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I'm in Apex and get good signal for both Raleigh and Greensboro channels. However, about a week ago I lost signal for WCWG (20.1 and 20.2) after years of receiving it just fine. I tried multiple TVs and rescans with no luck. The signal meter on my ChannelMaster DVR+ shows 0 signal for UHF channel 19, which is what tvfool shows as the real channel for 20.1.

Did anyone else have an issue with WCWG? Does anyone know if WCWG changed somehow?
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WCWG is now channel sharing on WXII's signal and has turned off channel 19. If you do not receive WXII on 12-1, you will no longer receive WCWG.

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Does anyone in this forum have ATT fiber with uverse TV? I am thinking about switching to it. I have a bunch of questions about it.
  • Do you get advertised speeds?
  • How is the picture quality?
  • How does the modem/gateway inside the house connect to the box mounted on the outside of the house?
  • How does the main DVR connect to the modem/gateway? (ethernet, co-ax, other?)
  • How do the wired TV boxes connect to the main DVR? (ethernet, co-ax, other?)

thanks in advance.
I am going to respond to my own questions here since I took the plunge and signed up for ATT Fiber/Uverse in case anyone else had similar questions. I have had ATT for 3 weeks now. Before that I was using DirecTV for 16 years, and a cable modem for internet (Earthlink service that was just a reseller of Time Warner Cable).

I signed up for 300 Mbit service. I routinely get 360 up and down. I have had 0 issues with data service. Pretty awesome actually. I was expecting a few bumps. But, no problems so far.

Picture Quality is good, but not great. Comparing to DirecTV side by side (I had both for a couple of weeks) they are similar, DirecTV is better sometimes, Uverse is better others. On the whole, I think DirecTV is better more often. Uverse appears to be sharper while the DirecTV picture is soft. Perhaps DirecTV is encoding at a lower resolution or with softer filters to mask some of the artifacts. On fast transitions Uverse seems to have more macroblock artifacts than DirecTV. But when there isn't a fast transition, the Uverse picture is definitely more detailed. This is a general observation, but it is also channel dependent. e.g. DirecTV seems to do locals better than Uverse. Uverse seems to do better with HBO/Showtime and NBCSN (Formula One). They seem very close on NFLN.

The UI is good. There are things I really like about it compared to DirecTV, but there are also some things I miss from DirectTV. The UI is fast compared to DirecTV. Changing channels with Uverse is fast. DirecTV channel changes are super slow ... so slow that channel surfing is basically not possible. Channel surfing with Uverse is definitely possible. DirecTV has a "jump to tick" capability that allows jumping 15min or 30min (depending on the show length) forward/back in a program. Uverse doesn't have that functionality. Uverse also doesn't have slow motion or frame advance. That really sucks for replaying sports. DirecTV has a better search for programming function. Uverse has a 30 second "slip" function similar to DirecTV. It plays a few frames of the program as it fast forwards 30 seconds. But DirecTV has a 30-second "skip" option that can be enabled via secret keyword searches. I like the DirecTV "skip" much better because it doesn't fast forward and show frames as it goes, but instead instantaneously jumps 30 seconds. The "skip" is much quicker jumping over commercials than the "slip". I find it easier to manage recordings (finding things in the playlist, scheduling, etc.) with DirecTV. I am sure I will get used to the Uverse way of organizing things, but for now, I find it a little cumbersome. But in general, the UI on Uverse is much more responsive than DirecTV.

I can record 6 HD streams at once (which is cool). Though the interface slows down when recording that many things. The harddrive in the DVR is pretty large. It says I can record 350+ hours HD (can't remember the exact number).

