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Another USB 'toy'. red no less. Sheesh................ I'd like to see a typical RG6 cable connected to it. (even a RG59) See how long that USB port lasts.

(BTW; It's not a "tuner card". Those are internal. That really belongs in the Hardware sub-forum )

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Of more interest is this;

http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Rele...C-347803A1.pdf

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If anyone here is still using Cable Cards, or has tried to rent/lease them for your DVR or any device that accepts them have any issue with Spectrum?

Apparently, Spectrum is either stopped the practice or giving customers a hard time, at least in certain markets, specifically the old Batavia system; Akron.

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FOX picture quality for the wildcard playoff game was horrible

I watched all 4 Wildcard games this weekend.
Each was on a different network [ESPN (shown on channel 7), NBC, CBS and FOX]
OTA reception on my LG OLED TV.
The first 3 games looked great as expected.
The final game on FOX looked horrible.
Every shot of the field view looked like it was 480 resolution (or worse).
The field looked color saturated (way too green)...almost fake.
The players looked like they had halos around them.
When they showed non-field shots (like close-ups of the players) it looked perfect.
It almost looked like the entire field and yard markers were graphic overlays (similar to how they do the first down and line of scrimmage markers).
Wondering if anyone else noticed this.
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WUTV Fox 29 Moving to WIVB Tower

Wow this makes no sense. Nexstar is going to stop transmitting WIVB on the Colden Tower, channel share with WNLO CW 23 and WUTV Fox 29 is petitioning the FCC to move on Nexstar WIVB tower. Nexstar has lost it mind, they will dropping an awesome signal and handing it over to Sinclair. Great move for Sinclair, they would get a power house signal and if WNYO move to Grand Island gets approved, they get to keep a great signal for Ontario. Nexstar confines it signal to Ontario and writes off most of the area south of Buffalo. Even if you factor in a possible move to ATSC 3.0, it is still away off and not a sure thing. Sinclair will come out of this move in a much stronger position then Nexstar. Here the App for WUTV Move https://enterpriseefiling.fcc.gov/da...60756ad1070c8a
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Wow this makes no sense. Nexstar is going to stop transmitting WIVB on the Colden Tower, channel share with WNLO CW 23 and WUTV Fox 29 is petitioning the FCC to move on Nexstar WIVB tower. Nexstar has lost it mind, they will dropping an awesome signal and handing it over to Sinclair. Great move for Sinclair, they would get a power house signal and if WNYO move to Grand Island gets approved, they get to keep a great signal for Ontario. Nexstar confines it signal to Ontario and writes off most of the area south of Buffalo. Even if you factor in a possible move to ATSC 3.0, it is still away off and not a sure thing. Sinclair will come out of this move in a much stronger position then Nexstar. Here the App for WUTV Move https://enterpriseefiling.fcc.gov/da...60756ad1070c8a
This is proof that Nexstar (a/k/a DEATHSTAR) don't give a "rat's ass" about OTA viewers in WNY, and never did! All they care about is money. They just love their stats that "over 95% of the market" watches them on satellite or cable. Actual viewer numbers don't mean anything anymore, and signal coverage is now of secondary importance. It's all about "market share," which always looks great "on paper." They also know that the Ontario viewers are "more loyal" than their Buffalo-area OTA viewers (and despite all the cord cutting, Buffalo OTA viewers don't count--Nexstar "bean counters" regard 'em to be "statistically insignificant.") They think "OTA is going away," because they are frickin' morons; outsiders and out-of-staters who THINK they know Buffalo better than local people do, and they think they are coming out of the spectrum repack as winners, because they're not spending money for a "new channel." The REAL winners here ARE Sinclair and FOX, which get the kind of signal that WIVB used to get on channel 4, and as far as Nexstar is concerned, "screw the legacy." R.I.P. "WBEN-TV." Hope you guys out in the fringes can watch WSEE out of Erie for your CBS. It's gonna be fun when WIVB starts telling viewers to re-scan and then see what happens! I predict FOX programming will OWN this market!

"We're for Buffalo...except most of the time, when we're for the money."

Hey, will this make FOX eventually wanna buy WUTV and the transmitter site out in Colden? There's been a lot of talk about how they'd like to own affiliates everywhere there are NFL franchises!

