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Did something chage with the WLIW signal? I've noticed a very weak and/or unusable signal the last couple weeks in SW Nassau, attic antenna pointed at Manhattan....
The 3 NYC area live bandscans over at rabbitears don't show any recent changes in WLIW's signal.
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Brian dont need to be a wiseass okay, I just made a comment, if you have issue with it, nobody is asking your input
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Did something chage with the WLIW signal? I've noticed a very weak and/or unusable signal the last couple weeks in SW Nassau, attic antenna pointed at Manhattan....
I recorded a show on WLIW last week and it was fine. I'm in Jersey.
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I just did a random rescan in here in Brooklyn, and I’m getting a “mode not supported” message on a new 18-6 channel. There’s no useful PSIP I can see, and I haven’t been able to find any info on RabbitEars for a physical channel 18. Any guesses?
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WMBC turned off the PSIP on 63-4.

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Trip, now that some of us jumped on the hdhomerun ATSC 3.0 tuner kickstarter that we should receive by July, do you know what/when/where are NYC's plan for 3.0? i know nothing will happen by the time the tuners shipped, but I'm curious to see if there is anything planned for this year and when. thanks

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Trip, now that some of us jumped on the hdhomerun ATSC 3.0 tuner kickstarter that we should receive by July, do you know what/when/where are NYC's plan for 3.0? i know nothing will happen by the time the tuners shipped, but I'm curious to see if there is anything planned for this year and when. thanks
Given that the city has been pretty much shut down over the past 6 weeks, and shows virtually no signs of restarting anytime soon, I doubt much is going to be happening this year.
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Unfortunately, I have no relevant information beyond what's otherwise public.

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Anyone else notice The WCBS translator at channel 22 is down over the past few days?
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NYC: OTA signal, LTE LPF or line amplifier?

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New member, love the forum! I recently 'cut the cord' and trying to setup my apt for OTA.

Some background:
1978 46fl high-rise in mid-town manhattan with rooftop antenna feeding all apts via wall outlet (75/300FM), 2020 Sony Bravia TV.

Issue:
the signal is strong and receive most of all available channels But on occasion Ch 5.1-5.5 (fox), and 10.1(WLNY) either 'go dark' or exhibit jitter (blocky reception).

It doesn't seem to be related to weather like the old school rabbit-ears, im guessing its interference (I am close to a Tmobile antenna). I've tried adding an indoor RCA amplifier to test if it needed a signal boost—while this helped the jitter sporadically comes back. After some searching, I see there's a LTE filter.


So now im wondering, do I need a LTE LPF or line amplifier (or both?) to clean up though last few stations?

Thanks for you insight and help
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wall outlet (75/300FM)

I'd love to get rid of this for two coax or better yet a splitter in the wall to run a line to the room on the other side of the wall.
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Welcome! Quite impressive that you're receiving WLNY from Midtown - I don't think interference would be the issue for that, but rather the sheet distance from the towers far out in Suffolk. Regarding WNYW, I've had spotty reception in Brooklyn recently, not sure if they're doing work or not.
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Thanks for the info! ch10.1 has been dormant for past 3-4months but before that I would watch it regularly. Good to hear about fox5+ its been been bad the past few weeks.
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WNET Repack?

Just curious. Everything I've seen indicates that the WNET (13.1 etc) repack move from VHF 13 to 12 (and the reverse for Philly 12.1) was supposed to happen Friday 5/1 and clearly nothing's changed. Anyone hear any news on that one?

It seems the web sites for these stations are completely devoid of any info about their frequency changes for some reason.
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Just curious. Everything I've seen indicates that the WNET (13.1 etc) repack move from VHF 13 to 12 (and the reverse for Philly 12.1) was supposed to happen Friday 5/1 and clearly nothing's changed. Anyone hear any news on that one?

It seems the web sites for these stations are completely devoid of any info about their frequency changes for some reason.
Due to the coronavirus and he inability for work to be done on 1WTC, the move to Channel 12
has been postponed until early July.
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Due to the coronavirus and he inability for work to be done on 1WTC, the move to Channel 12
has been postponed until early July.
Ahhh...that makes sense. Thanks!
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What ever happened with the DTS app for WEDW moving to Empire? Is that DOA at this point?
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It's still most likely happening, the construction permit for the DTS was granted last year, but WEDW is focusing on building out their main Trumbull site first and waiting for the FCC to finally dismiss WJLP's baseless objections for good before investing in the buildout of the ESB site.

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HI
New member, love the forum! I recently 'cut the cord' and trying to setup my apt for OTA.

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1978 46fl high-rise in mid-town manhattan with rooftop antenna feeding all apts via wall outlet (75/300FM), 2020 Sony Bravia TV.

Issue:
the signal is strong and receive most of all available channels But on occasion Ch 5.1-5.5 (fox), and 10.1(WLNY) either 'go dark' or exhibit jitter (blocky reception).