As far as how everything is connected ...
  • NIB : Fiber comes from the street to a network interface box AT&T installed on the side of my house.
  • ONT : From the outside box, fiber runs to the ONT (I think this stands for optical network terminal). The ONT is a small box mounted somewhere inside the house and requires a power connection. The ONT converts the fiber into ethernet.
  • Gateway : The ethernet output of the ONT goes directly to the Gateway. They gave me a Pace 5268AC gateway (but I think there are others that can get installed). It is a little bit smaller than a 8.5x11 sheet of paper and about 1 inch thick. The gateway has 4 ethernet port outputs, does 5GHz and 2.4GHz wifi, phone output (if you get phone service, which I don't), and a coax cable output.
  • DVR : The DVR connects to the Gateway via ethernet. They gave me a Pace IPH8010 DVR. It is a tiny thing. Amazingly small. Its about the size of an 8" tablet, but about 1" thick.
  • Wired TV set top box: The set top boxes are pretty large. Much larger than the DVR (which makes no sense except they are older). I got Motorola VIP 1200 set top boxes. The set top box connects to the Gateway via ethernet (or Coax, but more on that later).
  • Wireless TV set top box: To get wireless, ATT connects a WAP (wireless access point) to the Gateway via ethernet. Then a set top box connects wireless to the WAP. I have an Arris VAP2500 wireless access point, and a Cisco ISB7005 wireless set top box.

I initially signed up for 4 wired TV's. When the installer got here, he told me that they like to do only wired ethernet or wireless. They don't want to use existing phone lines or coax cable for distribution as they have had problems with those. He also said that once the installation was done and provisioned, the boxes were locked into whatever distribution mode they started with (wired/wireless/coax). This turned out not to be exactly true (more on that later).

For the first remote TV, he used an ethernet cable that I had run many years ago to distribute video via an HDMI extender.

For the second remote TV, he decided to use a wireless box (at no cost to me) because it would be difficult to run ethernet to that location. I was a bit wary of using wireless for TV, but so far it has been great with no issues. It appears to be using a 5GHz signal based on the wifi scanner app on my phone. I do not live in a densely populated area (single family homes on 1+ acre lots). I don't know how well wireless TV would work with more wireless interference.

For the third remote TV, a new ethernet run was required. The installer didn't want to pull ethernet cable through the attic and fish it down the wall (and said they weren't equipped or allowed to do that). I don't think that is true, but I didn't want to argue with him. He offered to swap that box to wireless also, but I didn't want another wireless box as I was skeptical of how well they would do. So I had him install the last TV box in the same location as the DVR, and planned on running the ethernet later myself. He did give me a bunch of ethernet cable to do the install later.

Given that the wireless box is different than the wired box, the installer was probably correct that switching connection modes would not work. The wireless box has an ethernet port, but I haven't tried it to see if it works.
The wireless box also has an ethernet port that allows it to be used wired. I had to unplug the WAP and power cycle the wireless box to make it look for a connection on the wired ethernet port. But once I did that, the box booted up and worked great over wired ethernet. To get it back into wireless mode, I had to power on the WAP, unplug the ethernet cord from the wireless box, and power cycle the wireless box. When I did this, the wireless box went into wireless pairing mode. I then followed the instructions to press the WPS button on the WAP and hit enter on the wireless box. Back to wireless. The wireless box does not have a coax in, so HPNA isn't an option. Wired ethernet or wireless only.

However, while poking around in the Gateway's UI, I noticed there was a toggle for turning on HPNA. I made sure it was on, then I connected one of the wired boxes to the Gateway using coax instead of ethernet. It worked perfectly. My house was built with homerun coax for each room that all converges in 1 location. So instead of running ethernet to the third location, I used the house coax by connecting the Gateway to the coax at the wall. At the convergence location, I connected the house coax that goes to the DVR location to the coax that goes to the third TV location using a coax joiner. I connected the wired set top box to the wall with coax. Everything works great. Yay! No wall fishing ethernet cables required. So converting between wired ethernet and HPNA over wired coax works fine (so the installer wasn't right on this one). HPNA is specified to work over wired phone connections (RJ11) as well as coax. There is an option in the Gateway UI to use RJ11 instead of coax. However, I have not tested that, and have no idea if that works or not, and if it requires that you also have phone service through AT&T.

