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post #961 of 1053 Old 03-11-2014, 10:40 AM
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@pamajestic : thanks. I was afraid Baltimore would be out-of-reach. I imagine you pick themup just fine out in Gettysburg. smile.gif It is worth pointing out that when I originally did my channel scans, I could pick them up, even with the antenna pointing WNW. Signal levels were really low, 10-20% measured on TV with no splits.

It's good to know about the VHF low/high combiner to keep the FM and VHF TV separate. I suppose getting a standalone VHF antenna also makes sense, over a combined one like the AntennaCraft HBU-22. That way I can point the VHF antenna directly at WHTM and leave the UHF antenna alone.

Is there a risk that the amp you posted will overload existing channels? 22dB seems like a lot. Real channel 8 is already in the high 90s, and real channels 21 and 36 are very strong as well (with no splits in line).
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Yup, all of Baltimore and a few Washington come in fine here.

With the 80 feet of cable plus the splitter I don’t think overload will be a problem. Pete Higgins did a very detailed review of the RCA amp on the High Def Forum last summer with additional contributions from “ADTech” and he addressed overload in the review. The short of it is he has a tower 3 miles from his house and he did not have overload. I don’t want to link to another forum here, so shoot me a PM if you can’t find the review by searching. Pete includes his Tvfool so you can see what he is dealing with.
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Wow, I'm slow to act on things.

I'm putting together things to buy and found the amp and antenna much cheaper on Amazon (where I also get free shipping from my Prime membership). I can't seem find a HLSJ on there. Any other options except Solid Signal?
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Perhaps MCM or Summit Source.
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I ended up finding it on cablesatellitesupply.com for $3 shipped. Hopefully it's real. smile.gif
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WGCB-49 add “The Works” on sub-channel .3 a few weeks ago. It looks like classic movies mostly from the 50’s and 60’s. I did not find an official web-site for it, but Titan TV does show the listings.
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Okay, got everything installed in the attic on Saturday.

#1: PVC Conduit is measured by the inside diameter, and PVC conduit clamps are measured by the outside diameter. This helped fulfill the First Commandment of Projects, "Thou shalt go to Home Depot at least twice." 1" conduit worked great for an antenna mast. I had previously strung up my home-made UHF antenna with string.

#2: AntennaCraft FMSS works great! I can now pick up every local FM station with no static, and a whole lot of other stations that I didn't know about (albeit with some static, but not unlistenable). It's very nice having FM in the basement family room.

#3: AntennaCraft Y5-7-13 was a disappointment. Pretty large, at 5' long and 3' wide, but only marginal improvement on reception of WHTM-27 (real channel 10). I guess reliabily picking it up with an attic antenna isn't going to happen in my location. It's not a huge deal, since we rarely watch ABC, but it does feel like I threw away $20. I'm going to take out all of the splitters tonight to see if I can get a realistic signal level.


The RCA amp and HLSJ combiner work well. I noticed no degradation of my UHF signals after hooking up the FM and VHF.

@pamajestic: Could it be the spacing of the antennas? I figured I didn't really need to worry about interference because the amp would block VHF from going to the UHF antenna and vice versa. The antennas are all about 3' from each other at their closest.



And the Works channel looks like fun. Windows Media Center doesn't pick up any listings for it yet.
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AntennaCraft Y5-7-13 was a disappointment. . . . . it does feel like I threw away $20. . . . I noticed no degradation of my UHF signals after hooking up the FM and VHF. . . . . . Could it be the spacing of the antennas?
I would try moving the FM antenna away from the VHF antenna at least 4 feet. Have you tested reception with the FM antenna disconnected from the HLSJ? The strong signal from 96.9 FM has the potential to cause issues with channel 10.
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^ Good idea, I'll try that out tonight. It makes sense as 96.9 is about half of the 192-198 of VHF 10.

96.1 FM is pretty strong too, and right in the channel 10 range as well.

I thought the HLSJ would have taken care of that.
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The new year brought some affiliation changes…….

WLYH 15.2 Grit replaces Live Well
WGAL 8.2 MeTV replaces This Network

With MeTV moving to WGAL, WGCB 49 is now a Cozi affiliate with some religious and paid programming mixed in on 49.1. The national Cozi schedule on 49.2, and The Works on 49.3.
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Potential Sinclair subchannel shuffle in Harrisburg:
WHP: 21.1 CBS (720p HD), 21.2 CW (720p HD), 21.3 MNT (480i SD), 21.4 Grit (480i SD)
WLYH (spun off): 15.1 ????

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The posts I made here and on other threads are just pure speculation on just what might happen in these markets, with the FCC's crackdown on JSAs/SSAs and the impending incentive auction. Some of you may have been offended, and for that I apologize.

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The new year brought some affiliation changes…….

