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Is WSVF still on channel 43? I was seeing it pretty reliably and now I don't. When are the moving to channel 36.

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WSVF-CD is still coming in fine for me as 43.1 and 43.2. Not sure about any other construction plans.
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WSVF is part of Phase 8 of the repack which is between 1/18/2020-3/13/2020
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Effect of NBC29-Charlottesville acquisition

http://www.nbc29.com/story/40065057/...purchase-nbc29

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Gray Television to Purchase NBC29

NBC29 is being sold to a new corporate owner.

CHARLOTTESVILLE, Va. (WVIR) - NBC29 is being sold to a new corporate owner.

WVIR-TV’s parent company, Florida-based Waterman Broadcasting, made the announcement Monday, March 4.

“The decision to sell WVIR-TV has been challenging and emotional,” said Waterman Broadcasting President Edith B. Waterman. “We have had the great privilege of proudly serving Charlottesville and its surrounding communities since 1986.”

Gray Television will be acquiring NBC29. Pending federal approval, this sale could be finalized in the second or third quarter of this year.

And my question is this: Would you expect Gray to rationalize and combine translators, or to continue to build out translators as the separate WHSV and WVIR plans would have called for? (Just asking for speculation -- Gray has not publicly said anything about its strategy that I can find.)
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WUPV 65-1 just switched to physical channel 8. Most people in the Charlottesville market who get channel 12 will probably get 65-1. Rescan and see what you get.

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Any signs of activity on RF 2 in Charlottesville? WVIR requested permission to simulcast on their new transmitter for the next month until they turn over RF 32 to WCAV on September 6. I'm no longer in that area, but curious how that shift to a VHF-lo frequency goes over.
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WHSV plans?

Is there any reason to think WHSV will be moving ahead with translator plans any time soon? I ask because the station's (apparent) highest priority project is stuck as of this summer (https://www.whsv.com/content/news/IM...499430771.html), and the station's Massanutten project on RF 34 is even further back in the queue (https://www.rabbitears.info/contour....bdd0acc&site=5).

Also, if it's not too technical, why is there that thin area of bad coverage just west of Harrisonburg on the map at https://www.rabbitears.info/contour....dd0acc&site=5?
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Also, if it's not too technical, why is there that thin area of bad coverage just west of Harrisonburg on the map at https://www.rabbitears.info/contour....dd0acc&site=5?

Protection of the National Radio Quiet Zone in West Virginia. Same reason WHSV had to relocate.


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Is there any reason to think WHSV will be moving ahead with translator plans any time soon?
I'm guessing that all technical resources are tied up trying to keep the repack on schedule. So nothing is going to happen until next year.

https://lakeshorepublicmedia.org/blo...d-operational/

While Lakeshore PBS was initially unaffected by the repack, the needed repair was delayed by the lack of certified technicians who were certified and available to do the work on their 990’ structure.
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WHSV posted an update about their translators on Aug 29.



No time estimate for Big Mountain as they are just starting the process to build a new tower.



Massanutten Peak - mid-March 2020.



https://www.whsv.com/content/news/IM...499430771.html
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Rescanned using the DirecTV AM21 and will not pick up 27-1. My TV will pick it up, but not having any results with the AM21. Will not display 35-1 in Richmond either. It's telling me I have signal strength problems. 29-1 reads 100%.

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Rescanned using the DirecTV AM21 and will not pick up 27-1. My TV will pick it up, but not having any results with the AM21. Will not display 35-1 in Richmond either. It's telling me I have signal strength problems. 29-1 reads 100%.
The AM21, I believe, uses a database to display OTA signals... it's not actually scanning for signals like the tuner in your TV. Until DIRECTV updates their database to the correct frequency, you'll keep getting the same results. I have one of their new LCCs (Local Channel Connector) and believe it too doesn't "scan" for locals. Our market starts in Phase 7 (and a couple in Phase 9) which is just a few months away. Though I don't "need" an antenna, I do like to use it when the weather affects the sat signal...

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The AM21, I believe, uses a database to display OTA signals... it's not actually scanning for signals like the tuner in your TV. Until DIRECTV updates their database to the correct frequency, you'll keep getting the same results. I have one of their new LCCs (Local Channel Connector) and believe it too doesn't "scan" for locals. Our market starts in Phase 7 (and a couple in Phase 9) which is just a few months away. Though I don't "need" an antenna, I do like to use it when the weather affects the sat signal...
Thanks. Since I posted, I added an amplifier, rescanned, and now I get the ones I was missing. But there is still an oddity. The scan picked up 27-1 WAHU, which I had without the amplifier, and 27-1 Fox with the amplifier. WAHU has no reception while Fox is perfect. Any idea what 27-1 WAHU is?

I had to stop using the AM21 because we found a compatibility problem with the AM21 and the HR44/54. I was getting too many freezes and had to continually reboot the HR device. We went through 4 HR44's until we determined the problem was the AM21.
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The AM21 hasn't needed the frequency to match for ages. One of the firmware updates a few years ago changed it so it can now match on just the major-minor number alone.

If it's a situation where some stations swapped frequencies, you might need to select reset antenna settings first, do a double reboot to clear the old entries from memory, and then rerun initial setup.

The whole Fox/WAHU thing is complicated. If RabbitEars's PSIP listings for them are up to date, WAHU-CD's low power RF 35 signal maps to 35.1, while 27.1 is a subchannel on WCAV's RF 19 signal. Since WCAV got a last minute change to Phase 6, some guide data providers might have jumped the gun and already changed their listing to RF 32 when they did their mass update for Phase 5.