The gateway has a good UI, and the wifi radios seemed to be pretty good. I had good coverage throughout my 2800 sqft house. However, it didn't have all the functionality of my Nighthawk R7000. And I really wanted my network to be behind a firewall that I control, not one controlled by AT&T that may or may not be updated with security patches. So I investigated how to put the gateway in bypass/bridge mode so my R7000 would be directly on the internet like my previous setup with my cable modem. But before I went through all that, I connected the R7000 WAN port directly to the gateway via an ethernet cable. The R7000 detected that the Gateway was using 192.168.1.xxx domain, and asked if I wanted to switch the R7000 to use 10.0.0.xxx domain, which I did. Everything works great. I didn't have to put the gateway in bypass/bridge mode. I didn't have to change anything on my R7000. The R7000 gets a 192.168.1.xxx "external" IP address from the gateway. My home network is isolated from AT&T. All my devices are on the 10.0.0.xxx domain. I didn't have to change anything on my devices ... they see the same network they always did, but now they get served a 10.0.0.xxx IP address instead of 192.168.1.xxx address. The TV boxes remain connected to the Gateway ... i.e. they are not on my network, but instead on the gateways network on the other side of the R7000 firewall. I turned off the wifi radios in the gateway. So now, AT&T can get to all their boxes through their gateway, but all my stuff is behind my R7000 firewall (hopefully isolated from them and the rest of the world).
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I am going to respond to my own questions here since I took the plunge and signed up for ATT Fiber/Uverse in case anyone else had similar questions. I have had ATT for 3 weeks now. Before that I was using DirecTV for 16 years, and a cable modem for internet (Earthlink service that was just a reseller of Time Warner Cable).

I signed up for 300 Mbit service. I routinely get 360 up and down. I have had 0 issues with data service. Pretty awesome actually. I was expecting a few bumps. But, no problems so far.

Picture Quality is good, but not great. Comparing to DirecTV side by side (I had both for a couple of weeks) they are similar, DirecTV is better sometimes, Uverse is better others. On the whole, I think DirecTV is better more often. Uverse appears to be sharper while the DirecTV picture is soft. Perhaps DirecTV is encoding at a lower resolution or with softer filters to mask some of the artifacts. On fast transitions Uverse seems to have more macroblock artifacts than DirecTV. But when there isn't a fast transition, the Uverse picture is definitely more detailed. This is a general observation, but it is also channel dependent. e.g. DirecTV seems to do locals better than Uverse. Uverse seems to do better with HBO/Showtime and NBCSN (Formula One). They seem very close on NFLN.

The UI is good. There are things I really like about it compared to DirecTV, but there are also some things I miss from DirectTV. The UI is fast compared to DirecTV. Changing channels with Uverse is fast. DirecTV channel changes are super slow ... so slow that channel surfing is basically not possible. Channel surfing with Uverse is definitely possible. DirecTV has a "jump to tick" capability that allows jumping 15min or 30min (depending on the show length) forward/back in a program. Uverse doesn't have that functionality. Uverse also doesn't have slow motion or frame advance. That really sucks for replaying sports. DirecTV has a better search for programming function. Uverse has a 30 second "slip" function similar to DirecTV. It plays a few frames of the program as it fast forwards 30 seconds. But DirecTV has a 30-second "skip" option that can be enabled via secret keyword searches. I like the DirecTV "skip" much better because it doesn't fast forward and show frames as it goes, but instead instantaneously jumps 30 seconds. The "skip" is much quicker jumping over commercials than the "slip". I find it easier to manage recordings (finding things in the playlist, scheduling, etc.) with DirecTV. I am sure I will get used to the Uverse way of organizing things, but for now, I find it a little cumbersome. But in general, the UI on Uverse is much more responsive than DirecTV.

I can record 6 HD streams at once (which is cool). Though the interface slows down when recording that many things. The harddrive in the DVR is pretty large. It says I can record 350+ hours HD (can't remember the exact number).