WLYH 15.2 Grit replaces Live Well
WGAL 8.2 MeTV replaces This Network

With MeTV moving to WGAL, WGCB 49 is now a Cozi affiliate with some religious and paid programming mixed in on 49.1. The national Cozi schedule on 49.2, and The Works on 49.3.
I miss the Live Well Network already. Steven & Chris was fun as well as Motion and My Family Recipe Rocks.
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Potential Sinclair subchannel shuffle in Harrisburg:
WHP: 21.1 CBS (720p HD), 21.2 CW (720p HD), 21.3 MNT (480i SD), 21.4 Grit (480i SD)
WLYH (spun off): 15.1 ????
I missed that DOJ decision in the news. That could be big. Maybe WLYH could become an ION affiliate.
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There is definitely some activity at the FCC about it.
http://www.fcc.gov/document/fcc-adop...rennial-review

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw WHP and WLYH split in the next couple of years.
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Potential Sinclair subchannel shuffle in Harrisburg:
WHP: 21.1 CBS (720p HD), 21.2 CW (720p HD), 21.3 MNT (480i SD), 21.4 Grit (480i SD)
WLYH (spun off): 15.1 ????
WHP is broadcasting in 720P? Since when? Weren't they always in line with CBS, broadcasting in 1080i?
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While I know Comcast doesn't carry it, a lot of WHP's programming is in HD on DirecTV. So they're being offered an HD feed.
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Anyone know the resolution Comcast broadcasts in through their subscription HD cable service in the Harrisburg area? Trying to find out if it is possible to get a basic HD DVR/cable box through Comcast that receives a 1080p signal. Keep getting different answers each time I talk to Comcast. Thanks
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Anyone know the resolution Comcast broadcasts in through their subscription HD cable service in the Harrisburg area? Trying to find out if it is possible to get a basic HD DVR/cable box through Comcast that receives a 1080p signal. Keep getting different answers each time I talk to Comcast. Thanks
I think the X1 will output 1080p, but it really doesn't matter. Most, if not all, cable and broadcast networks are 720p and 1080i.
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I think the X1 will output 1080p, but it really doesn't matter. Most, if not all, cable and broadcast networks are 720p and 1080i.

Thanks for the info - sad that 4k is on the way and we don't yet have broadcasts in 1080p.
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Thanks for the info - sad that 4k is on the way and we don't yet have broadcasts in 1080p.
I think 4K may use a more efficient encryption method than 1080p.. thereby making 1080p a much more quantitative stream (meaning more bandwidth). There is virtually no 4K programming, so if getting a 4K TV.. what are you gonna watch?
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Changes coming to the CW in central PA

Changes are coming to the CW in central Pennsylvania.

The CW 15 will soon become The CW Central PA.

If viewers are watching the CW 15 using an antenna, beginning January 1, televisions will need to be re-scanned to find channel 21.3. That is where The CW Central PA will be found.

To re-scan a TV, run the "scan" function on the digital television or converter box. Usually the "scan" function by pressing "set-up" or "menu" on the remote control.

Consult the owner's manual for more detailed instructions on how to perform a channel scan. Once the scan is finished, you should be set up to watch The CW on 21.3.
http://www.local21news.com/news/feat...W-245387.shtml

Hasn't shown up on RabbitEars yet. What will take CW's place on 15.1? And will 21.3 be HD?

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If 15 isn't in HD, I won't be watching it anymore. Luckily I have an ota antenna and can get 54.1 cw from Baltimore. I checked their website and don't see any changes for them.

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And will 21.3 be HD?
21.3 is already broadcasting CW programming and it is in HD.

I’m not sure what to make of this. For years Sinclair operated WLYH under a management agreement with Nextar but the station was sold in November to Armstrong Williams under the name Howard Stirk Holdings.

I’m guessing Sinclair retained the CW rights hence the move to WHP. But what will be the main programming on WLYH starting January 1st? I guess for the short term Grit and Comet will continue.




In other Harrisburg news, WHTM gave Retro TV the boot and replaced it with ION a few weeks ago.
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I noticed watching the CW last night that the logo now reads, "CW Central PA" and a few times where it actually showed 21-3. Well....there goes the picture quality for CBS 21 and the CW (formerly CW 15). With 21 now cramming two HD feeds one SD feed (myNetwork TV) into its broadcast, it's got to be ugly. I can't wait to see what live football is going to look like. I typically watch Red Zone, but I will have to pay closer attention to the next game carried on CBS to see what it looks like.
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So, Harrisburg doesn't have a CW affiliate anymore? I was highly pissed when The Flash didn't record last night. Directv has dropped 15. I get OTA and 15.1 in the guide is not the CW. Directv doesn't update their sub channels in the guide and I don't have 21.3 which probably isn't true HD anyway. I didn't try it directly on the TV, but I wouldn't be able to record it anyway. I don't watch anything in real time. Luckily I get 54.1 from Baltimore OTA so I had to change The Flash, Arrow, Legends of Tomorrow and Supernatural to 54.1. Directv does carry a national CW channel that I was surprised that I get, but its not HD. I would be greatly pissed if I didn't get 54.1.

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From what I'm reading, it says CW is now at WHP-TV channel 21-3.
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