive? He's a teenager and the chances that his aunt is 50, is far more likely than her looking as though she's 70. Not to mention, a lot more women today are working out and looking much younger as they age. You're entitled to your fervent opinion on a casting choice in a comic book movie, but in my opinion, it's nothing to spend so much energy on.
You can't take ME seriously? It's absolutely beyond me that you would take what I said about a supermodel comparison so seriously and, to quote you directly, with so much "energy" -- obviously, that was a far-fetched analogy/quasi-suggestion. My point was that using Tomei as Aunt May is so beyond ridiculous for this role, it's almost cringe-worthy -- I have said several times already here that Marvel doesn't HAVE to go with a decrepit-looking Aunt May, as seen in the classic books...I even supplied a clip of Meryl Streep to suggest what a "somewhat younger May" could have been portrayed as. But to make her SO drastically and ridiculously younger than what we've seen her portrayed as in print and in film is a horrible decision, any which way you cut it.

Your query that asked of me, "Why do they have to stick to the comic book?" is proof positive of precisely what is wrong with the majority of cinema-goers today and the reason why so many fans who have been waiting to see these characters come to life on the big screen are disappointed -- my God man, it's a comic book adaptation...to stray so far from origins is NOT the way it should be done. Your question makes me question taking you seriously in a comic film adaptation discussion, seriously.

And the reason why it should have so much "energy spent on it" is because many fans -- myself included and some others who I have spoken with at ComicCon events -- are VERY concerned about the direction Homecoming is going to go in based on this ridiculous casting choice. This is the same gross error as casting Michael Jordan as Johnny Storm in Josh Trank's Fantastic 4.
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Gosh, can we let this go?
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Lol. I didn't realize Aunt May had such a following. She needs her own spin off movie:

Aunt May vigilantly patrols the halls at the Sunnyside Retirement Community. Where things are normally pretty quiet. Unbeknown to our geriatric heroine, the nefarious Oink has taken up residence there. Shenanigans, fun with stool softeners and hi-jinx ensue. Movie ends with all the old timers putting in their teeth and dining on a big plate of bacon. Roll credits.
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Lol. I didn't realize Aunt May had such a following. She needs her own spin off movie:

Aunt May vigilantly patrols the halls at the Sunnyside Retirement Community. Where things are normally pretty quiet. Unbeknown to our geriatric heroine, the nefarious Oink has taken up residence there. Shenanigans, fun with stool softeners and hi-jinx ensue. Movie ends with all the old timers putting in their teeth and dining on a big plate of bacon. Roll credits.
LOL!!

Post-credit scene: oink is brought back to life with the help of a mysterious alien cephalopod who managed to lift his ban at the retirement home and give him superpowers... Evil laugh follow. Fade to black.

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Lol. I didn't realize Aunt May had such a following. She needs her own spin off movie:

Aunt May vigilantly patrols the halls at the Sunnyside Retirement Community. Where things are normally pretty quiet. Unbeknown to our geriatric heroine, the nefarious Oink has taken up residence there. Shenanigans, fun with stool softeners and hi-jinx ensue. Movie ends with all the old timers putting in their teeth and dining on a big plate of bacon. Roll credits.

Sounds like Oink bait to me!

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Should see her Twitter feed. Insane.
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Post-credit scene: oink is brought back to life with the help of a mysterious alien cephalopod who managed to lift his ban at the retirement home and give him superpowers... Evil laugh follow. Fade to black.
Haha. I was thinking the post credit scene would be a few strips of bacon pull away from the old timers chompers, sprout spider legs and scurry away. Think the head scene in The Thing. The sequel will be Marvel's Mad May: Swiney Road.

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That lil' piggy went to market and he ain't coming back.

I must have missed it. He end up on the wrong side of the Red Button again?

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Aunt May vigilantly patrols the halls at the Sunnyside Retirement Community. Where things are normally pretty quiet. Unbeknown to our geriatric heroine, the nefarious Oink has taken up residence there. Shenanigans, fun with stool softeners and hi-jinx ensue. Movie ends with all the old timers putting in their teeth and dining on a big plate of bacon. Roll credits.
Hahaha! Nice!
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Saw it over the Memorial Day weekend with my 13-year old daughter (she picked it.) Of all the Marvel characters, Captain America resonates with me the most due to his altruism. I enjoyed the first movie and thought that "Winter Soldier" was well done as a sophmore effort. I walked away from "Civil Wars" somewhat disappointed. For me, the movie had too many things going on - the Rogers/Stark dynamic, introduction of new characters, and tying up loose ends from the "Winter Soldier." I know it's based off a comic book but the one thing I couldn't wrap my head around was this one rogue person who lost his family in "Age of Ultron" was able to carry out his plan on an international scale (all by himself I might add.) He was always one step ahead and they didn't catch up with him until the end ("Finding Zemo" anyone?)

Oh yeah, Marisa Tomei can be my Aunt May anytime if you know what I mean. Bow-chicka-wow-wow. Seriously, though, if you think about it, an aunt is a generation removed i.e. your mother's sister. The Aunt May from the comic books made her look like she was two or three generations removed. I never did understand that.

