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Yeah i noticed that some channels look like a vertcal band comes across, sort like back in analog days once in awhile you would see ham radio or cb break into tv frequency usually on channel 5.
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I want to know if wliw is reachin jersey population more than it was when it was in plainview LI.
Here you go:

1WTC Reduced Power STA:
https://www.rabbitears.info/contour....5&site=1&map=Y

1WTC CP:
https://www.rabbitears.info/contour....7&site=1&map=Y

Long Island RF 21 contour:
https://www.rabbitears.info/contour....a&site=1&map=Y
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I want to hear from folks here if wliw is reaching them, or same like before
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WLIW NJ coverage

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I want to know if wliw is reachin jersey population more than it was when it was in plainview LI.
WLIW being received in central NJ, Hillsborough Twp 10 miles north of Princeton, moderate strength signal. Never received here before.

If you like PBS, that makes Princeton area a PBS sweet spot. WNET from NYC, WHYY from Philly, WLIW from LI, and NJTV local! Besides national PBS programming, each offers different regional offerings.
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Cool, txs anyohe knows if wpxn ch31 are they moving tomorrow?
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I want to know if wliw is reachin jersey population more than it was when it was in plainview LI.
Yes I would assume so. From my location WLIW used to be around 80% and now they're at 100% just like all the other NYC stations.
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I want to hear from folks here if wliw is reaching them, or same like before


Picking up WLIW here on UWS for the first time, steady strong signal with 100% S/N ,
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so wliw reception problem must be just me, i still cannot receive it im only 5 miles from towers
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Cool, txs anyohe knows if wpxn ch31 are they moving tomorrow?
I can confirm WPXN has already moved today.
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Live in the East 90s in Manhattan.

Everything went fine with my rescan except no reception for WLIW.

Used io receive in almost daily from Plainview - now, nothing!

Even with the station transmitting at a reduced level (56.5kW), really surprised.
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Funny. WXTV comes from ESB, and I think in the first hour after the transition there was some slight pixelation. Weird for me since it is the strongest signals around. At least my mom won't be complaining about her tv when she is back, hahaha...
That is why I can't receive WXTV with an indoor antenna. I can't get any stations off the ESB with an indoor antenna. I can however get WJLP with an indoor. All stations off 1WTC come in fine with an indoor antenna. With the outdoor I can receive all stations off ESB and 1WTC.

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WLIW being received in central NJ, Hillsborough Twp 10 miles north of Princeton, moderate strength signal. Never received here before.
In central NJ (44.3 miles) WLIW comes in at 75 to 77% signal strength. Was never able to receive this channel while it was transmitting on Long Island.
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Live in the East 90s in Manhattan.

Everything went fine with my rescan except no reception for WLIW.
The STA contour I linked to does show some yellow and even a splotch of red in the 90s blocks east of Central Park.

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I can however get WJLP with an indoor.
WJLP is still coming from 4 Times Square until the Durst organization sorts their mess out, however since June they have been operating on a STA with boosted power.
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I just re-scanned another of my TV's and it does receive Channel 5 (FOX), HOWEVER, very intermittently and at low signal strength (about 35% or less). Anybody have any idea why Channel 5 is experiencing signal strength problems on its new broadcast frequency?

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I just re-scanned another of my TV's and it does receive Channel 5 (FOX), HOWEVER, very intermittently and at low signal strength (about 35% or less). Anybody have any idea why Channel 5 is experiencing signal strength problems on its new broadcast frequency?
I've read in FCC filings that all UHF stations broadcasting from 1WTC have
had to attenuate their power while Durst tries to do its job re-tuning the
Combiners.

The WCBS filing mentioned that it hopes to be up to full power by Labor
Day.

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I cannot receive their sistr station my9 i think some television brands are having a difficult time
on rescan i have sony tv set that has cuny on 24.5 the other subs are on 25.1xxx,
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I've read in FCC filings that all UHF stations broadcasting from 1WTC have
had to attenuate their power while Durst tries to do its job re-tuning the
Combiners.

The WCBS filing mentioned that it hopes to be up to bull power by Labor
Day.
I can understand why you been hounding durst,that really sucks
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I've read in FCC filings that all UHF stations broadcasting from 1WTC have
had to attenuate their power while Durst tries to do its job re-tuning the
Combiners.

The WCBS filing mentioned that it hopes to be up to bull power by Labor
Day.
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In Sussex NJ, RS U-120 (Antennacraft) at ~15dBi gain, with a GaAsFET masthead amp.
I have no problem receiving WXTV and WMBC at circa 20-23dB C/N, but everything off WTC is round 7-10dB C/N. These values are off a spectrum analyzer, so it's no DTV demod "guesstimating" from a raw bit-error rate or double-parked carriers. My antenna response is relatively flat, and I can also see carriers at low level in almost every channel which is not supposed to have coverage here. No spurious from overload either. WNYE off 4TS is even stronger than those from WTC. I thought the situation might improve post-1st, thinking they were running far below their STA numbers vis-a-vis the Durst issues, but though now rearranged in freq, their levels are all about the same here. From 48 miles distant, these antennae sites are barely a degree apart with WTC being ~250' higher. Does it seem likely all WTC UHF clients are running 10dB low? Any other thoughts (or measurements)?
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I cannot receive their sistr station my9 i think some television brands are having a difficult time
on rescan i have sony tv set that has cuny on 24.5 the other subs are on 25.1xxx,
WWOR "my 9" was not impacted by this phase of the repack so their signal should remain the same, unless they had to reduce power to accommodate the tower work for the other stations that were affected.
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WWOR "my 9" was not impacted by this phase of the repack so their signal should remain the same, unless they had to reduce power to accommodate the tower work for the other stations that were affected.
They did have to reduce power and temporarily move from PEP40 (Upper UHF Antenna)
tov PEP96 (Lower UHF Antenna).
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I've read in FCC filings that all UHF stations broadcasting from 1WTC have
had to attenuate their power while Durst tries to do its job re-tuning the
Combiners.

