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Wliw is borderline for me now in Stony Brook. They at reduced power too?

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Yes, WLIW moved to 1WTC and is no longer broadcasting from the tower at Exit 48 of the LIE, and because of that Durst mess they are also stuck at reduced power. See the maps linked to in these posts for a comparison between their reduced power and what will be their full power:

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More power will definitely help, but it sounds like you have multipath issues(trees).
Is it odd that the other stations from WTC don’t vary like cbs? Is it because of wfsb coming across from Connecticut on channel 36?
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Yep WFSB's interference causes a mess of WCBS in Suffolk the closer you are to the sound. Hopefully the FCC approves the application so their replacement translator can return to air from WLNY's tower soon so you don't have to worry about RF 36.
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Yep WFSB's interference causes a mess of WCBS in Suffolk the closer you are to the sound. Hopefully the FCC approves the application so their replacement translator can return to air from WLNY's tower soon so you don't have to worry about RF 36.
Damn. I’m across the street from the sound!

Is the translator in riverhead?

Is it supposed to be on a different channel?

I suppose I’ll need to point an antenna east towards riverhead?
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No, it's from Middle Island where WLNY and WFTY transmit from. If you can get those channels right now with your current setup, you should be good to go.

It will be on RF 22, this is the contour for it:
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FTY comes in strong but LNY is a little weaker

Any idea when this translator will be up and running?
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The FCC has to approve the application first. It's to replace the previous translator they had on RF 22 from the same site, but at a slightly lesser power to protect WDVB in the city, so it shouldn't take much longer after it's approved.

WLNY is currently operating at reduced power, it should be better when they finish their final facility.
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It was confirmed on the Hartford forum that the changeover is complete for WEDW.
I am also getting WEDW on channel 21 but the picture quality is awful . I have Directv and the picture there for WEDW is much better .
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That's because 49 WEDW on DirecTV's NYC locals is just a remap of the spotbeam signal for 24 WEDH in Hartford.

WEDW over the air is temporarily SD only because they gave up a portion of their half of the spectrum they were already sharing with WZME so WTXX-LD could continue to broadcast until they're ready to move to their own signal closer to Hartford.

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So wtxx is moving i can receive their signal, but no picture, evently wedw is gonna carry just 2 subs? when do you see this happening.
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Whenever WTXX builds out their RF 29 facility near Hartford. That has a construction permit that expires in March 2022, but it should be MUCH sooner than that since they were waiting for WUTF in Worcester to move off the frequency first. Hopefully it's done within the next few months.
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FTY comes in strong but LNY is a little weaker

Any idea when this translator will be up and running?
Have you tried pointing across the sound? You should pick up CT locals easily. I can get them in the winter, but I have a ton of trees that way.

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Anyone know if Abc and Wpix on reduced power? Or is it my backup amp? I am having issues with vhf. Wondering if I should buy a new amp.

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Just saw this one - it's WNJU/WNBC's filing to reduce (not attenuate ) its power to allow
Durst, the Worst to work on the PEP40 Combiner.

The disheartening portion is where it's stated -

"The work is expected to take approximately two months."

This could take us to the beginning of October for 1WTC's Us to finally achieve fully
authorized power.

That is twice as long as WCBS's estimate.

UGH!


Description of Request


This application requests special temporary authority ("STA") to operate at a reduced ERP of 408.8 kW so that stations at One World Trade Center authorized to use a different antenna (the “upper antenna”) can transition to their post-auction channels and continue providing service on the same antenna authorized for WNJU (the “lower antenna”) while the upper antenna combiner system is tuned to their post-auction channels. This work is expected to take approximately two months.
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Just saw this one - it's WNJU/WNBC's filing to reduce (not attenuate ) its power to allow
Durst, the Worst to work on the PEP40 Combiner.

The disheartening portion is where it's stated -

"The work is expected to take approximately two months."

This could take us to the beginning of October for 1WTC's Us to finally achieve fully
authorized power.

That is twice as long as WCBS's estimate.

UGH!


Description of Request


This application requests special temporary authority ("STA") to operate at a reduced ERP of 408.8 kW so that stations at One World Trade Center authorized to use a different antenna (the “upper antenna”) can transition to their post-auction channels and continue providing service on the same antenna authorized for WNJU (the “lower antenna”) while the upper antenna combiner system is tuned to their post-auction channels. This work is expected to take approximately two months.
Is everyone already at reduced power?

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Is everyone already at reduced power?
My understanding is that the Us are operating at reduced power.
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My understanding is that the Us are operating at reduced power.
????

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Positive changes in my reception.

A little while ago, WLIW finally showed up on my set.

Had tried earlier in the morning, and per usual, nothing.

Let's see how long this lasts.

Also, with WPXN-LD finally vacating RF29, last night, I was able
to receive WLNY with a strong signal. As in the past, this station
shows up mostly at night. As of now, 29 is blank.

I believe that WPXU-LD, RF12 is supposed to move to 29, if so,
there goes my ability to receive WLNY.
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Just saw this one - it's WNJU/WNBC's filing to reduce (not attenuate ) its power to allow
Durst, the Worst to work on the PEP40 Combiner.