For things where it was able to match on the major-minor numbering, the AM21/LCC uses the callsign in the database, while for things that can scan for additional channels like the HR44/HR54, it adds the non-matched channels with their PSIP labels.
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The AM21 hasn't needed the frequency to match for ages. One of the firmware updates a few years ago changed it so it can now match on just the major-minor number alone.

If it's a situation where some stations swapped frequencies, you might need to select reset antenna settings first, do a double reboot to clear the old entries from memory, and then rerun initial setup.
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Since the WVIR & WCAV deals were completed yesterday? Is WAHU-CD still streaming Fox programming on 35.1?
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So TV3 is going to have an NBC station (https://www.whsv.com/content/news/WHSV-announces-launch-of-NBC-and-CW-Plus-affiliations-NBC-3-in-the-Valley-561973051.html), but what frequency will it use? Good old RF 30 from Massanutten?
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So TV3 is going to have an NBC station (https://www.whsv.com/content/news/WH...561973051.html), but what frequency will it use? Good old RF 30 from Massanutten?
Gray applied to change that W30CT-D callsign to WSVW-LD after the closing of the WVIR deal (which happened earlier this week). I wouldn't be surprised if they use that signal.
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It sounds like the same thing Gray Television is doing where I live (Mankato, MN)

Mankato is a 1 station market (KEYC CBS & FOX) that was recently purchased by Gray (from previous owner United Communications) and is the only station in the DMA. There was a translator on 38 that Gray is turning into a low powered station on RF7 and will have NBC & CW.
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Hey Trip,

I see that WCAV is advertising Scan Day as December 1 and WVIR wants to move into the next phase. Can you provide any insight. Apparently remaining on the old channel is not delaying the repack?

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We will need to move into Phase 7 due to late deliveries of the tower, antenna and line. We will also need to wait for the foundation.
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Phase 7 began on October 19th and ends on January 17th. So in order to change their date to December 1st they both had to be reassigned to Phase 7.

Since the delay is only affecting WVIR and WCAV, it won't affect the overall repack. There will be some minor interference with WZBJ-CD from Lynchburg, but WCAV agreed to accept it.
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Exactly right. As long as WCAV moves before WAVY does, there's no issue.

I have a feeling the December 1 date will hold.

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There will be some minor interference with WZBJ-CD from Lynchburg, but WCAV agreed to accept it.
I realize that both stations are owned by Gray Television so it is not an issue but does WZBJ-CD also have to agree so accept some interference?

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As long as WCAV moves before WAVY does, there's no issue.
What about WVIR? how long can they delay before they impact the repack?
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I realize that both stations are owned by Gray Television so it is not an issue but does WZBJ-CD also have to agree so accept some interference?
Gray agreed to accept whatever interference occurred in both directions.

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What about WVIR? how long can they delay before they impact the repack?
WVIR is blocking WCAV, but that's it. If not for WVIR's delay, WCAV would have transitioned back in September.

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So are we expecting WVIR to transition on Dec 1st? I don't see anything about rescanning on their website.
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So are we expecting WVIR to transition on Dec 1st? I don't see anything about rescanning on their website.
The way I hear it, they will either transition, or go off the air, on Dec 1. (With WVIR-CD used to keep the station on the air.) Either way, it clears the path for WCAV.

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I realize that both stations are owned by Gray Television so it is not an issue but does WZBJ-CD also have to agree so accept some interference?
I'm having a hard time keeping up. If I understand correctly WCAV is now owned by Lockwood, not Gray. So both Gray WZBJ-CD and Lockwood WCAV agreed to accept some interference.
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The agreement was made before the sale closed. At the time, Gray owned WCAV and WZBJ-CD.

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More December 1 changes

So as Gray Television integrates WVIR 29 into its properties there are some more channel lineup changes coming:

https://www.whsv.com/content/news/Pr...565120362.html

That will put NBC29 on 3.2 and move CBS The V to 3.5. (This is all on RF 20 from Elliott Knob, right? Is there enough bandwidth to do all that and maintain decent picture quality? Rhetorical question.)

But then what happens to that nice RF 22 from Elliott Knob? Does anyone know what the final lineup looks like, on Elliott Knob or Massanutten or both?

Finally, I could be wrong in any assumption in the above . . . will happily stand corrected if anyone knows.
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WVIR released a statement regarding its signal this morning.

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NBC29 is in the process of switching to a new frequency to broadcast our television signal. This change only impacts viewers who receive NBC29 using an antenna. Cable and satellite viewers are not affected. If you receive our signal over the air, you will need to rescan your TV’s channel receiver.

We are aware that some of our antenna viewers are no longer able to receive NBC29, even after re-scanning their televisions. We are currently broadcasting on a low-power frequency while we erect a new tower. We apologize for this inconvenience and are working hard to get our over-the-air signal to as many viewers as possible. We expect the new tower and antenna to be operational next month.
So assuming the RF 35 (WVIR-CD) is operating, they haven't lighted up RF 2 (WVIR-TV) yet?
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So assuming the RF 35 (WVIR-CD) is operating, they haven't lighted up RF 2 (WVIR-TV) yet?

WVIR-TV filed a CP extension on Nov. 27, requesting a CP completion date of July 15, 2020.

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