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WAXA/WMYA was supposed to be ABC affiliate for Upstate SC but WLOS Asheville demanded legal authority for ABC rights in the region. So 13 became the official ABC affiliate, but since moving to digital 13 their signal is now problematic to receive. WLOS owner eventually acquired WMYA through partnership plan. They should simulcast the ABC signal on WMYA to better serve the Upstate, along with MyTV.
They should add a Another sub channel and simucast channel 13 even with their channel 13 Translator on Parris Mountsin it doesn't reach out for enough to cover the Spaartanburg Area and i also think WGGS 16 should make it LPTV channel 28 RF 16 a Simulcast for WGGS 16 since not too many people can get it channel 2 Low Band. when ever get it up and running
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WAXA/WMYA was supposed to be ABC affiliate for Upstate SC but WLOS Asheville demanded legal authority for ABC rights in the region. So 13 became the official ABC affiliate, but since moving to digital 13 their signal is now problematic to receive. WLOS owner eventually acquired WMYA through partnership plan. They should simulcast the ABC signal on WMYA to better serve the Upstate, along with MyTV.


It makes so much sense that WAXA/WMYA should have been an ABC affiliate for the upstate of SC since basically for the south western areas of this market it is nearly impossible to receive WLOS without cable.
I'm surprised that the FCC didn't require it decades ago.

For a time between the early 2000s and 2009 WMYA DID simulcast ABC and it was easily received in this region of the market....

Then WSPA changed their situation last year by making WYCW go dark which simulcasted WSPA on 62.2 so really unless you have cable you cannot receive CBS or ABC in this part of the market. It's really outrageous and inexcusable.
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I've corrected more than one Wikipedia article when I ***KNEW*** facts. I'd encourage you doing so. That's one of the great things with Wikipedia, it is a community edited/written resource.

But avoid opinions ....
I've thought about doing just that. But so far I haven't done the research to make sure I'm 100% correct before revising it. They've left out one owner. Making it seem Frank Outlaw owned it longer than he did. I need to find out the offical name of that company. That owner is the one who changed the call sign to WAXA and bulit the studio near The Jockey Lot.

I have made some some changes to WGTA's page. Since I worked at WNEG, I was sure I knew what I was talking about.

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I would suggest anyone having problems getting WLOS calling them and tell where you are located.
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I would suggest anyone having problems getting WLOS calling them and tell where you are located.
You can get WLOS, it just requires proper antenna, amplifier, and placement.

I found the sweet spot in the attic for indoor rabbit ears stretched to the appropriate angle, combined with an inline amp, and now it comes in solid.
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It looks like UNC-TV has been working on the mountain translators this week. I see 2 channel 17's like I used to have. I think it's the WUNE Marion translator on RF22.



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A scan at 5:30 p.m. Thursday picked up Movies! on virtual channel 28.1 (physical 16.1) and Start TV on 28.2/16.2. I live less than four miles from the tower, so I'm not sure how far the signal reaches.
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A scan at 5:30 p.m. Thursday picked up Movies! on virtual channel 28.1 (physical 16.1) and Start TV on 28.2/16.2. I live less than four miles from the tower, so I'm not sure how far the signal reaches.
That signal is not reaching my area over here in Spartanburg

i sent wggs tv a message they Launch it this afternoon and said they only have Movies and start tv and said more to come

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That signal is not reaching my area over here in Spartanburg

i sent wggs tv a message they Launch it this afternoon and said they only have Movies and start tv and said more to come
I have not yet checked for new channel 28 on RF16. There may be interference issue with UNC-TV translator on RF16 from Tryon Peak. But I get good strong signal from RF15 channel 31 in Spartanburg County. Will check tomorrow but it supposed to rain.

I now get no signal on RF16. No sign of channel 28 from WGGS. So it look like interference issue is a problem as I was getting UNC-TV from Tryon Peak translator channel 58 on RF16. Now no signal whatsoever. But my antenna is not pointed towards Paris Mtn. so I may make an adjustment later this weekend when I have time and see what happen. But I do get a strong signal from RF15 channel 31 from Paris Mtn. so the interference may be a problem, although RF15 may be more power.

Ultimately I am going to set up a GSP/AVL antenna and a separate CLT antenna. If combining antennas causes interference issues then I may use an A/B switch or eventually add a HD Homerun set up, but we shall see. Still experimenting with repack changes, although I do get the major GSP and CLT channels I am interested in, mainly 4, 7, 21, 3, 9, 18, 36, and 46.

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It looks like UNC-TV has been working on the mountain translators this week. I see 2 channel 17's like I used to have. I think it's the WUNE Marion translator on RF22.