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...the one thing I couldn't wrap my head around was this one rogue person who lost his family in "Age of Ultron" was able to carry out his plan on an international scale (all by himself I might add.) He was always one step ahead and they didn't catch up with him until the end ("Finding Zemo" anyone?)
Yeah, that element of the movie really pushed the boundary on "suspension of disbelief."

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Finally saw the movie. I liked it, a lot. Although there were a lot of pieces to fit in, I didn't feel that anything was glaringly out-of-place. The humour balanced nicely with the more serious plot elements, resulting in a fairly light-hearted tone for the movie (especially given the subject matters it dealt with), which prevented such an "epic" film from crashing under its own weight.
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Saw it over the Memorial Day weekend with my 13-year old daughter (she picked it.) Of all the Marvel characters, Captain America resonates with me the most due to his altruism. I enjoyed the first movie and thought that "Winter Soldier" was well done as a sophmore effort. I walked away from "Civil Wars" somewhat disappointed. For me, the movie had too many things going on - the Rogers/Stark dynamic, introduction of new characters, and tying up loose ends from the "Winter Soldier." I know it's based off a comic book but the one thing I couldn't wrap my head around was this one rogue person who lost his family in "Age of Ultron" was able to carry out his plan on an international scale (all by himself I might add.) He was always one step ahead and they didn't catch up with him until the end ("Finding Zemo" anyone?)
I agree with you about the "too much stuff going on here" aspect, definitely -- to me, it felt like a sort of rehash of Age of Ultron...that's precisely why I have been saying that what they should have done was introduce a solitary Cap adversary (which would have been perfect in setting up the Crossbones story from the end of Winter Soldier, after we see Rumlow surviving the building collapse). However, I didn't quite walk away feeling "disappointed;" I will definitely revisit this with a Blu-ray purchase...

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Oh yeah, Marisa Tomei can be my Aunt May anytime if you know what I mean. Bow-chicka-wow-wow. Seriously, though, if you think about it, an aunt is a generation removed i.e. your mother's sister. The Aunt May from the comic books made her look like she was two or three generations removed. I never did understand that.
The point is, though, that Stan Lee and cohorts DID go with that look for May in the printed narrative -- so why try and make her something she's SO not? I GET that Tomei is 50 and that people CAN have aunts that age, of course -- but her look is not in line in any sense of the term with what May looked or acted like in the books. That's why I keep saying Rosemary Harris was so perfect in the role...she LOOKED like May (as did Cliff Robertson, IMO, as Uncle Ben); another member here agreed adamantly with me on this ridiculous casting decision (Tomei). This smells like, to me, another "we gotta go politically correct on this one or NO ONE will be able to relate to this character!" angle, which I disapprove of wholeheartedly. Making Bond gay (which has been rumored) or dark-skinned? Making Johnny Storm in Fantastic 4 dark skinned? Making Aunt May look like a cougar on the prowl for teenage flesh? Ughhhhhh....

Now, is Tomei smokin' hot, especially for her age? You bet. Remember how delicious she looked in My Cousin Vinny? But she doesn't WORK here. People continue to say "it was such a small part she played in Civil War...it doesn't matter..." -- but what fans are concerned with (and I spoke to some at a ComicCon event about it) is how this decision by Marvel is going to carry into the standalone Homecoming film, because May will undoubtedly be on full display as a major character in that.

Additionally: I'm not saying, once again, that May should be portrayed necessarily as the "quasi knocking-on-death's-door hag" as seen in those graphics I provided pages back in a modern film adaptation; THAT would be glaringly out of place. But I think Snyder and his C.S.A. casting people did a decent job of "modernizing" Clark's Earth mother and father in Man of Steel for a more modern audience, going with Costner and Lane; they were "older" but not super-grandparent age...but going with Tomei as May is not the same thing. I think there needs to be a compromise somewhere in between there...

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NOBODY CARES ABOUT AUNT MAY!! Now back to our show....
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*hee hee* I hear you. Heaven help us if they introduced Kim Kardashian in a red wig as Mary Jane in "Homecoming."

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*hee hee* I hear you. Heaven help us if they introduced Kim Kardashian in a red wig as Mary Jane in "Homecoming."
Now why would they do that?? (Then again, this is modern-day Hollywood)...

BTW -- What part of Nevada you in? Did you see Civil War at the Colonade on Eastern?
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Now why would they do that?? (Then again, this is modern-day Hollywood)...

BTW -- What part of Nevada you in? Did you see Civil War at the Colonade on Eastern?
No sir. Wrong end of the state. Up in Reno. Saw it at the Century. Looking forward to seeing it on blu-ray, this time at the girlfriend's house. I just got her a PSA 15V sub which means she now has a better set-up than myself.

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No sir. Wrong end of the state. Up in Reno. Saw it at the Century. Looking forward to seeing it on blu-ray, this time at the girlfriend's house. I just got her a PSA 15V sub which means she now has a better set-up than myself.
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