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I looked into it a little deeper and it's impossible. See the Terrain Plot I attached. Ignore the red line. The blue line is taking into account the height of Sutro tower and 50' off the ground at your end. Sutro is 86 miles at a heading of exactly 340 degrees. It's at least a 3 edge path if not 4 or 5 edges. The real killer is that you have a 732' hill 1 mile down the path which is the final nail in the coffin.

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Hi folks. Is anyone having any trouble with the KSBW ABC channel, 8.2? Its as if the screen freezes for a second during programming, before catching up. The sound is fine, but it's almost unwatchable with the choppiness of the screen freezes. I had Comcast Basic cable while living in Santa Cruz, and it was doing it there. I moved to Watsonville two months ago and I'm using an OTA HD antenna, and the problem presists. I contacted KSBW, but they claim there is no issue on their end. Is it my TV?
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Guess I need to look at this forum more often. smile.gif Is this issue still going on? I don't look at 8.2 that often. I just put it on and it looks fine. I'd be really surprised if it was a KSBW problem because they'd be getting a ton of complaints. It might be your TV although I can't imagine why it would only be 8.2. Do you have another TV you can try?

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Hi, I just moved to Pacific Grove, and bought a Mohu Plus Amplified Leaf indoor antenna. Currently the antenna is on the ceiling in the bathroom (not the most eye appealing place). An outdoor antenna is out of the question because I am in an apartment. I am able to receive the most stations here (8.1/8.2, 35.1, and very spotty, but 25.1/25.2/25.3, along with 31.1/31.2/31.3 showing up but with no picture). I have tried almost everywhere in this apartment with no luck on gaining anymore stations.

I have always had cable before joining the army, but this is definitely a cheaper alternative. I have a few questions since I am new to OTA reception:
Is there a better indoor antenna out there for me other than the Amplified Leaf?
Is there a certain direction or way of hanging the antenna that I should be doing?
Would a DTV converter box be able to find more stations than my digital ready tv, thus allowing me to fine tune the antenna when I finally get sound/picture? (currently the tv stops at a few places and scans for a minute before jumping percentage wise).

I have tried tvfool. Without antenna height for my address, it tells me I can get a few more channels. However when I put in how high my antenna will be (I downloaded an app on my iPhone...312 ft above sea level), it says I can receive even more stations, including CBS. Also I've wasted almost an entire box of tin foil hoping that would work.

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Hi, I just moved to Pacific Grove, and bought a Mohu Plus Amplified Leaf indoor antenna. Currently the antenna is on the ceiling in the bathroom (not the most eye appealing place). An outdoor antenna is out of the question because I am in an apartment. I am able to receive the most stations here (8.1/8.2, 35.1, and very spotty, but 25.1/25.2/25.3, along with 31.1/31.2/31.3 showing up but with no picture). I have tried almost everywhere in this apartment with no luck on gaining anymore stations.

Sounds like you're not receiving any stations from Mt. Toro; 46, 39, 22, etc.
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I have always had cable before joining the army, but this is definitely a cheaper alternative. I have a few questions since I am new to OTA reception:
Is there a better indoor antenna out there for me other than the Amplified Leaf?

Lots of people like the Winegard SS3000 but I can't guarantee success with any particular antenna.
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Is there a certain direction or way of hanging the antenna that I should be doing?

No, it's hit and miss. An indoor antenna may require a different position for every station.
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Would a DTV converter box be able to find more stations than my digital ready tv, thus allowing me to fine tune the antenna when I finally get sound/picture? (currently the tv stops at a few places and scans for a minute before jumping percentage wise).

If anything the TV tuner is likely to be better than a converter box. The scanning situation you describe happens when the TV finds a signal but is unable to decode it. This most likely means that the signal is strong enough but there is too much multipath. Moving the antenna may improve this for that particular station.
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I have tried tvfool. Without antenna height for my address, it tells me I can get a few more channels. However when I put in how high my antenna will be (I downloaded an app on my iPhone...312 ft above sea level), it says I can receive even more stations, including CBS. Also I've wasted almost an entire box of tin foil hoping that would work.
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The problem is likely multipath issues. TVFool cannot account for this, only signal strength. It would be helpful if you have some way to tune to the problem channel and move the antenna until it can be decoded.