Not sure why UNCTV wants to waste taxpayer money on unnecessary translators. Already get to very strong signals from UNCTV on RF36 Linville- channel 17 and RF20 Asheville- RF20. Looks like they already have strong coverage and they just added a translator on RF16 Tryon Peak. But I guess they feel there may be gaps in coverage, but I am not seeing it. WUNE has very strong signal and a far reach, and WUNF is also strong. And I think both are still on interim antennas.
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Not sure why UNCTV wants to waste taxpayer money on unnecessary translators. Already get to very strong signals from UNCTV on RF36 Linville- channel 17 and RF20 Asheville- RF20. Looks like they already have strong coverage and they just added a translator on RF16 Tryon Peak. But I guess they feel there may be gaps in coverage, but I am not seeing it. WUNE has very strong signal and a far reach, and WUNF is also strong. And I think both are still on interim antennas.
Just because you receive multiple signals does not mean there are not places where an individual translator is the only way to get it.

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Just because you receive multiple signals does not mean there are not places where an individual translator is the only way to get it.

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Yes that's why I mentioned there may be gaps in coverage they try to fill. But there is some strong overlap between WUNE and WUNF.
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The Justice Network showed up on Channel 28.3 (physical 16.3) in the Greenville area this morning.
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The Justice Network showed up on Channel 28.3 (physical 16.3) in the Greenville area this morning.

What a coincidence! The Justice Network showed up in Myrtle Beach area on WFXB 43.6 this morning too!

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The Justice Network showed up on Channel 28.3 (physical 16.3) in the Greenville area this morning.
I cannot receive channel 28 in Spartanburg County since they move to RF16 due to interference from UNC-TV translator, Tryon Peak. But I do get strong signal from RF15 channel 31 Paris Mountain. So I am glad they move the Decades to 31. And I can pick up Justice Network on WCNC -36 from Charlotte.
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It looks like the final install on WUNF is taking longer than they thought. Since the 16th (which their website listed as the date they hoped to have it completed) signal strength has dropped to the point where I couldn't lock onto to them last night. Just a radom hint of picture. This morning nothing.

Ah well, it is what it is. It would have been nice if their original petiton to stay on channel 25 could have been granted. That would have clearly provided the veiwers of western NC with the best singal and coverage area. I wonder if there are other cases like this around the country.
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It looks like the final install on WUNF is taking longer than they thought. Since the 16th (which their website listed as the date they hoped to have it completed) signal strength has dropped to the point where I couldn't lock onto to them last night. Just a radom hint of picture. This morning nothing.

Ah well, it is what it is. It would have been nice if their original petiton to stay on channel 25 could have been granted. That would have clearly provided the veiwers of western NC with the best singal and coverage area. I wonder if there are other cases like this around the country.
UNC-TV has completed work on WUNF Pinnacle Mountain. I am able to tune to RF20 WUNF in NC. WUNF may be harder to get since they lost a great deal of height going to Pinnacle Mountain.
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It looks like the final install on WUNF is taking longer than they thought. Since the 16th (which their website listed as the date they hoped to have it completed) signal strength has dropped to the point where I couldn't lock onto to them last night. Just a radom hint of picture. This morning nothing.

Ah well, it is what it is. It would have been nice if their original petiton to stay on channel 25 could have been granted. That would have clearly provided the veiwers of western NC with the best singal and coverage area. I wonder if there are other cases like this around the country.
The repack moved WJZY-FOX46 Charlotte full power signal to RF25 so WUNF had to move due to same channel interference as they would have been too close, as WJZY has tall tower in Gaston County. But why did UNC-TV decide to move WUNF from WLOS tower on Mt. Pisgah to old WYCW tower on Pinnacle Mtn? It would seem they would have had more height and better coverage to the west on the old WLOS tower if they stayed there for RF20.
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UNC-TV has completed work on WUNF Pinnacle Mountain. I am able to tune to RF20 WUNF in NC. WUNF may be harder to get since they lost a great deal of height going to Pinnacle Mountain.
FCC page says WUNF has full power directional antenna at 1809 feet and auxiliary antenna at 1629 feet. Both have null to the west around Lake Hartwell. I wonder if they are on the taller antenna or the lower DTX antenna? And they also may have DTS low power antenna in Asheville on RF25 and low power signal on RF20 in Cherokee, NC. But whatever the case there does seem to be a null in the signal toward Oconee County, SC.
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FCC page says WUNF has full power directional antenna at 1809 feet and auxiliary antenna at 1629 feet. Both have null to the west around Lake Hartwell. I wonder if they are on the taller antenna or the lower DTX antenna? And they also may have DTS low power antenna in Asheville on RF25 and low power signal on RF20 in Cherokee, NC. But whatever the case there does seem to be a null in the signal toward Oconee County, SC.
You know it is what it is. I was getting a better signal from their interm antenna than whatever they're using right now. If you look at the color coded Longley-Rice map the signal it shows at my house is red and no signal once you leave the ridge I live on. WYCW was a problem for me too. But it appears this signal is going to be worse for me than WYCW was.

