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30 miles west of the 1WTC and all stations are received as they were before the repack in terms of signal strength and quality. Plus now I am getting WLIW 21.1 and all the subs. Never received WLIW before.
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30 miles west of the 1WTC and all stations are received as they were before the repack in terms of signal strength and quality. Plus now I am getting WLIW 21.1 and all the subs. Never received WLIW before.
You're fortunate!

I've netted out with the total loss of WLNY and WLIW, both of which I had
received with a fairly strong and steady signals.

I've emailed WLIW informing the station of my loss of its signal and included
my specific location.

I realize that when WLNY first changed channels, it used a backup antenna
and that WLIW, along with the other Us on 1WTC, are operating at reduced
power.

I hope, but kind of doubt, that full power will return either of these stations
to me.
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My amp must have crapped out. I'm right by you in stony brook, and had no issues with any stations. Now, EVERYTHING is gone.
When you get up and running, I’d be curious to know if you can get CBS and NET
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When you get up and running, I’d be curious to know if you can get CBS and NET
Trying a new amp Monday. Will let you know. I'm assuming its the amp, as I get nothing at all anymore. OTA, is more of a hobby for me, so i didnt realize I was not getting anything until yesterday because of the repack, and rescan.

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All the "rescan now" stuff was wrong...as if you rescanned when they told you to, nothing would happen. They needed to say "rescan LATER", but essentially the communication was useless, fully as their job IS communication, and the adverts I saw were more confusing than helpful, and I knew what the subject was...
What was wrong about it? I saw several stations advertising that you need to do a rescan after 1pm. I did my scan around 1:02pm and everything was fine. What time did you scan??
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wow! i’ve had this discussion bookmarked but haven't been here for a few years. i use a channel master as a back up just in case fios ever goes out. when i heard cbs and nbc news anchors mention the rescan, i decided to revisit this place and saw that is alive! i did a rescan this morning and all majors are coming in strong for bergen county, paramus, nj. i’m just missing programming data and logos for cbs, nbc, and fox. now that i can aim my antenna more south and hit wtc1, i’m going to over-swing in an attempt to pick up some philly stations on those humid summer nights.

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You're fortunate!

I've netted out with the total loss of WLNY and WLIW, both of which I had
received with a fairly strong and steady signals.

I've emailed WLIW informing the station of my loss of its signal and included
my specific location.

I realize that when WLNY first changed channels, it used a backup antenna
and that WLIW, along with the other Us on 1WTC, are operating at reduced
power.

I hope, but kind of doubt, that full power will return either of these stations
to me.
I got wliw back now, I rescanned my set a number of times last night, signal strengh is much stronger than when it was at melville. Am I right, you use to get wlny tv55 from UWS thats a bit of stretch, long distance.. I live in western Queens can't get it, tepography
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I got wliw back now, I rescanned my set a number of times last night, signal strengh is much stronger than when it was at melville. Am I right, you use to get wlny tv55 from UWS thats a bit of stretch, long distance.. I live in western Queens can't get it, tepography
I'm 10 miles west of NYC in Jersey and I used to be able to pull in WLNY with a fairly stable signal. My house is close to 500' elevation facing east, with a small outdoor antenna.
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Mixed bag here in Park Slope, Brooklyn. I've completely lost WNBC with line of sight to 1WTC...WLIW is loud and clear though.

Has WEDW switched to ESB yet?
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I got wliw back now, I rescanned my set a number of times last night, signal strengh is much stronger than when it was at melville. Am I right, you use to get wlny tv55 from UWS thats a bit of stretch, long distance.. I live in western Queens can't get it, tepography
UES, East 90s.

Yes, I was also amazed!
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Has WEDW switched to ESB yet?
No. The DTS site at ESB has not been built out yet. WEDW applied for an extension until January, so this likely won't be on the air until later this year. I checked the longley-rice coverage map for this DTS, and I noticed much of NYC and the surrounding area is in the "brown" zone which is noted as the "interfering contour". Does that mean people in these areas will not be able to receive WEDW because the 2 signals will cancel each other out?
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Can anyone confirm whether or not WDVB-CD made the transition?

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Looks like WDVB-CD moved today. I just did a re-scan and now I'm picking them up. I was never able to get them before today.
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I checked the longley-rice coverage map for this DTS, and I noticed much of NYC and the surrounding area is in the "brown" zone which is noted as the "interfering contour". Does that mean people in these areas will not be able to receive WEDW because the 2 signals will cancel each other out?

If you're looking at my map, the brown is just because the maps don't play nice when there's more than one on the screen at once. The green signal from ESB should swamp the red signal from Connecticut and all should be fine.


