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BenDover 11-26-2003 12:56 PM

How far east on Long Island has anyone been able to receive HD transmissions originating from NYC?

I'm in Smithtown; I noticed one poster was in Kings Park but not sure whether he/she was getting any signal.

Any information would be greatly appreciated; I'm setting up my OTA tuner as we speak

Also, what would be a good antenna to get; I'd prefer an indoor antenna or attic antenna. I'm presuming I will have to use an amplified antenna to get any OTA signals from the major broadcasters who originate in NYC metro area.

seldenpat 11-26-2003 01:54 PM

I'm in Selden. Member Lomax is out in Center Moriches. He must have the record!

2 story house Attic mounted CM 4228 pointed to NYC, RS VU-190 XR pointed to CT, CM 7777 Preamp.

CBS 75-90
FOX 80-90
ABC 7.1 50-75
ABC 8.1 50-75
PBS 21.1 50-75

sresnik 11-26-2003 04:48 PM

Finally a thread for us in Suffolk. Here's my rundown:

Voom
Direct TV HD- Sony Sat-HD300
Rat Shack UV120 Antenna on 10 foot mast on roof of 2 story house
CM7777 pre-amp
CM rotator (just installed yesterday)

I get all the locals from NYC except NBC and WPIX
ABC is hit or miss, but with the rotator I hope to be able to get a better lock by fudging with it (a lot easier than going on the roof ), but can usually get a good signal from CT ABC. I think NY ABC is of better quality, probably because it is an originating feed not a downlink from a network feed.

Scott

clanger 11-26-2003 05:55 PM

BenDover
I'm in St. James. I can get ABC,FOX CBS, WLIW and sometimes NBC. I have attic mounted Channel master 4228 with 7777 pre amp

rcliff 11-26-2003 06:24 PM

I have a place out near East Hampton and doubt that it's possible to get anything but was thinking about taking my CM Stealthtenna w/amp. I used it exclusively pointed at WTNH at 50mi distance with excellent results but no longer need it now that WABC is live. I doubt I would get a blip from NYC out at the east end but maybe something Providence, not sure if they have any HD channels though.

lomax 11-26-2003 06:25 PM

All you western Suffolk people got it easy.

I get CBS 70s but jump around a bit
FOX 60s UPN who cares its garbage
ABC 40-50
NBC 15-20 no lock
WB 5 Blip Zilch
PBS 60s

I get ABC CT 95 or better
UPN CT 85 Better UPN but still not HD
PBS CT 70s

All With a CM 4228, CM 7777 Pre-amp, a RS Rotor
and RS 40ft telescoping mast on on top of two story home.

BenDover 11-29-2003 07:20 AM

Oh darn, I'm sorry, I've been so busy with the holiday and researching hardware that I missed the responses in this post.

I just ordered a Winegard HD-8200P and AP-8275 preamp; I was planning on mounting on the roof on top of a 10' mast but now I'm wondering if I can get away with an attic mount (mainly to avoid the wife's scorn...heh)

I'll post my results...I'm hoping to be able to pull in all available channels.

seldenpat 11-29-2003 02:35 PM

FYI.

Should start the snowball rolling down the mountain. I expect us early adopters will be getting lots of calls from friends and family members!

I can only imagine what it will be like trying to talk my mother through hooking up component video!

http://www.newsday.com/business/ny-h...-top-headlines

In reading through this, I'm a little disappointed they don't mention the now "free" HD content coming from NYC. All four major networks now broadcasting and available for as little as a $40 indoor antenna for some. Mentioning $750 for Voom may serve to scare some away.

seldenpat 11-29-2003 02:46 PM

Quote:


Originally posted by sresnik
Finally a thread for us in Suffolk. Here's my rundown:

Voom
Direct TV HD- Sony Sat-HD300
Rat Shack UV120 Antenna on 10 foot mast on roof of 2 story house
CM7777 pre-amp
CM rotator (just installed yesterday)

I get all the locals from NYC except NBC and WPIX
ABC is hit or miss, but with the rotator I hope to be able to get a better lock by fudging with it (a lot easier than going on the roof ), but can usually get a good signal from CT ABC. I think NY ABC is of better quality, probably because it is an originating feed not a downlink from a network feed.

Scott

Scott, was your OTA antenna installed by Voom, or did you have it before you got Voom?

feloniousmonkey 11-29-2003 02:55 PM

seldenpat, thanks for the info. interesting, I think we are ahead of the "curve"

F

sresnik 11-29-2003 08:58 PM

seldenpat,

My Antenna was installed by voom on a 5 foot mast. After the bad wind we had a few weeks ago it blew over (not off) so I picked up another set of mounts, the pre-amp and the 10foot mast. I installed everything and added a footing to the roof for stability. I was able to get Voom to pick up the cost of the pre-amp. I then called the installer on his off day to install the rotor on the side, as I didn't want to try running the wire myself..

