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I see WHPX on channel 28 but they are still booming in here onch 26.
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Another update.

The engineers are looking into the small picture issue on the subchannels of WHPX now.
I am still getting WHPX on RF CH 26 at 100%, the signal on RF 28 is 2%
Did they move WHPX to Rattle Snake MT. area of CT?
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Included are two photos. One showing my VHF-UHF antenna, second showing a view out towards Rehoboth and Needham Massachusetts from my roof. My antenna is 30 feet higher than the camera angel. Although I am in Norwich CT, you can see the hills in western Rhode Island way out in the distant background.
WPXQ Block Island Rhode Island is on 17, I can see their beacon light at night, so you can bet their signal is 100% even on a 2 foot wire antenna indoors and WHPX as well. WEDN's tower is also visible from here.
With a view like this and crappy reception now, I think the FCC wants people to go back to the wire or dish again.
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Your view from the roof looks good to the east. Looks like a fringe V/U on your roof and an 8 bay? You can't do much better. 7 was decoding here last night. I get a signal from 5 throughout the day but no decoding. When WGBH was on 19 I'd get decodes through the evening but not with 5 so far. Ch7 seems to be better here than when they were on 13.
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WBZ choppy signal basically non-watchable.
WBZ posted on their website that they are aware of the pixelation issue and are working on it, there's more about it in the Boston thread.
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Your view from the roof looks good to the east. Looks like a fringe V/U on your roof and an 8 bay? You can't do much better. 7 was decoding here last night. I get a signal from 5 throughout the day but no decoding. When WGBH was on 19 I'd get decodes through the evening but not with 5 so far. Ch7 seems to be better here than when they were on 13.
Yes that is an Solid Signal HDB8X 8 bay in that photo both antennas are pointed north-north-east. They look close together because I had to use zoom to get a close-up of the antenna.
Because the HDB8X has a bracket that allows each bay a different angle, I have them slightly angled for a wider angle.
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I am still getting WHPX on RF CH 26 at 100%, the signal on RF 28 is 2%
Did they move WHPX to Rattle Snake MT. area of CT?
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Yes they have moved to rattlesnake mountain.

I am home now and they appear to have fixed the subchannel issue on WHPX.

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Yes they have moved to rattlesnake mountain.

I am home now and they appear to have fixed the subchannel issue on WHPX.
Now there stands two towers side by side of off route 85 in Waterford, wondering what they plan to do with those now that WHPX is no longer using them.
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Now seeing WEDH on 30. Still up on 45.

for some reason their guide info never shows up right away on one of my converter boxes. If I change channel it will usually show up. Only station that does this. Started this year for some reason.


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Question

So which transmitting tower is channel 26 (ION) on? From anywhere in Berlin or southern Newington, the channel 30 (NBC) tower appears on the left.

So it's now channels 20, 24, 26, 30 and 61 in Farmington? All this happens when I don't have a TV or antenna to tinker with.
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WHPX is now on the tower that WEDH/WEDY, WCCT and WTIC come from.
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I am still getting WHPX on RF CH 26 at 100%, the signal on RF 28 is 2%
Did they move WHPX to Rattle Snake MT. area of CT?
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I just found out they are also transmitting from New London, however that signal will go off tonight at midnight. Then the WHPX signal will only come from Farming.

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That tower has channels 20, 24, 26, 61 and WRCH-FM 100.5 New Britain/Hartford. I wonder why nobody else is on the channel 30 tower? Interesting!
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The towers are a lot more than just TV and FM. There's cellular signals, microwave relays and even antennas for private land-mobile use.
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And...especially at night, I notice the patch of towers with the red blinkers, a.k.a. Radio Park in Farmington. That's home to WLAT-AM 910 of New Britain. I think WRCH-FM 100.5 was over there at one time. I used to live in New Britain's south end. WRCH-FM would've been no problem from any site.
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TiVo is totally messed up. I selected the new channels and de-selected the old ones, but the guide data hasn't moved over yet. Hopefully they fix it soon.
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In a lot of cases Tivo wont change it until someone tells them. Best to send a lineup change to them.

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Will WHPX-TV (ION) channel 26 still be licensed as New London or does that now change? I think most of New London County can still get ION over-the-air from Block Island/Providence, as channel 69's transmitter is close to the Connecticut border.


WHPX's offices are located in New London, and its transmitter was formerly located in the Oakdale neighborhood of Montville near Lake Konomoc. On August 2, 2019, the station‘s transmission tower moved to Rattlesnake Mountain near Farmington, Connecticut, where many Connecticut TV station transmitters are located.


Technically, their transmitter is IN Farmington.
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I reported 3-1, 20-1, 24-1, and 61-1.
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There was some strong Tropospheric activity early this morning around 6am. Was fun to receive a few of the Boston stations. Signals were strong enough to blank out WCCT & WTIC


WBZ on RF 20
WLVI/subchannel Buzzr on RF 42
WYCN NBC 10 on RF 32
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How are people in Eastern Connecticut getting 26 now? Should be interesting now that their transmitter in New London has been turned off and signal is now coming only from Farmington.

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How are people in Eastern Connecticut getting 26 now? Should be interesting now that their transmitter in New London has been turned off and signal is now coming only from Farmington.
Shouldn't the coverage be the same as WVIT, WTIC, and WCCT now that WHPX is broadcasting from the same place?