The disheartening portion is where it's stated -

"The work is expected to take approximately two months."

This could take us to the beginning of October for 1WTC's Us to finally achieve fully
authorized power.

That is twice as long as WCBS's estimate.

UGH!


Description of Request


This application requests special temporary authority ("STA") to operate at a reduced ERP of 408.8 kW so that stations at One World Trade Center authorized to use a different antenna (the “upper antenna”) can transition to their post-auction channels and continue providing service on the same antenna authorized for WNJU (the “lower antenna”) while the upper antenna combiner system is tuned to their post-auction channels. This work is expected to take approximately two months.

Since the changeover I am having nothing but issues with WCBS and WNBC/WNJU. I get no signal or low signal strength. Before the frequency change I used to get WCBS at 85 to 95% and WNBC/WNJU at 70 to 80% signal strength. All other stations that changed frequency are also low signal causing issues. At this point I give up with the NY stations and moved my antenna to Philly and get all major stations without any issues. I'll try NY again once Durst Organization gets their mess cleaned up!
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????
In TV broadcaster shorthand, they are either V's or U's. This dates from when V's were prime real estate and U's were a hard to tune Educational channel.

My signal levels are same as yesterday, but the reduced power is clear as all reading (Tivo scale 0-100) are 20 points below what they used to be-everything locks, though and 21-1 is a nice addition.

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kinda wondered what this all actually meant...upper antenna, lower antenna, etc.
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i’ve lost station logos and gracenotes guide data for stations CBS 2, NBC 4, and FOX 5. i’ve done rescans and tv reboots with no results. not willing to do a factory reset. any ideas on what it could be?

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gaining PBS 21 WLIW was worth these past few weeks of confusion
from 11375 i had to point my yagi in the opposite direction to get it,
but now it's free and clear from the same 8 mile away spot as others.

here's today's list of channels i get now if others want it for reference;

PHP Code:
2.1    WCBS-HD    
2.2    STARTTV    
2.3    DABL    
4.1    WNBC    
4.2    COZI
-TV    
5.1    WNYW    
5.2    Movies
!    
5.4    LIGHT    
7.1    WABC
-HD    
7.2    LivWell    
7.3    LAFF    
9.1    WWOR
-TV    
9.3    Buzzr    
9.4    Heroes    
11.1    PIX11    
11.2    Antenna    
11.3    ThisTV    
11.4    TBD    
13.1    WNET
-HD    
13.2    KIDS    
14.1    WNDT
-CD    
21.1    WLIW HD    
21.2    Create    
21.3    World    
21.4    AllArts    
25.1    NYLIFE    
25.2    NYGOV    
25.3    CUNY    
27.1    W20EF
-D    
31.1    ION    
31.2    qubo    
31.3    IONPlus    
31.4    Shop    
31.5    QVC    
31.6    HSN    
33.1    MeTV    
33.2    Laff    
33.3    Grit    
33.4    Escape    
33.5    CourtTV    
33.8    News NJ    
33.10    WJLP
-WX    
33.11    Thunder    
33.12    B985    
33.13    TheBoss    
33.14    1410 AM    
37.1    NJ News    
37.2    WNWT
-WX    
41.1    WXTV
-DT    
41.2    Bounce    
46.1    WMBQ
-CD    
47.1    WNJU
-HD    
47.2    TeleX    
48.1    WRNN
-HD    
48.2    Stadium    
48.3    Arirang    
50.1    WNJN    
50.2    WNJN.2    
58.1    WNJB    
58.2    WNJB.2    
63.1    WMBC HD    
63.2    QUEST    
63.3    SinoVSN    
63.5    NTDTV    
63.7    Aliento    
63.8    WDNJ    
63.9    KCBN    
63.11    WWGB    
63.12    WBTK    
68.1    WFUT
-DT    
68.2    Justice    
68.3    GetTV 
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WNWT-WX? Channel 37? I thought nobody could use that station? Ever? Is "WX" for weather? (I've never seen that suffix with TV before.)
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It's WNWT-LD who spectrum shares with WJLP on RF 3. 37-1 is the same stream as 33-8, 37-2 is the same stream as 33-10. According to the FCC's info it's not supposed to be using 37-x, it should be using 18-x. The weather channel is a slideshow of doppler radar images, forecasts and maritime info with their sister classic rock station playing in the background, the news channel is Newsnet.

The station's history goes back to one of the former Box (and later MTV2) stations for the NYC area on UHF 38, and has a long history of being displaced to various channel numbers because of the digital transition. (First RF 38 analog, then RF 3 analog after WWOR's digital signal displaced them, then RF 3 digital, then RF 50 digital when WJLP used that loophole to move in from across the country) Before becoming WNWT it was last 51-x WBQM on RF 50.