Scott

seldenpat 11-29-2003 09:46 PM

Quote:


Originally posted by sresnik
seldenpat,

My Antenna was installed by voom on a 5 foot mast. After the bad wind we had a few weeks ago it blew over (not off) so I picked up another set of mounts, the pre-amp and the 10foot mast. I installed everything and added a footing to the roof for stability. I was able to get Voom to pick up the cost of the pre-amp. I then called the installer on his off day to install the rotor on the side, as I didn't want to try running the wire myself..

Scott

Nice! Mastic's a nice poke away!

BenDover 11-30-2003 06:51 AM

sresnick, i would be interested in getting the installers contact info; i was going to install myself but if there are actually people who do antenna installs i just may pony up the greenbacks and save myself some headaches

Paul K 11-30-2003 10:34 AM

I'm out in Bellport, LI and I am able to receive WCBS, Fox/Upn, and WLIW very well. I've been receiving WABC intermittently, but I think that's because they are still tinkering with their signal. I haven't been able to receive WNBC yet, though.

Although I'm not the farthest from NYC, as you can see in the attached picture, I am using a smallish antenna that is sitting on the GROUND. I am also using a Winegard 4800 UHF preamp. I originally installed this antenna with the hope of receiving WTNH from Connecticut. I was pleasently surprised that I could receive all of the stations transmitting from NYC with it.
LL

Keith 11-30-2003 10:56 AM

NYC and Long Island DTV Signals:
WCBS
WNBC
WNYW / WWOR
WABC
WLIW
WLNY
WFTY
But I can't get:
WNET & WPIX (Due to VHF Antenna pointed toward CT)

Connecticut DTV Signals:
WTNH
WFSB
WHPX
WCTX
WEDN

But I can't get:
WTXX

I use a CM4228 (UHF), RS (VHF) Antenna
with a CM7777 Mast Mounted Pre-Amp, a RS Rotor,
which is a top a 10ft Tripod with about 10 foot mast.

Ed Barclay 11-30-2003 02:21 PM

Quote:


Originally posted by Keith
But I can't get:
WNET & WPIX (Due to VHF Antenna pointed toward CT)

Even if you had a VHF pointed towards NYC you would probably not get these stations. WNET is actually on UHF channel 61 at low power and pointed to NJ. WPIX is on VHF channel 12 but only at 125 watts so reception in Kings Park would be difficult

rcliff 11-30-2003 03:03 PM

Quote:


Originally posted by Ed Barclay
Even if you had a VHF pointed towards NYC you would probably not get these stations. WNET is actually on UHF channel 61 at low power and pointed to NJ. WPIX is on VHF channel 12 but only at 125 watts so reception in Kings Park would be difficult

WTXX is also on VHF 12 so he'll get one or the other but not both WPIXDT and WTXXDT. Then again who needs 2 WB's. I would point a directional UHF antenna toward the CT channel from Kings Park. I had no problems picking up WTXX before WPIX went live with a silver sensor in Roslyn. Since channel 12 is at the top of the VHF band, UHF antennas seem to work fine.

BenDover 12-03-2003 10:49 AM

Since there are some people here that have already suffered through some of the pain maybe i can get some advice.

if i put up two antennas, one i would obviously point towards nyc but what would be the optimal direction for the second antenna (assume for now that i would use my large cm3671 to pick up nyc and the 8 bay bowtie to pick up anything else that might be within my grasp)...thanx in advance

btw, they will both be mounted on rotators but i was interested in pointing them primarily in one orientation to pick up as many as possible.

csimons66 12-09-2003 08:07 PM

Has anyone had a hard time picking up WLIW's signal on Long Island. I'm in northern Nassau County and have had trouble getting the signal over the past few days. I'm using a Motorola VOOM STB and not picking it up. Haven't tried hooking up the SAmsung OTA STB yet to see if it's a signal problem or a STB problem. Anyone?

Dannygee 12-27-2003 07:38 AM

I'm in in Port Jefferson Station, about 58 miles from NYC.
I get:
NYC:
CBS 90s
NBC no lock
ABC 25 no lock
Fox 70s
PBS (21) 90s
CT:
ABC (WTNH) 95
PBS 50s
WB (20) 70s

I have a CM 4228 with a CM rotator and CM7777 pre-amp
on a 2 story house.
Does anyone in Suffolk get WNBC-DT on a consistent basis.
Since WTNH (ABC) is so good I don't bother with WABC which rarely locks.

