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The second half of the movie was ruined by too much action
And it was too LOUD (I must be getting old)
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The second half of the movie was ruined by too much action
And it was too LOUD (I must be getting old)
Excessive loudness is common in today's movies.
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The second half of the movie was ruined by too much action
And it was too LOUD (I must be getting old)
Too much action - in a terminator movie?

Now i definitely have to see this...
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The second half of the movie was ruined by too much action
And it was too LOUD (I must be getting old)
Agree with the loud part. I did not see the movie in a theater with good sound though, and could barely make out some of the dialogue.

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I finally watched the movie last week. Not the best AV in that theater but was acceptable. I enjoyed the pace and action but was disappointed with the direction they took the story in.
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and all female cast (except mandatory Arnie's part) just seem out of place to me.

Having said that, I hope they continue with the franchise and mark a clean break from Linda Hamilton and Arnold from this point onward. I am a fan of Arnold but I think its time to move on with new cast(or even reboot from start with new cast).

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The Studios and your whole post are wrong.

If the movie was good it would have made a killing. Look at The Joker, it's rated R, came out October 4th and did not cater to anything your talking about.

This movie catered to exactly what you are talking about and alienated its old core and failed. So move on.
I was disturbed by some of the violence in the movie. At times, I felt like I was watching a Wolverine movie, rather than a Terminator movie.

I was not "alienated" though. On the contrary, I enjoyed seeing Linda Hamilton and Arnie ("the old folk") back in the saddle again. And was glad to watch something that didn't have capes, storm-troopers, xenomorphs, or Star Fleet for a change. I'm surprised they didn't bring Michael Biehn back as well.

I also don't equate box office with good or bad. The movie is not for everyone though. Especially not for younger viewers.

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Having said that, I hope they continue with the franchise and mark a clean break from Linda Hamilton and Arnold from this point onward. I am a fan of Arnold but I think its time to move on with new cast(or even reboot from start with new cast).
I wouldn't mind seeing the franchise go in a different direction as well. I actually like Salvation, and would not mind seeing more of the future world. More robots would be good imo.
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I actually like Salvation, and would not mind seeing more of the future world.
It's the only one of the 6 Terminator movies that was different. The other 5 all use the same plot (machines send assassin back in time, resistance sends protector). While I thought 'Salvation' was an OK movie, I was hoping that it would be the template for future Terminator sequels: each movie having a different lead, while familiar characters (John Connor, Kyle Reese) stayed in supporting/background roles (the way Iron Man was used in the new Spider-Man movies).
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I also liked that Salvation finally moved the story forward. But that's the ONLY thing I liked about it.

And the opening scenes of Genisys were great because they used the original aesthetic with PURPLE lasers. And we finally got to see the famous moment when Kyle is sent back in time. That scene was originally in the script for T2. Everything after that was trash. Also probably the worst casting ever in every major role.

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Salvation had some great daylight shots of that ship by the canyon. It's been a while, but that's what I remember about it.
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Terminator Genisys was complete garbage from casting to story.

Terminator Salvation was a good idea, it would have been nice to move foward with that story, but I don't think that world looked like the world we see in the first two Terminator movies.

And the biggest problem with every Terminator movie since Judgement Day is the last 1/3 of every movie is absolute garbage. It's as if they started each and didn't have a clue how to finish it or they all tried to come up with the dumbest ending. Most likely they didn't have the final stuff written till after they started and still couldn't figure it out.

In Rise of the Machines it gets really stupid after they all just show up in her fathers secure military base running in to warn him. On one side you have the TX and on the other side Arnie, John, and Brewster. (The movie is kinda stupid before this, but that about seals the deal on stupid)

In Salvation it happens when they break into Skynet and just walk around and all of a sudden the place looks like a Apple Store and then at the end when they decide to give Connor the heart transplant operation in the desert.

And Genisys is just dumb from beginning to end.

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It's the only one of the 6 Terminator movies that was different. The other 5 all use the same plot.
I cannot confirm or deny this, for those who haven't seen Dark Fate. But you make a great point.

And that is one of the reasons I like Salvation.
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Salvation had some great daylight shots of that ship by the canyon. It's been a while, but that's what I remember about it.
Salvation had some pretty cool tech, including the Moto-Terminators.
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BTW, repeating the same plot doesn't automatically make for a bad Terminator movie. I loved 'Judgement Day', but even the films own opening narration let you know that it had the same plot as before:
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BTW, repeating the same plot doesn't automatically make for a bad Terminator movie. I loved 'Judgement Day', but even the films own opening narration let you know that it had the same plot as before:
That's true. Execution is everything. A good movie is a good movie.
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