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Looks like WDVB-CD moved today. I just did a re-scan and now I'm picking them up. I was never able to get them before today.
Actually, I think it moved yesterday with the rest of the stations at 1PM. My attic antenna can't pick it up but I'm seeing a steady increase in signal strength on RF 22 starting from 1PM yesterday: https://www.rabbitears.info/tvdx/ren.../22/-3days/now
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Actually, I think it moved yesterday with the rest of the stations at 1PM. My attic antenna can't pick it up but I'm seeing a steady increase in signal strength on RF 22 starting from 1PM yesterday: https://www.rabbitears.info/tvdx/ren.../22/-3days/now
It's possible, or maybe they had an increase in power today. I ran a scan several times throughout the day/night yesterday and didn't pick them up. But after today's scan they are coming in strong.
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When you get up and running, I’d be curious to know if you can get CBS and NET
Forgot I had an extra amp stashed away. Back up and running. Everything mostly in the 70's signal. No wnet though.

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I made all the necessary frequency changes to my MythTV system yesterday and everything seems pretty good. The only thing I've noticed is that I'm not getting any of the virtual channels 63.x, including things like WMBC and QUEST, and I did before (at least a few months ago). Are they still using UHF 18, and if so, did they move to a different transmitter or something?

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Forgot I had an extra amp stashed away. Back up and running. Everything mostly in the 70's signal. No wnet though.
I got CBS back today but the strength is low 90s and the quality varies from upper 40s to low 70s so its not so stable.

I’m hoping that more power might clear that up in the future?
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If you're looking at my map, the brown is just because the maps don't play nice when there's more than one on the screen at once. The green signal from ESB should swamp the red signal from Connecticut and all should be fine.
For those who will be unfortunate enough to receive relatively strong signals for WEDW from both the ESB and Trumbull, a solution would be to use a directional antenna pointed at one of the transmitters.
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I get Wedw by aiming my antenna at hi-rise across the street from me, by means of deflected signal it works really good. Wedw is 50 miles from my location, on the opposite direction
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Bonus is now WLIW is lockable, so that is four useful channels gained. LIW does a better PBS job than WNET, who now has a problem with a better competitor.. .
I'd say WLIW programming compliments WNET programming rather than being a competitor. WLIW/WNET/NJTV are all managed by the same folks now and most cable systems in the region carry at least 2 of the 3.
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I just noticed today. When I press the button on my LG TV to show me the channel and the show title; it seems to be 1 hour off. Anybody else getting this?
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Yeah, WNET's parent organization merged with WLIW back in 2003, and they have been running NJTV ever since NJN was "shutdown" by the Christie administration in 2011.

CPTV on the otherhand frequently airs programs at the same time since they are the PBS station for Connecticut, but with almost zero cable carriage outside of Fairfield county, they aren't really competing for donations in the NYC DMA.
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I'd say WLIW programming compliments WNET programming rather than being a competitor. WLIW/WNET/NJTV are all managed by the same folks now and most cable systems in the region carry at least 2 of the 3.
It would have been nice if WNJN found a way to get on ESB or WTC, even if it was a directional signal pointed west into NJ. Their tower is located southwest of me, and with my antenna pointed east towards NYC I have no chance of getting them. I would think that most people in northeastern NJ are in a similar situation.
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Because of that arrangement where NJ state still owns the licenses and facilities and WNET just programs it, the chances of that happening are very slim. Down in South Jersey WNJS wasn't even able to complete their upgrade in time because they are still at the mercy of the state funding schedule so they are currently broadcasting at a reduced power from a temporary antenna for the next few months.
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FCC Grants Channel-Sharer WRNN's Market Mod Petition
By John Eggerton, Multichannel News - Aug. 2, 2019

What the FCC took, it is now giving back.

The FCC has granted the market modification petition of New York independent TV station WRNN, primarily due to the "changed circumstance" of the FCC's own broadcast incentive auction.

The FCC encouraged broadcasters to participate in the auction, including sharing others' spectrum after they gave up theirs, and WRNN did, giving up its spectrum for a payout and the ability to stay on the air via a sharing agreement, which it has with WWOR Secaucus. ............"


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TL;DR version, basically previously WRNN was limited to only claim must carry status for the areas where it's upstate NY signal reached, now they can claim must carry status for areas where their shared WWOR signal can reach, which will let them get cable carriage in more areas like eastern Long Island and New Jersey.
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Anyone can update if WEDW made the change to rf21?
I am ooh and did not check what happened at the supposed time of change.
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Anyone can update if WEDW made the change to rf21?
I am ooh and did not check what happened at the supposed time of change.
It was confirmed on the Hartford forum that the changeover is complete for WEDW.
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I got CBS back today but the strength is low 90s and the quality varies from upper 40s to low 70s so its not so stable.

I’m hoping that more power might clear that up in the future?
More power will definitely help, but it sounds like you have multipath issues(trees).

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