Maybe when or if they get the Cashiers translator back on line I might be able to get that. Right now it's off the air. Their website says it's unable to recieve a signal from the new tower location. They don't spell out how they plan to fix that. I can a spotty signal sometimes from their Bevard translator, but it's mostly useless.

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You know it is what it is. I was getting a better signal from their interm antenna than whatever they're using right now. If you look at the color coded Longley-Rice map the signal it shows at my house is red and no signal once you leave the ridge I live on. WYCW was a problem for me too. But it appears this signal is going to be worse for me than WYCW was.

Maybe when or if they get the Cashiers translator back on line I might be able to get that. Right now it's off the air. Their website says it's unable to recieve a signal from the new tower location. They don't spell out how they plan to fix that. I can a spotty signal sometimes from their Bevard translator, but it's mostly useless.
The lower height may be a factor, but the directional antenna pattern is not optimized for Oconee County and has a null in that direction. Did the old WUNF signal on 25 also have a directional pattern? Too bad they did not go omnidirectional, but there may have been technical reasons why they chose not to do so.
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The lower height may be a factor, but the directional antenna pattern is not optimized for Oconee County and has a null in that direction. Did the old WUNF signal on 25 also have a directional pattern? Too bad they did not go omnidirectional, but there may have been technical reasons why they chose not to do so.
As far as I know the old signal on the WLOS tower wasn't directional. I would sometimes have some minor problems with them early in morning. That's also a problem with WLOS.

This morning (Christmas Eve) I'm getting WUNF with a signal level of 54%. But with a picture quality level of 24%. With the interim antenna I was getting picture quality readings at 75%. I feel like there's a sweet spot where I can get them okay. I'm just gonna wait until I know they've finished work there to try and figure it out.

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UNC-TV has completed work on WUNF Pinnacle Mountain. I am able to tune to RF20 WUNF in NC. WUNF may be harder to get since they lost a great deal of height going to Pinnacle Mountain.
Has WUNE Linville also completed work or are they still on interim antenna? I get strong stable signal in Spartanburg County.
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Question about in line amps. Right now I'm using a Walmart ONN branded amp for my antenna for WUNF. I have no idea how much gain it has. I can't find it on the Walmart website. I think I paid about $16 for it.

Is there a better choice. One that has more gain or just plain works better?

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Question about in line amps. Right now I'm using a Walmart ONN branded amp for my antenna for WUNF. I have no idea how much gain it has. I can't find it on the Walmart website. I think I paid about $16 for it.

Is there a better choice. One that has more gain or just plain works better?

Thanks.
Don't know about the inline amp but the Onn brand PREAMP has gotten a good review from the Antenna Man on YouTube. Don't know about the inline amp. It looks like the Onn brand preamp made for Walmart may be the same as the GE brand preamp sold on Amazon, made by Jasco. Looks identical, but no real specs provided.

As for inline amps, the Antop inline amp has adjustable gain and LTE filter. And the Winegard LNA100 inline amp has favorable reviews and reportedly has a low noise figure. Both sold on Amazon.
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Don't know about the inline amp but the Onn brand PREAMP has gotten a good review from the Antenna Man on YouTube. Don't know about the inline amp. It looks like the Onn brand preamp made for Walmart may be the same as the GE brand preamp sold on Amazon, made by Jasco. Looks identical, but no real specs provided.

As for inline amps, the Antop inline amp has adjustable gain and LTE filter. And the Winegard LNA100 inline amp has favorable reviews and reportedly has a low noise figure. Both sold on Amazon.
Thanks for the info!!!!!

And I think you're right the one I have looks to be just like the GE.

I had looked at the Winegard and was thinking of trying it. I have a new antenna coming I want to try before I buy anything else.

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Fingers crossed....I think I've found the sweet spot and the antenna that's going to let me get WUNF.

The surprise for me is the antenna. It's not one I thought would be best suited to get them. It's this GE.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/TV-Antenna-...sAAOSw6GJd8T3L
(I didn't pay this much for mine. I only paid around $25.)

It's actually getting everybody except WGGS and WGTA. No surprise there. I wasn't expecting it to get WGGS and the reflector made it unlikely to pick up WGTA from the backside.

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The funny thing is that I get WGGS better now on my UHF Yaggi antenna now than I used to get it before and my amp died and it still comes in good. It the only channel I can get for Parris Mnt.
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The funny thing is that I get WGGS better now on my UHF Yaggi antenna now than I used to get it before and my amp died and it still comes in good. It the only channel I can get for Parris Mnt.
You should be able get their Low Power sister channels from Parris Mtn

channel 31 RF 15

channel 28 RF 16
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