The WCBS filing mentioned that it hopes to be up to bull power by Labor
Day.

My newest TV (which probably has the best tuner) is the only one that will receive anything from Channel 5.1 (Fox). For what its worth, using this TV's "signal strength meter" for the WABC, WCBS, WNBC, WPIX and WNET the signal strength ranges from 92% to 100% and is steady for each channel. For WNYW (Fox) the signal strength varies second to second from 0% to 40%. Somewhere around 30% I start to get poor reception. I hope this starts to improve soon!

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For WNYW (Fox) the signal strength varies second to second from 0% to 40%. Somewhere around 30% I start to get poor reception. I hope this starts to improve soon!
Signal fluctuations like that are often the sign of a multipath problem. If you can, try repositioning your antenna to see if it makes any difference.
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That is why I can't receive WXTV with an indoor antenna. I can't get any stations off the ESB with an indoor antenna. I can however get WJLP with an indoor.
It will depend on what kind of antenna you have. When my Clearstream 2max was indoors last year, I was not able to receive JLP or PIX properly. But I was getting EDW pretty reliably.
Maybe getting a bigger indoor antenna will help? Assuming you do not have a terrace and your building doesn't allow drilling.
Edit: The fact that some of these stations are operating with weaker signals or from temporary locations does not help at all to assess which solution might be best. Sucks!

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It will depend on what kind of antenna you have. When my Clearstream 2max was indoors last year, I was not able to receive JLP or PIX properly. But I was getting EDW pretty reliably.
Maybe getting a bigger indoor antenna will help? Assuming you do not have a terrace and your building doesn't allow drilling.
Edit: The fact that some of these stations are operating with weaker signals or from temporary locations does not help at all to assess which solution might be best. Sucks!
Anyone out in Suffolk long island? I get nothing!!! Is it my setup? Or is everyone on reduced power? I used to get everything in the 80's and 90' signal. I'm 60 miles out, but NEVER had an issue.

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Just lost WCBS and WNBC/WNJU. Get "No Signal" indication on the screen. Wonderful job that the Durst Organization has done at the WTC for the repack!
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Anyone out in Suffolk long island? I get nothing!!! Is it my setup? Or is everyone on reduced power? I used to get everything in the 80's and 90' signal. I'm 60 miles out, but NEVER had an issue.
All the 1WTC UHF stations are at reduced power until most likely Labor Day. That's WCBS, WNJU/WNBC, WNYW, WWOR/WRNN, WPXN and now WLIW who moved to 1WTC and is no longer broadcasting from the tower on exit 48 of the LIE.

Over at Empire, WFUT/WXTV is also broadcasting on a reduced power STA, but much of Suffolk is out of range of that signal and is covered by WFTY instead.


Depending where in Suffolk you are, you might have better luck pointing your antenna North and getting some of the Connecticut stations.
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All the 1WTC UHF stations are at reduced power until most likely Labor Day. That's WCBS, WNJU/WNBC, WNYW, WWOR/WRNN, WPXN and now WLIW who moved to 1WTC and is no longer broadcasting from the tower on exit 48 of the LIE.

Over at Empire, WFUT/WXTV is also broadcasting on a reduced power STA, but much of Suffolk is out of range of that signal and is covered by WFTY instead.


Depending where in Suffolk you are, you might have better luck pointing your antenna North and getting some of the Connecticut stations.
Ugh. What a f'n mess. I went from 90's to zero. Durst really f'd up.
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Anyone out in Suffolk long island? I get nothing!!! Is it my setup? Or is everyone on reduced power? I used to get everything in the 80's and 90' signal. I'm 60 miles out, but NEVER had an issue.
I’m in east Setauket and I’ve lost WCBS and WNET is weak. Hope that full power helps after Labor Day
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rescan and...

After channel changes...I checked prior to a rescan...

I lost CBS 2.1 and 4.1, NBC...5.1 Fox had gone missing prior.

Post scan, again got CBS and NBC on the new channels...Fox locks again. Bonus is now WLIW is lockable, so that is four useful channels gained. LIW does a better PBS job than WNET, who now has a problem with a better competitor...I'd have fought that reassignment...there aren't two ABC or CBS outlets in one market.... I never got LIW before, as the transmitter was hidden by nearby hills.

I'm 42 miles north of NYC, up 250 feet, and even though I'm near the ends of the Contour, my height generally puts me in "green" receive locations even if surrounded by yellow or red. Antenna is a CM 4228-no amps or rotor, feeds four sets total.

Signal levels overall have been higher in the past....I'm seeing on a Tivo 65-75 where I prior saw 85-100 on UHF, but it locks, so it "works".

All the "rescan now" stuff was wrong...as if you rescanned when they told you to, nothing would happen. They needed to say "rescan LATER", but essentially the communication was useless, fully as their job IS communication, and the adverts I saw were more confusing than helpful, and I knew what the subject was...

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I’m in east Setauket and I’ve lost WCBS and WNET is weak. Hope that full power helps after Labor Day
My amp must have crapped out. I'm right by you in stony brook, and had no issues with any stations. Now, EVERYTHING is gone.

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