As far as how everything is connected ...
  • NIB : Fiber comes from the street to a network interface box AT&T installed on the side of my house.
  • ONT : From the outside box, fiber runs to the ONT (I think this stands for optical network terminal). The ONT is a small box mounted somewhere inside the house and requires a power connection. The ONT converts the fiber into ethernet.
  • Gateway : The ethernet output of the ONT goes directly to the Gateway. They gave me a Pace 5268AC gateway (but I think there are others that can get installed). It is a little bit smaller than a 8.5x11 sheet of paper and about 1 inch thick. The gateway has 4 ethernet port outputs, does 5GHz and 2.4GHz wifi, phone output (if you get phone service, which I don't), and a coax cable output.
  • DVR : The DVR connects to the Gateway via ethernet. They gave me a Pace IPH8010 DVR. It is a tiny thing. Amazingly small. Its about the size of an 8" tablet, but about 1" thick.
  • Wired TV set top box: The set top boxes are pretty large. Much larger than the DVR (which makes no sense except they are older). I got Motorola VIP 1200 set top boxes. The set top box connects to the Gateway via ethernet (or Coax, but more on that later).
  • Wireless TV set top box: To get wireless, ATT connects a WAP (wireless access point) to the Gateway via ethernet. Then a set top box connects wireless to the WAP. I have an Arris VAP2500 wireless access point, and a Cisco ISB7005 wireless set top box.

I initially signed up for 4 wired TV's. When the installer got here, he told me that they like to do only wired ethernet or wireless. They don't want to use existing phone lines or coax cable for distribution as they have had problems with those. He also said that once the installation was done and provisioned, the boxes were locked into whatever distribution mode they started with (wired/wireless/coax). This turned out not to be exactly true (more on that later).

For the first remote TV, he used an ethernet cable that I had run many years ago to distribute video via an HDMI extender.

For the second remote TV, he decided to use a wireless box (at no cost to me) because it would be difficult to run ethernet to that location. I was a bit wary of using wireless for TV, but so far it has been great with no issues. It appears to be using a 5GHz signal based on the wifi scanner app on my phone. I do not live in a densely populated area (single family homes on 1+ acre lots). I don't know how well wireless TV would work with more wireless interference.

For the third remote TV, a new ethernet run was required. The installer didn't want to pull ethernet cable through the attic and fish it down the wall (and said they weren't equipped or allowed to do that). I don't think that is true, but I didn't want to argue with him. He offered to swap that box to wireless also, but I didn't want another wireless box as I was skeptical of how well they would do. So I had him install the last TV box in the same location as the DVR, and planned on running the ethernet later myself. He did give me a bunch of ethernet cable to do the install later.

Given that the wireless box is different than the wired box, the installer was probably correct that switching connection modes would not work. The wireless box has an ethernet port, but I haven't tried it to see if it works.

However, while poking around in the Gateway's UI, I noticed there was a toggle for turning on HPNA. I made sure it was on, then I connected one of the wired boxes to the Gateway using coax instead of ethernet. It worked perfectly. My house was built with homerun coax for each room that all converges in 1 location. So instead of running ethernet to the third location, I used the house coax by connecting the Gateway to the coax at the wall. At the convergence location, I connected the house coax that goes to the DVR location to the coax that goes to the third TV location using a coax joiner. I connected the wired set top box to the wall with coax. Everything works great. Yay! No wall fishing ethernet cables required. So converting between wired ethernet and HPNA over wired coax works fine (so the installer wasn't right on this one). HPNA is specified to work over wired phone connections (RJ11) as well as coax. There is an option in the Gateway UI to use RJ11 instead of coax. However, I have not tested that, and have no idea if that works or not, and if it requires that you also have phone service through AT&T.