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this is for larry kenney, a regular poster on the sf bay thread, he keeps a comprhensive list of stations on his website

today i noticed theres a new subchannel, 67.4 "zuus" showing a mix of music videos in english and spanish
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KZSC channel 20 is supposedly on the air from Fremont Peak. Can someone confirm this for me and also tell me what programming the station is carrying? I would like to update my DTV Station List.

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KSCZ? A friend of mine drove up to the tower (which was not on Fremont Peak as far as I know) and got a digital signal with no PSIP carrying static.

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KSCZ is in the mountains 5 or so miles east of (other side of coyote valley from loma prieta) my house right above motorcycle park and the golf course, but the foothills block reception so i can only get it if i take my portable set up downtown. last time i checked it was still blank.

ill also check up on the kg46ld or whatever it is on the old ksbw tower, im pretty sure that i picked up azteca on it, and not rf 43.
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May 6, 2014 · Posted By Red Dana · Filed Under KQET

(DT25.1, 25.2, 25.3)

KQET’s Over The Air (OTA) signal will shut down late May 12/early Tues 5/13 shortly after midnight to allow for extensive electrical maintenance work at the transmitter. Engineers will do their best to complete the work by 6am Tuesday morning.

This will affect OTA viewers of the DT25 channels, and signal providers which use DT25.1 as their signal source for KQED/KQET. This will not affect Comcast Cable subscribers.

Most receivers should automatically find our signal again once it’s restored. However, some viewers may need to do a rescan in order to restore their reception.



http://blogs.kqed.org/transmitterstatus/2014/05/06/kqet-planned-overnight-outage-early-tues-513/

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K07ZK-D, Monterey has filed a license to cover construction. The transmitter is licensed at the studios of KOTR-LP 2511 Garden Road, Monterey, CA
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Exhibits
Exhibit 1
Description: BASIS FOR STA REQUEST

THE LICENSEE HAS TAKEN KOTR-LP, ANALOG CHANNEL 2, OFF THE AIR WHILE IT WORKS TO COMPLETE CONSTRUCTION OF THE STATION'S DIGITAL FACILITY ON DIGITAL CHANNEL 11.
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Santa Cruz Reception Questions

KOTR: Anyone know if this channel is up - I didn't see it on my last scan.
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I also wonder if I should attempt to move my external antenna - thought I would ask here.

I am getting most local stations fine with my RCS ANT751 external antenna. However, I am getting a few dropouts, loss of picture and intermittent pixel loss pauses during the day - especially around dusk. This only happens on channels 46.1 and 46.2. The nighttime seems to be more solid with less dropouts. I checked the signal strength on my TV meter and it is nice and steady at 92%.

The other channels like 8.1, 8.2, 25.1, 25.2, & 35.1 all come it at 100% on the TV meter and have no dropouts. I currently have the antenna signal going straight from my roof through my patch panel and to the TV - there are 2 connectors between the Antenna and the TV in this situation.

I would like to add a splitter to run my second TV - however this really kills channels 46.1 and 46.2.

I would like to know if adding something like the RCA TVPRAMP1R Preamplifier would help my situation?

I am at 95060 in Santa Cruz at about 300ft elevation, I have a decent view, though a few trees, of most of the Monterey and Salinas Mountains.
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KOTR: Anyone know if this channel is up - I didn't see it on my last scan.
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I also wonder if I should attempt to move my external antenna - thought I would ask here.

I am getting most local stations fine with my RCS ANT751 external antenna. However, I am getting a few dropouts, loss of picture and intermittent pixel loss pauses during the day - especially around dusk. This only happens on channels 46.1 and 46.2. The nighttime seems to be more solid with less dropouts. I checked the signal strength on my TV meter and it is nice and steady at 92%.