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gaining PBS 21 WLIW was worth these past few weeks of confusion
from 11375 i had to point my yagi in the opposite direction to get it,
but now it's free and clear from the same 8 mile away spot as others.

here's today's list of channels i get now if others want it for reference;

PHP Code:
2.1    WCBS-HD    
2.2    STARTTV    
2.3    DABL    
4.1    WNBC    
4.2    COZI
-TV    
5.1    WNYW    
5.2    Movies
!    
5.4    LIGHT    
7.1    WABC
-HD    
7.2    LivWell    
7.3    LAFF    
9.1    WWOR
-TV    
9.3    Buzzr    
9.4    Heroes    
11.1    PIX11    
11.2    Antenna    
11.3    ThisTV    
11.4    TBD    
13.1    WNET
-HD    
13.2    KIDS    
14.1    WNDT
-CD    
21.1    WLIW HD    
21.2    Create    
21.3    World    
21.4    AllArts    
25.1    NYLIFE    
25.2    NYGOV    
25.3    CUNY    
27.1    W20EF
-D    
31.1    ION    
31.2    qubo    
31.3    IONPlus    
31.4    Shop    
31.5    QVC    
31.6    HSN    
33.1    MeTV    
33.2    Laff    
33.3    Grit    
33.4    Escape    
33.5    CourtTV    
33.8    News NJ    
33.10    WJLP
-WX    
33.11    Thunder    
33.12    B985    
33.13    TheBoss    
33.14    1410 AM    
37.1    NJ News    
37.2    WNWT
-WX    
41.1    WXTV
-DT    
41.2    Bounce    
46.1    WMBQ
-CD    
47.1    WNJU
-HD    
47.2    TeleX    
48.1    WRNN
-HD    
48.2    Stadium    
48.3    Arirang    
50.1    WNJN    
50.2    WNJN.2    
58.1    WNJB    
58.2    WNJB.2    
63.1    WMBC HD    
63.2    QUEST    
63.3    SinoVSN    
63.5    NTDTV    
63.7    Aliento    
63.8    WDNJ    
63.9    KCBN    
63.11    WWGB    
63.12    WBTK    
68.1    WFUT
-DT    
68.2    Justice    
68.3    GetTV 
That's pretty much what I get now after I rescanned today. I'm very happy with the update. I live in Midtown and am especially happy that I now get WLIW, Create, and World, which I used to watch frequently elsewhere.
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Since the changeover I am having nothing but issues with WCBS and WNBC/WNJU. I get no signal or low signal strength. Before the frequency change I used to get WCBS at 85 to 95% and WNBC/WNJU at 70 to 80% signal strength. All other stations that changed frequency are also low signal causing issues. At this point I give up with the NY stations and moved my antenna to Philly and get all major stations without any issues. I'll try NY again once Durst Organization gets their mess cleaned up!
How exactly did you move your antenna to a different city?
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gaining PBS 21 WLIW was worth these past few weeks of confusion
from 11375 i had to point my yagi in the opposite direction to get it,
but now it's free and clear from the same 8 mile away spot as others.

here's today's list of channels i get now if others want it for reference;

PHP Code:
2.1    WCBS-HD    
2.2    STARTTV    
2.3    DABL    
4.1    WNBC    
4.2    COZI
-TV    
5.1    WNYW    
5.2    Movies
!    
5.4    LIGHT    
7.1    WABC
-HD    
7.2    LivWell    
7.3    LAFF    
9.1    WWOR
-TV    
9.3    Buzzr    
9.4    Heroes    
11.1    PIX11    
11.2    Antenna    
11.3    ThisTV    
11.4    TBD    
13.1    WNET
-HD    
13.2    KIDS    
14.1    WNDT
-CD    
21.1    WLIW HD    
21.2    Create    
21.3    World    
21.4    AllArts    
25.1    NYLIFE    
25.2    NYGOV    
25.3    CUNY    
27.1    W20EF
-D    
31.1    ION    
31.2    qubo    
31.3    IONPlus    
31.4    Shop    
31.5    QVC    
31.6    HSN    
33.1    MeTV    
33.2    Laff    
33.3    Grit    
33.4    Escape    
33.5    CourtTV    
33.8    News NJ    
33.10    WJLP
-WX    
33.11    Thunder    
33.12    B985    
33.13    TheBoss    
33.14    1410 AM    
37.1    NJ News    
37.2    WNWT
-WX    
41.1    WXTV
-DT    
41.2    Bounce    
46.1    WMBQ
-CD    
47.1    WNJU
-HD    
47.2    TeleX    
48.1    WRNN
-HD    
48.2    Stadium    
48.3    Arirang    
50.1    WNJN    
50.2    WNJN.2    
58.1    WNJB    
58.2    WNJB.2    
63.1    WMBC HD    
63.2    QUEST    
63.3    SinoVSN    
63.5    NTDTV    
63.7    Aliento    
63.8    WDNJ    
63.9    KCBN    
63.11    WWGB    
63.12    WBTK    
68.1    WFUT
-DT    
68.2    Justice    
68.3    GetTV 
I live close to you, looking at your tv list, I get most of the same stations, except I do not receive wnjb, never could receive jersey,
I receive CT, wedw,wtnh. I get 92 stations, including subs.

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