The gateway has a good UI, and the wifi radios seemed to be pretty good. I had good coverage throughout my 2800 sqft house. However, it didn't have all the functionality of my Nighthawk R7000. And I really wanted my network to be behind a firewall that I control, not one controlled by AT&T that may or may not be updated with security patches. So I investigated how to put the gateway in bypass/bridge mode so my R7000 would be directly on the internet like my previous setup with my cable modem. But before I went through all that, I connected the R7000 WAN port directly to the gateway via an ethernet cable. The R7000 detected that the Gateway was using 192.168.1.xxx domain, and asked if I wanted to switch the R7000 to use 10.0.0.xxx domain, which I did. Everything works great. I didn't have to put the gateway in bypass/bridge mode. I didn't have to change anything on my R7000. The R7000 gets a 192.168.1.xxx "external" IP address from the gateway. My home network is isolated from AT&T. All my devices are on the 10.0.0.xxx domain. I didn't have to change anything on my devices ... they see the same network they always did, but now they get served a 10.0.0.xxx IP address instead of 192.168.1.xxx address. The TV boxes remain connected to the Gateway ... i.e. they are not on my network, but instead on the gateways network on the other side of the R7000 firewall. I turned off the wifi radios in the gateway. So now, AT&T can get to all their boxes through their gateway, but all my stuff is behind my R7000 firewall (hopefully isolated from them and the rest of the world).
Great! You did a bit more experimenting than I did, but that is useful information for possible future mods to my setup.

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update on Uverse:

I was able to get the wireless box to work over wired ethernet. I updated my original post to list the procedure I used. Unfortunately the wireless box does not have a coax input, so HPNA over coax isn't an option. But wired ethernet does work if you decide to go wired later.

After more time watching programming, I am convinced that DirecTV PQ is better overall. Especially with sports. Uverse doesn't like fast camera pans ... it starts macro blocking badly. I think the premium movie channels and other "cable" channels like A&E/FX/TCM/etc. are better on Uverse because there aren't a lot of fast pans, and there are more slow moving camera shots on characters. I think Uverse is encoded at a higher resolution than DirecTV giving more detail, but it appears to be bit-starved whenever there are fast transitions. Uverse has a distinct sharpening effect whenever a fast camera pan stops. Initially the picture is soft and muddy, but then the image will come into sharp focus with high detail. I didn't really notice that with DirecTV over the many years that I had it, i think because DirecTV didn't ever get super sharp.

I still like the snappiness of the Uverse UI compared to DirecTV. Uverse occasionally seems a little slow to respond to commands (especially the remote boxes). But the minor slowness is nowhere near as bad as the DirecTV UI which is slow all the time, and often EXTREMELY slow. I still think DirecTV has a better and more refined interface for setting up/viewing/modifying recordings.
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Is it just me, or does it seem that Capital Broadcasting gets into carriage disputes with distributors a lot more often than other OTA broadcasters in our area? I know they were in a dispute with DirecTV last year, and now with Uverse. I don't recall WNCN ever being in a dispute. I remember WTVD (ABC) having a dispute with someone many years ago (maybe 5 or 6?). But it seems like Capital is in one like every year or 2. Maybe it isn't the distributors trying to get WRAL/WRAZ on the cheap as much as WRAL/WRAZ asking too much? total speculation on my part. I could be completely forgetting other disputes. Just wondering what others felt/remember?
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They all are getting into disputes. Raycom is in a dispute right now with Directv. Nexstar which owns WNCN was just in a dispute, and Sinclair which owns 22 and 28 had a dispute. This is why your cable rates are going up fast as well. People get irate when they can't watch their shows and those crawls start causing panic saying the channel is going to be pulled. Many do not know anything about OTA tv since broadcasters do not explain it since they make money off of you buying service from the provider. Many prices for bundles are nearing $200 a month now, and that isn't even including the fast speeds for internet, or any premium networks.
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I have to say that I am surprised that the AT&T/Capitol Broadcasting dispute is still going after ~2 weeks. In the past these things seem to get resolved in a couple of days. I thought for sure that it would get resolved before premier week. I guess there is a big jump in what Capitol is asking for (or AT&T wants to make a large cut in what they are paying).

On the plus side, it has spurred me into dropping some series that I used to watch on NBC/Fox that I was on the fence about, kept me from picking up any new series on NBC/Fox, and caused me to switch to WTVD for local and national news (doubt I will switch back unless WTVD gets in a dispute). Probably not what Capitol was aiming for, but it is good for me and my available time for other things. Probably a good indicator I should drop TV altogether The only thing I really miss is NFL football, but I often watch that at a bar anyway.
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I have to say that I am surprised that the AT&T/Capitol Broadcasting dispute is still going after ~2 weeks. In the past these things seem to get resolved in a couple of days. I thought for sure that it would get resolved before premier week. I guess there is a big jump in what Capitol is asking for (or AT&T wants to make a large cut in what they are paying).