It doesn't seem to be related to weather like the old school rabbit-ears, im guessing its interference (I am close to a Tmobile antenna). I've tried adding an indoor RCA amplifier to test if it needed a signal boost—while this helped the jitter sporadically comes back. After some searching, I see there's a LTE filter.


So now im wondering, do I need a LTE LPF or line amplifier (or both?) to clean up though last few stations?

Thanks for you insight and help
I live in Hoboken and sometimes when a helicopter passes I get temporary macro blocking/signal loss on weak stations.
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HI
New member, love the forum! I recently 'cut the cord' and trying to setup my apt for OTA.

Some background:
1978 46fl high-rise in mid-town manhattan with rooftop antenna feeding all apts via wall outlet (75/300FM), 2020 Sony Bravia TV.

Issue:
the signal is strong and receive most of all available channels But on occasion Ch 5.1-5.5 (fox), and 10.1(WLNY) either 'go dark' or exhibit jitter (blocky reception).
With you being in midtown, I'm sure there are all sorts of signal reflections around you. What used to cause ghosts in the analog era now cause pixilation and occasional dropouts with ATSC 1.0. I'm surprised that you were only having trouble with WNYW (Fox). If the building's antenna at over 460 feet AGL is higher than anything around it, then you have a great situation compared to many others in Manhattan.

As marlowja already told you, WLNY (RF 29) should be out of range for you. Your antenna height is helping you get a sniff of that signal.
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With you being in midtown, I'm sure there are all sorts of signal reflections around you. What used to cause ghosts in the analog era now cause pixilation and occasional dropouts with ATSC 1.0. I'm surprised that you were only having trouble with WNYW (Fox). If the building's antenna at over 460 feet AGL is higher than anything around it, then you have a great situation compared to many others in Manhattan.

As marlowja already told you, WLNY (RF 29) should be out of range for you. Your antenna height is helping you get a sniff of that signal.
Not really, wlny can be gotten in west orange, nj.
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Not really, wlny can be gotten in west orange, nj.
Yes the elevation of West Orange makes that possible. My house is around 500' elevation and faces East. I used to be able to pick up WLNY almost every day with an outdoor antenna. But ever since they changed their channel assignment last summer I very rarely receive them anymore.
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Most of Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx, Staten Island and the rest of Northern NJ are going to lose any chance of getting WLNY when W31EF-D (soon to be W29FL-D) and WPXU-LD move to RF 29, while western NJ already has no chance because of WNJB's Hacketstown repeater:
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True, I use AD91xg, I reliably get Wlny from 60 miles away. antenna makes difference..
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Is this part of changeover? soon, like this year..
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Most of Manhattan, Brooklyn, Bronx, Staten Island and the rest of Northern NJ are going to lose any chance of getting WLNY when W31EF-D (soon to be W29FL-D) and WPXU-LD move to RF 29, while western NJ already has no chance because of WNJB's Hacketstown repeater:
https://www.rabbitears.info/contour....4&cir=&circen=
We have been hearing about that move since last summer. Who knows if/when it will ever happen...
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LPTV stations aren't part of any phase, it's just based on whenever they can finish the work, most of them have construction permits that expire in 2022. Many of them waited until they approved 399 reimbursements for LPTV stations before starting construction, while others like WKOB-LD can't move until their new RF number becomes available after Phase 10. Plus with tower crews booked solid and backlogged, most likely won't be able to secure a tower crew until all the Full Power and Class A stations across the country that are currently operating on STAs and Aux facilities finish their final post-repack signals.

Those moves ARE happening because they have to, they can't stay on their current frequencies because of displacement issues, those displacement applications have already been granted and all the mutual issues have been settled via various spectrum sharing agreements:
W31EF-D was displaced by WTXF in Philly's move to RF 31 creating additional interference, so they have to move, they also took the opportunity to move from a tower in NJ to a tower in Manhattan (the same tower that has WKOB's signal)
WPXU-LD (Daystar), who will be sharing on W31EF-D, has to leave RF 12 once WNET is ready to move, so they will go silent until W31EF's RF 29 facility is ready, although Daystar programming will still be available via WKOB 42.2.
WKOB-LD (Azteca) is moving from RF 2 to RF 13 because WDPN in Philly's increase created additional interference, but that can't happen until WNET vacates RF 13.
W41DO-D (HSN2), which was forced off air by T-Mobile, will be spectrum sharing on WKOB's signal
WASA-LD (Estrella), which was forced off air when T-Mobile convinced WWOR to move to RF 25 earlier than originally planned, will also be spectrum sharing on WKOB's signal.
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Is wedw tv49 staying on their allotted frequency at this moment is 21? Is getting difficult to know
who is which rf frequency.
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Is wedw tv49 staying on their allotted frequency at this moment is 21? Is getting difficult to know
who is which rf frequency.
Yes, RF 21.
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