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Makes perfect sense to me. Perfect nonsense!

AFAIC, other than that duplicated holy roller WBNF (WNYB ), WNYO is also a waste. Their post teenage programming is mindless. I get WIVB wanting the Canadian market, but why WUTV would to move to Colden is a huge surprise to me.

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WNLO-WIVB moving to WUTV Grand Island Tower

This gets more interesting. WNLO CW 23 soon to be WIVB also, has petition the FCC to move from WNED tower to the current WUTV tower on Grand Island. I can just imagine the CRTC being flooded with U.S. broadcast applications crossing their desk. Looks like Nexstar and Sinclair's coalition for ATSC 3.0 is hard at work. I wonder if the swap of Transmitter sites in Grand Island and Colden, offset the leasing cost of the tower space. Plus, how will WNED handle any move to the ATSC 3.0 standard, will it be part of a coalition? Can't imagine WNED going to ATSC 3.0 on it's Grand Island Tower, since it could have an adverse affect on any Cable coverage it may have in Canada. If approve by the FCC here is a look at apps on the current WUTV tower http://www.rabbitears.info/tower.php...e&asrn=1019110 Here is look the apps for the Colden site, WIVB soon to be old tower site, http://www.rabbitears.info/tower.php...e&asrn=1006689 I am hoping the WUTV move to Colden happens, I will get another station to replace WIVB.
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Blame all of this on deregulation. Period! If you think otherwise, you aren't seeing the forest for the trees. This is worse than the musical channels game. Now it's musical towers.

AFA any move to ATSC 3, according to that link I posted earlier it is now optional.

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On a separate subject, Spectrum's CATV system in Genesee County (Batavia), including the Town/Village of Akron in Erie County had analog channels go dark a week or so ago.

Apparently (as probably with all their other systems), there was discontent.

WNY is scheduled between February and May to loose analog. When the data caps kick in in a couple of years (if not sooner), I can't wait to see how all of these anti-regulation Capitalists respond that have these Gigabyte level of Internet service. Let's see how long a monthly limit of say 50 or even 75GB goes.

Especially the ones over at DSL Reports that post their GB connection speed.

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AFA any move to ATSC 3, according to that link I posted earlier it is now optional.
Correct ATSC 3.0 is optional. However the repack from the last spectrum auction is mandatory, so if your a broadcaster that believes in ATSC 3.0 and you have to spend money on your tower for the repack and you have a climate of deregulation, now is the time to make the switch to ATSC 3.0 and it is mandatory to simulcast for 5 years in ATSC 1.0, if you make the switch. WNED is more interesting in serving Toronto with their signal, then western NY, at least in my opinion and Canada will not be adopting ATSC 3.0, for that matter you can debate whether Canada will continue to do OTA, they try to shut it down already, will see how they like spending more money repacking this time. Anyhow WNED will perhaps be the only station that will not want to make changes, and they don't have to, other then being left behind with what will become an outdated format.
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On a separate subject, Spectrum's CATV system in Genesee County (Batavia), including the Town/Village of Akron in Erie County had analog channels go dark a week or so ago.

Apparently (as probably with all their other systems) there was discontent.
Huh? Who the Hell would still be watching ANALOG cable in 2018? Mental patients and shut-ins with 1968 Philcos???

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A. Anyone who still owns a CRT,
B. Anyone who can't afford higher priced 'digital' CATV tiers.
C. Anyone who doesn't want/forced to use a MSO's equipment.
D. Anyone who can't tell the quality difference or doesn't care.

The above amounts to a whole bunch of viewers.

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E. Dozens of Nursing Homes & Assisted Living facilities that have CATV and have the resident supply the TV.
F. The hundred or so medical related fancy offices, waiting rooms, hospitals, specialists etc. that have a TV for the patients to view. Of course YOU would be paying for that in your next bill.

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Looks like WBXZ physical channel 17, virtual channel 56 is back on the air!

I already had them written off. 2160p here we come.

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Looks like WBXZ physical channel 17, virtual channel 56 is back on the air!

I already had them written off. 2160p here we come.
Gotta give 'em credit for stickin' with it through all the problems they've been having on top of One Seneca. I hear tell that dealing with the new landlord is no picnic for them, or for the new owner of WECK (who has an FM translator up there).

Maybe 'BXZ has a new 9-volt battery now.

