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ADU 05-26-2019 12:09 PM

Science-fiction
 
Post and discuss science-fiction related stuff here (e.g. trailers, reviews, news, etc.). Old or new, it makes no difference.

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ADU 05-26-2019 12:17 PM

Last night I watched The Force Awakens on Blu-ray. It was pretty good. First time view.


Dean Roddey 05-26-2019 12:52 PM

I re-watched The Matrix last night. Is there any effects heavy sci-fi movie that old that holds up remotely that well? It still looks incredible today.

ADU 05-26-2019 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Roddey (Post 58101310)
I re-watched The Matrix last night. Is there any effects heavy sci-fi movie that old that holds up remotely that well?

Matrix came out in 1999. Most of these you will already know. But the visuals hold up pretty well on these imo...

Metropolis (1927)
2001 (1968)
Alien (1979)
Blade Runner (1982) - The Final Cut has a nasty cyan hue to it, so I suggest an earlier version, or the new remastered UHD.
Aliens (1986)
The Abyss (1989)
T2 (1991)
Independence Day (1996) - Some of the pyrotechnics still look a little soft. But aside from that, the recently remastered 2K and 4K discs look very good! Definitely worth another viewing, if you have't seen the film recently on a good display.
Starship Troopers (1997)
Dark City (1998)
Sphere (1998)

I haven't seen the new remastered edition of Close Encounters, but that might also be worth a look.

ADU 05-26-2019 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Roddey (Post 58101310)
I re-watched The Matrix last night. Is there any effects heavy sci-fi movie that old that holds up remotely that well? It still looks incredible today.

A couple more recent films (some of which you may not have seen) that also hold up pretty well in the visuals dept...

Jurassic Park III (2001)
The Time Machine (2002) - The original 1960 version also has some very creative effects, though I'm not sure they'd hold up as well as this version.
AVP (2004)
The Chronicles of Riddick (2004) - Been awhile since I saw this one, but I think the visuals were pretty good, for the most part.
War of the Worlds (2005)
Terminator Salvation (2009)
John Carter (2012)

ADU 05-26-2019 02:03 PM

Teaser for the new CBS web series "Picard".


greenjp 05-26-2019 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Roddey (Post 58101310)
I re-watched The Matrix last night. Is there any effects heavy sci-fi movie that old that holds up remotely that well? It still looks incredible today.

I think the original Star Wars holds up great. The practical effects were nearly perfect. Phantom Menace on the other hand is terrible.



Terminator 2, Jurassic Park, and The Matrix are the trifecta of 90's action movies where the effects were unbelievable (ie you'd never seen anything like it before) and thus an element of the movies in and of themselves. Now we're at the point where anything somebody can imagine can be put on screen so effects don't do anything for me anymore (see the entire Marvel catalogue). Great direction/stunt work is more impressive nowadays.



I just finished watching the new(er) Battlestar Galactica series, the effects in that are excellent even 10-15 years later.



jeff

rezzy 05-26-2019 06:13 PM

Love the practical effects in The Thing (1982). 35-37 years later, and they're still holding up...

wmcclain 05-27-2019 06:42 AM

I saw this back when but remember nothing about it. Consensus is that it is technically fine, but dramatically slack.

It was on a list of SF films that deserve reconsideration (sorry I don't have a link). We have someone over tonight for movies and I'm going to propose:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ovieposter.jpg

-Bill

wmcclain 05-27-2019 08:51 AM

I've seen this one several times. Just a little film but it is a classic plot of space explorers discovering life and sacrificing themselves to get the word back to Earth.

Done "found footage" style.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ial_Poster.jpg

-Bill

Dean Roddey 05-27-2019 12:23 PM

Europa Report was quite good, proving yet again that you just need a good story, some good actors, and some reasonable sets.

rezzy 05-27-2019 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by wmcclain (Post 58103536)
I saw this back when but remember nothing about it. Consensus is that it is technically fine, but dramatically slack.

It was on a list of SF films that deserve reconsideration (sorry I don't have a link). We have someone over tonight for movies and I'm going to propose:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ovieposter.jpg

-Bill

Perhaps Carrie-Ann Moss will "jog" your memory....

ADU 05-27-2019 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by wmcclain (Post 58103536)
I saw this back when but remember nothing about it. Consensus is that it is technically fine, but dramatically slack.

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...ovieposter.jpg

I'm not so sure about the "technically fine" part. But that's sort of how I remember it as well. This and several other Mars-related films came out shortly after the Pathfinder/Sojourner mission, which was the first successful attempt at landing a rover on another planet. New high-resolution Mars maps were also generated around the same time. So "Martian fever" was sort of in the air. And of course, Hollywood wanted to try to capitalize on it, with mixed success.

The other films were DePalma's Mission to Mars with Gary Sinise, Carpenter's Ghosts of Mars thriller with Natasha Henstridge (of Species), and Disney's RocketMan, with Harland Williams. If you enjoy stupid sophmoronic humor and fart jokes, RocketMan is actually alot of fun. (I enjoyed it anyway.) All of the other films are sort of a mixed bag. But may still be worth a look for SF buffs.

As rezzy mentions above, Carrie-Anne Moss (fresh off The Matrix) was one of the main attractions of Red Planet. I owned it for awhile on DVD, but eventually tired of it, and dumped it. Not enough viewage to keep it around. DePalma consciously tried to evoke some of the look and feel of Kubrick's 2001 in Mission to Mars, which was a fairly decent flick with some rather striking visuals, up until the somewhat disappointing conclusion (alot of buildup for not much in the way of a payoff). Ghosts of Mars is a decent low-budget actioner, but not really up to the level of some of Carpenter's better works, like The Thing.