On the plus side, it has spurred me into dropping some series that I used to watch on NBC/Fox that I was on the fence about, kept me from picking up any new series on NBC/Fox, and caused me to switch to WTVD for local and national news (doubt I will switch back unless WTVD gets in a dispute). Probably not what Capitol was aiming for, but it is good for me and my available time for other things. Probably a good indicator I should drop TV altogether The only thing I really miss is NFL football, but I often watch that at a bar anyway.
Yeah, hard to tell who is really holding up the negotiations without knowing the terms of the old agreement and what Capitol Broadcasting is asking now. I found that the FOX Now app will let me stream episodes once I activate it with my AT&T login credentials. It won't stream them live, but will stream them the next day.

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It's a bummer that WNCN apparently decided to drop Antenna TV in favor of carrying Justice Network on 17.2. I hope that some other station in the market will pick up Antenna TV, especially since it is adding several new shows to its lineup in December or January.

It's kind of strange that Justice Network is now on two stations in this market (WUVC and WNCN).
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It's a bummer that WNCN apparently decided to drop Antenna TV in favor of carrying Justice Network on 17.2. I hope that some other station in the market will pick up Antenna TV, especially since it is adding several new shows to its lineup in December or January.

It's kind of strange that Justice Network is now on two stations in this market (WUVC and WNCN).
Dropping AntennaTV sure wasn't our choice locally. It has great programming and I'm sure another station will air it soon. We have been running Justice on 17-3, which slid to 17-2, (Spectrum ch 1245) for a couple years and added Grit on 17-3 (Spectrum ch 1246) and Escape on 17-4 (not on Spectrum) yesterday afternoon.

PSIP program guides are correct on air, but will be wrong for a week or so on cable and TiVo until the new data is ingested.
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I've started picking up some interference on channel 5.1 (RF 48). Started about the time that the cell phone tower a couple of blocks away from my house turned on it's LTE upgrade a few months ago. I'm only about 13 miles from the Garner antenna farm, and I've been getting a solid signal from all the stations using the Garner farm since the digital transition in 2009. The only thing that's changed that I'm aware of is the LTE lightup of that cell phone tower.

Yet... it bugs me that this is the only channel that's giving me macro-blocking artifacts. Specifically, 50.1 (RF 49) is not. I would have thought that LTE would interfere with all the channels at the upper limit of broadcast these days, but that's not what I'm experiencing.

What do y'all experts think?
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I've started picking up some interference on channel 5.1 (RF 48). Started about the time that the cell phone tower a couple of blocks away from my house turned on it's LTE upgrade a few months ago. I'm only about 13 miles from the Garner antenna farm, and I've been getting a solid signal from all the stations using the Garner farm since the digital transition in 2009. The only thing that's changed that I'm aware of is the LTE lightup of that cell phone tower.

Yet... it bugs me that this is the only channel that's giving me macro-blocking artifacts. Specifically, 50.1 (RF 49) is not. I would have thought that LTE would interfere with all the channels at the upper limit of broadcast these days, but that's not what I'm experiencing.

What do y'all experts think?
I've had problems with 5.1 and 50.1 since May, rock-solid for a over a year before then. Windy/rainy days are the worst. 17.1 comes in great.
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I've had problems with 5.1 and 50.1 since May, rock-solid for a over a year before then. Windy/rainy days are the worst. 17.1 comes in great.


I cut the cord in June and was surprised that those two channels are my worst performers along with 4.1 (which was expected). I added an LTE filter and it helped some but not enough. Now that the leaves are falling they’re almost equal to the others.
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Dropping AntennaTV sure wasn't our choice locally. It has great programming and I'm sure another station will air it soon.
WRAL just recently started airing Cozi, another retro diginet, so I doubt they'd be interested in also carrying Antenna TV. And Capitol Broadcasting also airs Me-TV (on WRAZ). Maybe WTVD would have some interest in Antenna TV, since Antenna's shows are older than the comedies that Laff carries and since the LiveWell diginet is no longer producing new shows.

