Originally Posted by d3code
that is the problem with this movie. Lex luthor in here is like a forced nerd charcther to please the nerds among us. but it is forced. same as wonder women is forced. it does not feel natural added in the movie. also Lex as you mentioned is a strong minded charchter. flawed yes. but he is strong. not some hippy nerd guy.
action wise this movie is really good. but it the directing is like a mtv videoclip. t. defintly is worth the price of admission for the action scenes. but dont expect dark knight awesomeness in terms of story telling. because for me the dark knight is the best comic to movie adaption so far.
if you guys want, i can spoiler, but i think it is best for after the weekend when lots of people have seen it?
I haven't seen the film yet, but right off the bat I can say that I agree with your first assessment regarding Luthor -- that he was thrown in to appease the fanboys and nerds that grew up with the books (we're all included here). I don't understand where the choice to cast Eisenberg came from, unless they were going for an origin story of the character -- this would make more sense, in that we'd see a young, millennial-esque douche such as this create the Lex Corp. dynasty. You are completely right regarding the Luthor character being "stronger" and nothing like what he's portrayed as in Dawn of Justice
...in my opinion, no one has done this better than Gene Hackman (though by today's standards his performance is definitely campy and goofy). To me, he IS Lex Luthor -- Kevin Spacey didn't do the character any justice, with his awkward gestures and clichéd (for Spacey) line deliveries. It's almost like Marvel's problem with Fantastic 4
-- no one can seem to get the character right.
What happened to the marketing posters which portrayed Eisenberg as bald and menacing? Or were these mostly fan-driven quasi-phonies? I think he COULD have worked in the film, had they made him look like that...
Discussing the film in here is fine, so long as you warn about spoilers, as I have been doing when clipping critics' comments -- as far as the aesthetics of the film that you mentioned and the editing, the trailers gave all that rapid-fire MTV-style editing away, with much of the CGI looking a bit haphazard in the fight sequences (a problem that burdens most of Snyder's work when it involves special effects; just look at Man of Steel
, which had some sloppy action sequences with regard to logistics). As far as Chris Nolan goes with his Dark Knight
saga, I respect the way he brought a real world, grounded feel to comic material -- however, sometimes I felt like it was TOO well-grounded in the way Bale moved about in the suit, sometimes coming across as "choppy" and "clunky" in his movements. In Batman Begins
, I understand he was first donning the cape and cowl and "finding himself," but much of the action stunt work looked slow and "unprofessional" to me as Bale moved in the suit; this carried over to The Dark Knight
in scenes such as when Bale hops onto the side of Scarecrow's van as he's trying to escape and attempts to cut through the van's exterior with his "super duper can opening" device...the whole thing looked "off" to me.
Now, looking at the way he's taking out the criminals in the clips from the Dawn of Justice
trailers, in my opinion THIS is the way Batman should move and act -- LIGHTNING quick, throwing guys through walls and all over the place with no mercy. From the trailers, at least, it seems Affleck had this aspect down perfect -- though it's a bit surprising because he's supposed to be an older, more weathered Wayne in this, and he appears to be fighting and defending himself much better than he ever did in the Nolan films.