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Originally Posted by wmcclain (Post 58103536)
It was on a list of SF films that deserve reconsideration (sorry I don't have a link).

Lesser know films (or TV shows) that are worth a look would be a good topic for discussion here.

Gorilla Killa 05-27-2019 02:26 PM

This was a great movie, I just recently watched it and not sure how I missed it. The ending was not what I was expecting and would have preferred something else. I would put this in the Europa Report type film. Good cast and was well done. Definitely worth a watch imo. As always ymwv, even with the ending I still give 2 thumbs up
https://resizing.flixster.com/32FrRH...A7MTUzNjsyMDQ4

ADU 05-27-2019 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by greenjp (Post 58101580)
I think the original Star Wars holds up great. The practical effects were nearly perfect.

The practical/model effects in the original Star Wars were very good for the time. I was fairly impressed though by the seamlessness of the graphics and effects in Force Awakens. I've only seen the film once so far. And was not watching with an overly critical eye. But the digital effects seemed to be married together pretty well with the live-action footage. And generally had a pretty "filmic" look to them. There were only a couple shots of star cruisers that looked slightly fake to me.

Overall, I thought it was pretty well done, though a bit over-the-top at times. I plan to give the movie another look though, before returning it to my local library later this week. So we'll see how well it holds together after another viewing. ;)

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Originally Posted by greenjp (Post 58101580)
Phantom Menace on the other hand is terrible.

Probably no surprise, but I'm not as down on this film as some others. It has some decent action sequences. Only thing I didn't really like was the atrocious edge-enhancement on the Blu-ray.

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Originally Posted by greenjp (Post 58101580)
I just finished watching the new(er) Battlestar Galactica series, the effects in that are excellent even 10-15 years later.

Haven't see the new BSG, but it gets universally good reviews here.

Mikazaru 05-27-2019 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ADU (Post 58101194)
Last night I watched The Force Awakens on Blu-ray. It was pretty good. First time view.

https://youtu.be/sGbxmsDFVnE

I'm curious -- why did you wait so long to see The Force Awakens? This was an "event" movie when it came out (especially in N. America).

ADU 05-27-2019 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikazaru (Post 58105358)
I'm curious -- why did you wait so long to see The Force Awakens? This was an "event" movie when it came out (especially in N. America).

Just slow I guess. :) In days past, I probably would just have bought the movie on Blu-ray. Money has been very tight though. So I waited till I could rent it free from my library.

Also, I'm not generally a follower of trends or "water-cooler" chat. So there was no particular urgency for me to see it.

rezzy 05-27-2019 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikazaru (Post 58105358)
I'm curious -- why did you wait so long to see The Force Awakens? This was an "event" movie when it came out (especially in N. America).

A bit tepid on Star Wars myself, but this was a must-see because it was in giant-screen 15/70 IMAX. Georgeous

ADU 05-27-2019 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADU (Post 58104990)
This and several other Mars-related films came out shortly after the Pathfinder/Sojourner mission...

Tim Burton's Mars Attacks! also came out around the same time in 1996.



ADU 05-27-2019 05:13 PM

And Species II (1998) also had a Mars tie-in...


Available on several free w/ads streaming svcs btw, with the other Species films. All are rated R.

ADU 05-27-2019 05:40 PM

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...randed_imp.jpg

Another Mars flick from 2001, directed by a Spanish director named Maria Lidon (aka Luna, and "Susana Sanchez" in the film). I may have seen this at some point, but if so, I don't remember it well enough to comment. Stars Vincent Gallo, Joaquim de Almeida, and Maria de Medeiros of Pulp Fiction.


tenthplanet 05-27-2019 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Dean Roddey (Post 58104710)
Europa Report was quite good, proving yet again that you just need a good story, some good actors, and some reasonable sets.

I actually saw this in a theater that does indie flicks. This film is more like traditional book style sci-fi brought to life. Another reason to support indie/small films. :)

tenthplanet 05-27-2019 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ADU (Post 58105742)
Tim Burton's Mars Attacks! also came out around the same time in 1996.

https://youtu.be/BB61nauFkds

https://youtu.be/HK6moeA-w5w

Ack ack aaack ! :D

Tack 05-28-2019 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tenthplanet (Post 58106800)
Ack ack aaack ! :D

That movie scared the crap out of one of my kids. So dumb of me, I'm thinking "this is funny", meanwhile it killed him for a couple years. :o

Tack 05-28-2019 08:32 AM

Anybody take the plunge on Replicas yet? Pretty heavily panned but you never know.



rezzy 05-28-2019 01:12 PM

Got Replicas out of Redbox a few months ago; found it interesting at best. With a good director and tighter script, it could've been really good.

Tack 05-28-2019 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by rezzy (Post 58109184)
Got Replicas out of Redbox a few months ago; found it interesting at best. With a good director and tighter script, it could've been really good.

Thanks, if you didn't outright shut it off, I'll prolly give a shot one of these days.

tenthplanet 05-28-2019 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tack (Post 58107738)
Anybody take the plunge on Replicas yet? Pretty heavily panned but you never know.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9GO3pPbudA

We'll see what streaming service or pay tv it lands on, I don't rent discs. Buy them yes, rent em no. :)

8mile13 05-29-2019 06:05 AM

I watched that Bumblebee movie yesterday (budget $135 million). Hailee Steinfeld is like a pro diver in this movie (she won medal as a kid). She dives twice. The second time one can see her clearly when she is on the springboard, then she dives, a few gaps, her being replaced by a pro who does the perfect dive.. So they get all these special effects right but making the fake dive scene convincing is to much for em...

rezzy 05-29-2019 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tack (Post 58109548)
Thanks, if you didn't outright shut it off, I'll prolly give a shot one of these days.

No, I did not "oink" it; YMMV... :p


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