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I thought they (like all past owners from TV6 back in the 70's and on) were in/on the Rand building. In fact I thought I caught an article somewhere some years ago on that.
Nor I knew WECK FM was there either, I figured they just tacked another antenna on their tower in Cheektowaga. Thought downtown makes more sense, not to many listeners in that cemetery out there.

OT, but an interesting read on WNIA, err, WECK;
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknF...wiki/WECK.html

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I thought they (like all past owners from TV6 back in the 70's and on) were in/on the Rand building. In fact I thought I caught an article somewhere some years ago on that.
Nor I knew WECK FM was there either, I figured they just tacked another antenna on their tower in Cheektowaga. Thought downtown makes more sense, not to many listeners in that cemetery out there.

OT, but an interesting read on WNIA, err, WECK;
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknF...wiki/WECK.html
Interesting about WECK. Their 102.9 translator is very directional (to avoid Hamilton, Ontario's 102.9), and also shares the One Seneca rooftop with WDTB-LD 39 (RF 29), WBXZ's RF 17 (which is indeed up there...), channel 7's STL link, tower cams, and even a standby backup transmitter for 97 Rock who used it when they were relocating their stick from South Wales to 2077 Elmwood in Buffalo some time years ago.

I think the Rand building used to be home to another /different LPTV which was once on analog RF 69 something like 25-30 years ago. And I remember that "TV 6" microwave pay TV operation. What a joke! There were bootleg "coffee cantenna converters" everywhere; there was even a Radio Shack near me that sold them "under the counter." I don't think the people who ran it had a clue. It was one of the easiest "pay TV" signals to decode. Really, there were 15-year old kids who could homebrew the converters!

BTW, for those who don't know downtown Buffalo, THIS is the One Seneca Tower where the LPTV transmitters live:


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If you look around, there still are TV 6 antennas on homes rooftops, the quality was just as bad as WBXZ's sources.

BTW, why was/is there a problem with the building owner?

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That WECK link is an old copy of the Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WECK

The station is now owned by veteran Buffalo radio personality/salesman Buddy Shula (his air name).
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the station's national news updates switched from Fox News to CBS News.
Absolutely the best news (no pun intended). At least it's not "fake".

Surprise here about John Zach, hopefully it's not related to the above;
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it appears that Zach didn't like the news direction the music station was going in.
Maybe Zach wasn't that great of a choice.

Too bad, they couldn't get a higher powered FM allocation.

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If you look around, there still are TV 6 antennas on homes rooftops, the quality was just as bad as WBXZ's sources.

BTW, why was/is there a problem with the building owner?
The way I heard it: right after Douglas Development got One Seneca “for a song” last year they told the remaining tenants that they want to do a complete renovation of the exterior from top to bottom and they aren’t really too happy with the way that the roof is looking right now. That was not exactly good news for anyone who has a transmitter up there without a long term lease. Without such a deal, a new landlord can really screw with his rooftop tenants when it comes to raising the rent, limiting hours of access, etc.

And, I’m not sure if this is related, but the new WECK owner “Buddy Shula” (a.k.a. Bill Ostrander) just applied for another FM translator for his AM 1230 signal (100.5, actually licenced to Tonawanda, NY) to be sited at the WNED-TV tower!

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Silly, both locations are with receiving distance. About as bad as that useless holy roller TV translator duplication on Gilligan's Island.
I see their existing coverage favors south of the city, not north or east where the population is. Frankly, using their existing tower makes more sense in every aspect, too much signal is wasted over the lake as it is now..

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It's gonna be fun when WIVB starts telling viewers to re-scan and then see what happens!

WIVB started last night during NCAA. Their end date is April 16.
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Seems like Spring is almost here...all of a sudden, changes are finally underway. In addition to those "screamers" WIVB has been running, WNLO just ran a promo that says stuff like: "WIVB, our sister station is for Buffalo...we're WNLO, and we're for Buffalo, too!" Like, they don't want us to know that in reality it's more like their signal is REALLY for Niagara Falls?

Oh...I geddit! 23 is 4 Buffalo 2! Yeah, they're real brilliant over at DEATHSTAR, ain't they?

And WBBZ suddenly is testing 67.5. Anyone wanna venture to guess why?