- Dan

lomax 12-27-2003 05:26 PM

I'm in in Center Moriches, about 65 miles from NYC.
I get:

NYC:
CBS 90s...............It is a bit picky about pointing
NBC 15.................I get blips all the time but no picture yet
ABC 55.................When they are on the air and no messing up them selfs
Fox 80s................No problems just no HD
PBS (21) 90s........No problems ever

CT:
ABC (WTNH) 98....Easy get it with my UHF antenna fine
PBS 75s................Had Ct PBS for a long time now
WCTX UPN 80.......Just wish they would spend the money on HD gear
WB (20) 10...........Blip thats it no pic ever
WFSB 20 .............Few times get a pic
PAX RI 45.............Some pax channel only get it if i spin the ant. way east.
TV55 100.............No HD IND wast of bandwith
UNIVION(23) 75...I do not speak Spanish

I have a CM 4228 with a CM rotator and CM7777 pre-amp
on a 2 story house mounted on a 40ft RS telescoping mast. Also a Dat-75 mounted just below for looks.

"Does anyone in Suffolk get WNBC-DT on a consistent basis?" NO not me

BenDover 01-09-2004 09:53 PM

anyone on long island able to receive WB programming? where are they broadcasting from?

i seem to be getting the other major networks ok, either from nyc or ct but i have yet to see the wb show up anywhere...maybe if i knew where to point my antenna. whatever is listed on antennaweb.org must be out of my range (roof mounted cm3671 w/7777 preamp).

i plan on popping my 8-bay bowtie up on the roof this weekend (or maybe not with this super-frigid weather), will a bowtie give me better reception? i've seen some indicated that bowties are the way to go, even though cm's site shows the cm3671 as having the furthest reach.

Ed Barclay 01-09-2004 10:17 PM

Quote:


Originally posted by BenDover
anyone on long island able to receive WB programming? where are they broadcasting from?

Your location would have been helpful. WPIX-DT is on VHF channel 12 from the Empire State Building. They are only at 125 watts and are difficult to receive. If you are in Suffolk County I would not even try.

BenDover 01-09-2004 10:31 PM

sorry, i'm in smithtown...i thought it was in my profile and appeared on my posts but i am mistaken...

thanx for the info.

do they plan on bumping up the power?

Ed Barclay 01-09-2004 10:51 PM

Quote:


Originally posted by BenDover
do they plan on bumping up the power?

Yes, and they will go back to their original channel 33. Hopefully by the summer on the Empire State Building antenna combiner project.

DVW 01-10-2004 05:24 AM

I'm in Patchogue. I have a Winegard 9095 w/Ap4800 pre-amp on rotor. 2 story house. Get ABC, CBS, Fox, CH21pbs, CH23-1, CH57-1 fine. Could turn the rotor to get some of the CT stuff in HD but not much reason to. Also have VHF-H yagi to get ABC from new haven but don't really need that much now that ABC-NY is on the air. Would like to see more OTA HD. Love the football.

BenDover 01-10-2004 11:21 AM

the football is spectacular, i just wish i had finished my basement remodel in time for the superbowl as then i can set up my 57" lcos toshiba and watch everyone's jaw drop when they see the bowl in hdtv glory...truly breathtaking!

abc from ct is usually a stronger signal so since you have a rotor you might want to use it to aim the antenna over there while watching monday night football

BenDover 01-16-2004 10:52 AM

this damned weather almost took down my antenna. it is leaning over and it doesn't appear as though either of the chimney mount straps has "broken" but something is definitely amiss since the pole is leaning over as a result of something wrong with the top strap.

roof was a sheet of ice yesterday so i couldn't get up there to [email protected]#%!

capmeo 01-19-2004 06:49 PM

I am contemplating the purchase of an Channel Master 4228 mounted on my roof for OTA reception. Do I need an antenna rotor? or is this sufficent for the majority of channels.

Thanks in advance.

DumbLuck 01-19-2004 08:49 PM

Quote:


Originally posted by capmeo
I am contemplating the purchase of an Channel Master 4228 mounted on my roof for OTA reception. Do I need an antenna rotor? or is this sufficent for the majority of channels.

Thanks in advance.

I'm wondering the same thing. Aside from getting CT channels, the rotor may help to fine tune anything coming from NYC. For the most part, I think the signals are only a few degrees apart; so I'm going to try without the rotor first.

Is the 4228 the best distance antenna out there? or are there equivalents?


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