Antenna is owned by Tribune, so if the Sinclair-Tribune merger gets approved, Antenna might wind up on WLFL or WRDC. But who knows whether Sinclair would allow Antenna to maintain its niche or would try to mess it up by adding news coverage? I sure would not want to watch any news on a Sinclair station.

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I cut the cord in June and was surprised that those two channels are my worst performers along with 4.1 (which was expected). I added an LTE filter and it helped some but not enough. Now that the leaves are falling they’re almost equal to the others.
I cut the cord several years ago and at that time WRAL and WRAZ had the strongest, most reliable signal. It didn't matter if leaves were on the trees or not.
Starting early May this year their signal quality took a noise dive. The trees were full of leaves weeks before the signal dropped.
I've checked my antenna connections and found no problems. Friends in the neighborhood are reporting the same issues, so I'm sure it's not my equipment.

I have a suspicion that Capital Broadcasting is changing their transmitter/antenna setup related to their ATSC 3.0 broadcast on physical channel 39 and/or their upcoming move to physical channel 17.
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I've started picking up some interference on channel 5.1 (RF 48). Started about the time that the cell phone tower a couple of blocks away from my house turned on it's LTE upgrade a few months ago. I'm only about 13 miles from the Garner antenna farm, and I've been getting a solid signal from all the stations using the Garner farm since the digital transition in 2009. The only thing that's changed that I'm aware of is the LTE lightup of that cell phone tower.

Yet... it bugs me that this is the only channel that's giving me macro-blocking artifacts. Specifically, 50.1 (RF 49) is not. I would have thought that LTE would interfere with all the channels at the upper limit of broadcast these days, but that's not what I'm experiencing.

What do y'all experts think?
Have you tried an LTE filter? I got a Channel Master one from Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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It's a bummer that WNCN apparently decided to drop Antenna TV in favor of carrying Justice Network on 17.2. I hope that some other station in the market will pick up Antenna TV, especially since it is adding several new shows to its lineup in December or January.

It's kind of strange that Justice Network is now on two stations in this market (WUVC and WNCN).
If you have a good enough antenna, WGHP in Greensboro (Fox - channel 8) carries Antenna TV as subchannel 8.2. I'm in Morrisville, and it came in clear enough to watch the World Series on, or pick up Carson when they were making pitching changes.


Also, WNCN Engineer, any idea when Nexstar and CBS will get DirecTV Now hooked up with WNCN?
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Have you tried an LTE filter? I got a Channel Master one from Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
That filter is only temporary for now, as the cellular signals are expanding with the FCC repack. To block the future LTE signals you should order the Channel Plus LPF-600 filter from Amazon or other sources. It blocks the current and future LTE bands, I believe down to RF36.
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That filter is only temporary for now, as the cellular signals are expanding with the FCC repack. To block the future LTE signals you should order the Channel Plus LPF-600 filter from Amazon or other sources. It blocks the current and future LTE bands, I believe down to RF36.
WRAL broadcasts on physical channel 48, WRAZ on physical channel 49. A filter that cuts off everything above 36 would eliminate them both. Better wait until the repacking is completed.
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WRAL broadcasts on physical channel 48, WRAZ on physical channel 49. A filter that cuts off everything above 36 would eliminate them both. Better wait until the repacking is completed.
What is the schedule for the great repacking? Not that it'll actually be met, but when is it supposed to end?

And is there a schedule for the conversion to ATSC 3.0? Is there a planned overlap period?
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What is the schedule for the great repacking? Not that it'll actually be met, but when is it supposed to end?