Gonna be interesting during the next few weeks. Can't wait to see how fast FOX 29 will be able to re-crystal that soon-to-go-dark WIVB RF 39 transmitter down to RF 36!

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According to "RabbitEars";
https://rabbitears.info/repackchanne...=&lss=&status=
https://rabbitears.info/repackchanne...=&lss=&status=

Here is the upcoming disaster (1st column is the new assignment);

WNY;
36....14....WUTV.......Sinclair
15....15....WBNF-CD..HME Equity Fund
32....32....WNLO.......Nexstar
33....33....WGRZ......Tegna
34....38....WKBW.....Scripps-Howard
32....39....WIVB......Nexstar
31....43....WNED.....PBS
16....49....WNYO.....Sinclair
7.....7......WBBZ......ME TV
24....23....WPXJ......Ion Media
5.....26....WNYB.....Tri-State

Ontario;
8......9......CFTO....CTV
19....19....CICA....TVO
20....20....CBLT....CBC
25....25....CBLFT...CBC Fr
26....40....CJMT....OMNI-2
17....41....CIII....Global
30....44....CITY....CITYTV
18....47....CFMT....OMNI-1
15....15....CHCH....Channel 0 ?
35....35....CHCJ....CTV-2 ?
14....36....CITS....Xroads
29....42....CKVP....CTV-2

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DISASTER? Damn right!!! All of us in "the 716" are gonna be "royally boned" by the time the mess is over and the dust has settled! Buffalo may turn into one of the worst places in the country to try to get OTA TV. Looks like we'll have either a local or a Toronto signal on almost every channel, and the problem will only get worse as the repack progresses.

Something like 25 to 30 transmitters from here to T.O., mostly at UHF, will altogether be spewing out a combined total effective power of more than 20 MegaWatts of RF, all scrunched into less than 140 MHz of spectrum on a band that sits adjacent to a GAZILLION land-mobile devices and repeaters which are already starting to come online at RF channel 38 and above. For anyone with a mast-mounted pre-amp there will be a problem, because most all of them will still work all the way up to the frequencies at what used to be RF 69. The whole spectrum auction thing was one of the STUPIDEST moves the FCC has ever made--and they have an incredible history of making stupid moves. Remember AM Stereo?

And WHO got all money from the spectrum auction? WE sure as hell didn't, and the airwaves are supposed to belong to US! Most shameless rip-off in history, and the mess it will create is only just starting. As the CATV engineers might put it: because of this frequency squash Buffalo will be "RITOIE city." (RITOIE = "Receiver-Induced Third-Order Intermodulation Effect")

And there's more: when Global Toronto RF 41 moves down to RF 17, I've heard that WBXZ has to vacate the channel since they get no protection as an "-LD" station. They will likely have to move down to one of the few remaining VHF channels, and if you think they're hard to get now, just wait for that!

Anyone wanna buy WNYO's old tower out in Wyoming County? I hear it's a great site for birdwatchers, if you're into the whole dead bird thing.

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Then add all the lazy Americans, especially the 'post teenagers' who are under the delusion that their toy phone can do anything.

I wonder how WIVB will handle the complaints from the 'Southern Tier' when they discover they lost CBS? AFAIK, the Canadians didn't have that much of a problem receiving the three from the Boston Hills in the 1st place.
The other thing that is stupid, WIVB's 'plant' is not that old in Colden. I'm sure that tower will go to good use.

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Recording free OTA TV for 'time shifting' has been here since 1975. Will there be DVR's to do the same when ATSC3 obsoletes existing DVR's??
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when Global Toronto RF 41 moves down to RF 17, I've heard that WBXZ has to vacate the channel since they get no protection as an "-LD" station. They will likely have to move down to one of the few remaining VHF channels, and if you think they're hard to get now, just wait for that!
WBXZ P17, V39 isn't even on that list. Being low power, why would they have to move?
Look at that duplicated holy roller waste of spectrum on Gilligan's Island, what 10 miles away from CHCH in Hamilton both on ch 15? What the FCC & CRTC asleep at the switch??

https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/television/

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Do you guys think WIVB will stay 1080i on RF 32 and WNLO move down to 720p?


Are any stations running two 1080i channels on the same RF?
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Probably both in 1080i. There are plenty of dual 1080i stations, including many NBC O&O stations.

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