The other channels like 8.1, 8.2, 25.1, 25.2, & 35.1 all come it at 100% on the TV meter and have no dropouts. I currently have the antenna signal going straight from my roof through my patch panel and to the TV - there are 2 connectors between the Antenna and the TV in this situation.

I would like to add a splitter to run my second TV - however this really kills channels 46.1 and 46.2.

I would like to know if adding something like the RCA TVPRAMP1R Preamplifier would help my situation?

I am at 95060 in Santa Cruz at about 300ft elevation, I have a decent view, though a few trees, of most of the Monterey and Salinas Mountains.
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I think the Salinas forum is basically abandoned. This is the first time I've even looked at it for at least a year.

KOTR has been off the air for a long time. Despite what they say I've seen no evidence that they're building their channel 11 transmitter on Loma Prieta.

You are LOS to all the Salinas stations so you shouldn't have dropouts but trees can cause a world of problems, even just a few. The only real solution is not to look through trees. Moving the antenna might help 46. Are all the Mt. Toro stations fine; i.e, RFs 22, 38, 39 and 58?

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I think the Salinas forum is basically abandoned. This is the first time I've even looked at it for at least a year.

KOTR has been off the air for a long time. Despite what they say I've seen no evidence that they're building their channel 11 transmitter on Loma Prieta.

You are LOS to all the Salinas stations so you shouldn't have dropouts but trees can cause a world of problems, even just a few. The only real solution is not to look through trees. Moving the antenna might help 46. Are all the Mt. Toro stations fine; i.e, RFs 22, 38, 39 and 58?

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Thanks - Strange but 46 seems to drop out only in the late afternoon (sports time). I was guessing it is from some tree movement, but it is fine at night, and morning - so there must be some other variable that is giving me dropouts.
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Thanks - Strange but 46 seems to drop out only in the late afternoon (sports time). I was guessing it is from some tree movement, but it is fine at night, and morning - so there must be some other variable that is giving me dropouts.
Dropouts only in the afternoon usually means you're depending on a little ducting/inversion help to receive the station which is most common from the early evening until the morning. Solar heating breaks up the inversions in the morning and they're usually gone in the afternoon.

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KOTR no longer has a CP for use of channel 11. The FCC has canceled the CP. KOTR is operating on channel 7 with a PSIP of 11.
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KOTR no longer has a CP for use of channel 11. The FCC has canceled the CP. KOTR is operating on channel 7 with a PSIP of 11.
KOTR is not broadcasting on channel 7. Only KGO is on channel 7.

As far as I can tell, KOTR is not broadcasting OTA at all. Maybe the FCC should look into this.
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K07ZK is supposed to be on the air transmitting from near Hwy 1 and Hwy 68 with a very small coverage area ending at about Castroville. I have no way to verify this. Is it possible that KOTR is on the air using the K07ZK transmitter?

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Does anyone along Highway 1 from the Monterey airport to Castroville see anything on channel 7? That's the entire coverage area of the station.

I'd like to update my channel lists, so if you can get an ID or any program information it would be appreciated.

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I had a friend verify that K07ZK-D is on the air. It has a directional antenna looking NE from the roof of the KOTR studio at 2511 Garden Circle, Monterey.


It is using a PSIP of channel 11. KOTR-LP will be back on the air shortly. The licensee of K07ZK-D is William J. Jaeger. He is also the licensee of KOTR-LP 2 Santa Cruz.


This is the coverage map for K07ZK-D:
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I had a friend verify that K07ZK-D is on the air. It has a directional antenna looking NE from the roof of the KOTR studio at 2511 Garden Circle, Monterey.

It is using a PSIP of channel 11. KOTR-LP will be back on the air shortly. The licensee of K07ZK-D is William J. Jaeger. He is also the licensee of KOTR-LP 2 Santa Cruz.
I'm confused. In your first sentence, you say it's on the air; in the next sentence, you say it will be on the air shortly.

I live less than 3 miles from the "transmitter" and see no evidence of any signal.
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KOTR no longer has a CP for use of channel 11. The FCC has canceled the CP.
When did that happen? I can't find a cancellation document or note on CDBS.