And is there a schedule for the conversion to ATSC 3.0? Is there a planned overlap period?
I found this:
http://data.fcc.gov/download/incenti...Closing_PN.csv

The transition phases are shown here:
https://www.fcc.gov/about-fcc/fcc-in...ition-schedule

The last phase should complete July 3, 2020.
WRAL is supposed to complete their move to physical channel 17 by September 6, 2019. WRAZ moves to physical channel 15 by that date, too, both in phase 5 of the transition.
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Here is an article about using an LTE filters he might find interesting.

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WRAL broadcasts on physical channel 48, WRAZ on physical channel 49. A filter that cuts off everything above 36 would eliminate them both. Better wait until the repacking is completed.
That's why I said future use. And I would guess Channel Master will modify their filter for the new LTE band.
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Have you tried an LTE filter? I got a Channel Master one from Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
I've just installed the Channel Master 700 MHz LTE filter https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01JGSC5AO
WRAZ seems a bit better, the jury is still out on WRAL. I still had drop-outs last night on WRAL, but not as many as on Wednesday. It wasn't as windy last night though.
I'm about 30 miles from the antenna farm, 130 degrees. I'm using an attic-mounted CM-4228HD antenna.
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I wonder how the ratings for a run-of-the-mill ACC basketball game compare to the ratings for "This Is Us". I guess there is an addiction to ACC hoops around here. Well, at least WRAL is showing the drama at 11 p.m. rather than not showing the episode at all.

http://www.wral.com/-this-is-us-to-a...game/17242124/
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I wonder how the ratings for a run-of-the-mill ACC basketball game compare to the ratings for "This Is Us". I guess there is an addiction to ACC hoops around here.
You guess? Really? What, did you just move here? Without doing any research at all? Well, the culture you moved to is Bball (not football, (not) sorry), idiotic politics, and pork BBQ (before you speak, Eastern or Western can get you into a fistfight, so be careful what you say). WRAL has been working with Raycom for as long as I can remember, maybe 50 years? Anyone else remember the "sail with the Pilot" commercials from back in the 1960/70s (when Pilot Life Ins. was the main sponsor)? I'm just sayin' that you didn't discover anything new.

I watched the first half of the game; it wasn't very interesting. But I've never seen an ep. of "This is Us". For whatever that's worth, which surely isn't much. I wish they'd show more bball, not less. But Disney/ESPN was throwing money around like there was no tomorrow and bought up tons of broadcast rights, and OTA ain't really their idea of a revenue stream. Not that ESPN is going to have that many tomorrows, looks like. But that's capitalism for ya.

So sit back with a plate of good Q, watch the games (or at least the fans) so you can laugh at them (the fans, not the games) properly by knowing what's riling people up, and enjoy the spectacle. And the ACC Tournament is nothing if not spectacle. Just sayin'.

BTW, if you look around you and half the the people are gone from their desks, usually the second Friday in March, you'll likely find them at the nearest sports bar having a "long lunch". Often with their bosses. So yes, bball here has many of the hallmarks of a religion -- even holy days.

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But I've never seen an ep. of "This is Us". For whatever that's worth, which surely isn't much.

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I wonder how the ratings for a run-of-the-mill ACC basketball game compare to the ratings for "This Is Us". I guess there is an addiction to ACC hoops around here. Well, at least WRAL is showing the drama at 11 p.m. rather than not showing the episode at all.

http://www.wral.com/-this-is-us-to-a...game/17242124/
ACC basketball has always been a mainstay on WRAL and WBTV since originally broadcast by Jefferson-Pilot and Raycom. However in Charlotte Raycom flagship station WBTV will sometimes allow WJZY FOX-46 or WMYT-55 to carry the game depending upon programming. Sometimes they won't preempt CBS if it is not a major game or if CBS has a strong show that night.
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You guess? Really? What, did you just move here? Without doing any research at all? Well, the culture you moved to is Bball .
My comment was made with full knowledge and with tongue firmly in cheek. Still, it was the Heels versus Boston College, and BC is hardly old-time ACC, so maybe only die-hard Heels fans were watching toward the end.

I'm sure the ratings for the basketball game were fine. I applaud WRAL for setting up the 11 p.m. airing for "This Is Us".
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