It's too bad there is no way WTNH could get onto Rattlesnake Mountain. That way people could orient their antenna in one direction to pick up everything. When I used to live in Farmington I was never able to pick up WTNH with an indoor antenna (never had the chance to try an outdoor one).
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It should be, but yesterday 26 was still booming in for people in the East as their old transmitter was still on.

That is not the case today.

Would be wild to me if people who live in the city of license couldn't pick up the signal well.

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I can receive it in Mystic but I have good location with a small tower. Most people at lower altitudes get nothing from Hartford.
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In a lot of cases Tivo wont change it until someone tells them. Best to send a lineup change to them.

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Agreed. When 57 in Springfield changed and 3, 20, 30 and 61 I contacted them using chat to tell them the frequencies changed. Both times they were fixed in a few days. 3, 20, 30 and 61 was fixed yesterday afternoon. Another helpful thing to do is to rerun the guided setup if the old frequencies are not removed from the channel list.
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I always wondered how two analog stations on channel 26 coexisted that well in New England. Before channel 26 of New London signed on in 1986, you had WMEA-TV (PBS) of Biddeford, ME. The two cities are 170 air miles apart. Biddeford is 164 air miles from Hartford. I lived nearby in Old Orchard Beach, ME from 1985 to 1987. My brother's old Quasar VCR had a thunmbwheel preset for channel 26. I tuned to it once back in central CT on a fall 1986 visit. That's how we discovered the station! They were airing a college football game, which was odd, since another area station was airing the same thing...possibly the old channel 20.



WMEA-TV in Maine will move from 45 to 36 by next year. Will that affect WFSB-TV and their new home on channel 36? If anything, I think they'd have to worry more about WCBS-TV (CBS) channel 2, as Manhattan is only 100 air miles from Hartford.
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Less than 100 miles, closer to 85.
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It's too bad there is no way WTNH could get onto Rattlesnake Mountain. That way people could orient their antenna in one direction to pick up everything.
In the years leading up to the analog to digital transition, I think that the owner of the candelabra tower in Farmington invited all Connecticut TV stations to mount their broadcast antennas on that tower. Some declined because it would mean that they would be paying rent and they preferred to stay on their own towers.

There was room for Channel 8. The candelabra tower can hold six antennas at the top because two antennas can be stacked on top of each other in each of the three holders. To get the maximum height, Channel 61's digital antenna was originally stacked on top of its analog antenna (that has not been in use since analog was shut off in 2009).

Channel 8 wanted to put up a tower in Middletown around 1960 to get better coverage in Greater Hartford, but that plan never happened. With broadcasters wanting their signals to reach mobile devices in the future through multiple towers and single frequency networks, I wonder if Channel 8 will eventually find it necessary to have a broadcast antenna in the Hartford area to remain competitive.

After re-scanning my TiVo Roamio Vox, Channel 57 no longer comes in. This is not too surprising given that WGBY is now on VHF 13. I would watch 57 instead of 24 because WGBY has a less irritating channel ID bug than CPTV. Now I watch the PBS YouTube stream where there are no ID bugs.

The only VHF channel that has ever come in without problems in East Windsor is WWLP's 22 on VHF 11. Channel 8/59 on VHF 10 came in when I first hooked up the TiVo in January, but more often than not is a black screen now.
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Funny! I had never heard about WTNH-TV and Middletown!



As for the distance mentioned from Hartford to Manhattan...that's assuming a straight line, point A to point B. It puts New Britain to Manhattan as 92, so it's close enough.
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WHNB I had the opposite with ch57. Flaky at best before the change. Rock solid now on ch13 and antenna is about 45- 50 deg to the west. Location wethersfield.
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In the years leading up to the analog to digital transition, I think that the owner of the candelabra tower in Farmington invited all Connecticut TV stations to mount their broadcast antennas on that tower. Some declined because it would mean that they would be paying rent and they preferred to stay on their own towers.

There was room for Channel 8. The candelabra tower can hold six antennas at the top because two antennas can be stacked on top of each other in each of the three holders. To get the maximum height, Channel 61's digital antenna was originally stacked on top of its analog antenna (that has not been in use since analog was shut off in 2009).

Channel 8 wanted to put up a tower in Middletown around 1960 to get better coverage in Greater Hartford, but that plan never happened. With broadcasters wanting their signals to reach mobile devices in the future through multiple towers and single frequency networks, I wonder if Channel 8 will eventually find it necessary to have a broadcast antenna in the Hartford area to remain competitive.

After re-scanning my TiVo Roamio Vox, Channel 57 no longer comes in. This is not too surprising given that WGBY is now on VHF 13. I would watch 57 instead of 24 because WGBY has a less irritating channel ID bug than CPTV. Now I watch the PBS YouTube stream where there are no ID bugs.

The only VHF channel that has ever come in without problems in East Windsor is WWLP's 22 on VHF 11. Channel 8/59 on VHF 10 came in when I first hooked up the TiVo in January, but more often than not is a black screen now.
I'm in South Windsor and could never get WTNH. Only ABC for me is WGGB. Signal is weak, but seems more stable now than in the past.
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