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KOTR-LP 2 will be back on the air shortly from Mt. Toro.
K07ZK-D is on the air at 2551 address. It has a narrow beam at this time.
I cannot either find a CP for them on channel 11.
There is another 11 digital CP in the area for KMUV-LD.
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KOTR-LP 2 will be back on the air shortly from Mt. Toro.
K07ZK-D is on the air at 2551 address. It has a narrow beam at this time.
I cannot either find a CP for them on channel 11.
There is another 11 digital CP in the area for KMUV-LD.
What does shortly mean? Has it been on the air from Mt. Toro before? Will it ever transmit from Loma Prieta? When will OTA viewers be able to watch this channel?
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KOTR-LP 2 will be back on the air shortly from Mt. Toro.
K07ZK-D is on the air at 2551 address. It has a narrow beam at this time.
I cannot either find a CP for them on channel 11.
There is another 11 digital CP in the area for KMUV-LD.
The KMUV-LD permit was applied for in 2007, expired in 2010, and was superceded by a replacement channel 21 application in 2011.

KOTR's channel 11 permit was filed in 2010 after the KMUV permit expired, modified in 2011, and as best I can tell, has not expired. All analog to digital conversion CPs have had their expiration dates suspended indefinitely pending the incentive auction. As far as I am aware, KOTR's permit for channel 11 remains valid.

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I had a friend verify that K07ZK-D is on the air. It has a directional antenna looking NE from the roof of the KOTR studio at 2511 Garden Circle, Monterey.

It is using a PSIP of channel 11. KOTR-LP will be back on the air shortly. The licensee of K07ZK-D is William J. Jaeger. He is also the licensee of KOTR-LP 2 Santa Cruz.

If K07ZK-D is on the air, what programming are they transmitting?

You think that KOTR-LP (analog 2) will be back on the air? I'll keep an eye on RF 2.

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I had a friend verify that K07ZK-D is on the air. It has a directional antenna looking NE from the roof of the KOTR studio at 2511 Garden Circle, Monterey.

It is using a PSIP of channel 11. KOTR-LP will be back on the air shortly.

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I'm confused. In your first sentence, you say it's on the air; in the next sentence, you say it will be on the air shortly.

I live less than 3 miles from the "transmitter" and see no evidence of any signal.

K07ZK and KOTR are different stations, the former digital and the latter analog. It wouldn't surprise me if neither are on the air and neither about to come on the air.

At 3 miles from the from the transmitter you should be able to see it.

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The KMUV-LD permit was applied for in 2007, expired in 2010, and was superceded by a replacement channel 21 application in 2011.

KOTR's channel 11 permit was filed in 2010 after the KMUV permit expired, modified in 2011, and as best I can tell, has not expired. All analog to digital conversion CPs have had their expiration dates suspended indefinitely pending the incentive auction. As far as I am aware, KOTR's permit for channel 11 remains valid.

- Trip

Both TV Query and a CDBS search show the KOTR channel 11 permit as valid. KMUV HD is being carried as a sub channel on KION. I have no idea if KMUV digital 21 will ever come on the air.

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If K07ZK-D is on the air, what programming are they transmitting?

You think that KOTR-LP (analog 2) will be back on the air? I'll keep an eye on RF 2.

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I was told that K07ZK-D is running PSIP at 11.1 running the same programming as KOTR-LP 2 My Network TV. KOTR is licensed at Mt. Toro.


I would go to the building and see if you see a signal from 2511 Garden. I think that they never had a CP on 11 since none is to be found but 11 was their cable TV channel.

KOTR-LD does have a CP for channel 11.
Application Search Details
File Number: BMPDVL-20110826ABD
Call Sign: KOTR-LD
Facility Id: 167425
FRN: 0013945738
Applicant Name: MIRAGE MEDIA 2, LLC
Frequency:
Channel: 11
Community of License: SANTA CRUZ, CA
Application Type: MINOR MODIFICATION TO A CONSTRUCTION PERMIT
Status: GRANTED
Status Date: 10/12/2011
Expiration Date: 09/01/2015

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