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WJDE (Channel 31) disappeared yesterday afternoon or this morning. I have just checked their website (wjde31.com) and it stated that channel 31 is moving to channel 23 on November 22 and you need to rescan. Hopefully this move will get channel 31 a better signal around Nashville, although most of the channels are not that good anymore except I like Heartland sometimes.
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WJDE (Channel 31) disappeared yesterday afternoon or this morning. I have just checked their website (wjde31.com) and it stated that channel 31 is moving to channel 23 on November 22 and you need to rescan. Hopefully this move will get channel 31 a better signal around Nashville, although most of the channels are not that good anymore except I like Heartland sometimes.
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It would appear WTVF(RF36) is running full power from the top of the antenna as of this afternoon. I’m seeing signal strength as good or better than before the re-pack. Still waiting for 17 and 58 to go full power, especially 58 for CW in HD (WBKO 13-3 has CW in SD). I barely get enough signal in the evening to lock in 17 and 58 and no sign ever of 44 which was pretty solid prior to adding MeTV. Channel 28 is rock solid. Some screen captures of signal strength from 10 miles north of Bowling Green. This is very typical of a night without any major atmospheric skip.
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It would appear WTVF(RF36) is running full power from the top of the antenna as of this afternoon. I’m seeing signal strength as good or better than before the re-pack. Still waiting for 17 and 58 to go full power, especially 58 for CW in HD (WBKO 13-3 has CW in SD). I barely get enough signal in the evening to lock in 17 and 58 and no sign ever of 44 which was pretty solid prior to adding MeTV. Channel 28 is rock solid. Some screen captures of signal strength from 10 miles north of Bowling Green. This is very typical of a night without any major atmospheric skip.
Yeah, Channel 5 is watchable again here.
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WTVF RF 5 is now back on the air! They turned it on at about 4:20pm this afternoon. They can still be found at 5.11-5.13. Also, they posted this story. Our antenna work is complete....

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WTVF RF 5 is now back on the air! They turned it on at about 4:20pm this afternoon. They can still be found at 5.11-5.13. Also, they posted this story. Our antenna work is complete....
Weird, I've continued to only get a very low signal from 5.11-5.13 (no picture) here in Clarksville, while 5.1-5.3 is still coming in high, but now it's back to being a high, but garbled, pixelated picture again (as was happening ever since this work began, but had seemed to have cleared up on Saturday or Sunday).

I checked that my virtual 5.1-5.3 channels are coming from RF 36 (nothing I did manually), and 5.11-5.13 are coming from RF 5. I don't know if this is something non-standard that Windows Media Center has done. I've done a re-scan to be sure, but that hasn't changed anything. I've been meaning to re-do my setup from scratch, so I'll give that a shot and follow-up here.

Edit: After a fresh install, signal is still garbled like it's been for the past month. Also, the virtual 5.1-5.3 channels *are* being automatically detected on RF 36 by WMC.

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WTVF RF 5 is now back on the air! They turned it on at about 4:20pm this afternoon. They can still be found at 5.11-5.13. Also, they posted this story. Our antenna work is complete....
Thanks for the update. But it looks like something happened to RF 5 this morning, maybe around 11:30? I had the impeachment hearings on and they were coming in great on RF 5 (channel 5.11). Then I switched around to a couple of other networks airing it (ABC 2.1 and NBC 4.1). When I switched back to 5.11, it wouldn't come in and the signal strength had fallen way down from, I think, 81% to 20%. (But CBS was still coming in fine on 5.1 / RF 36). Checked again around 1 PM and the situation was the same.

So maybe they're NOT quite done yet with their work on RF 5, even though they thought they were yesterday afternoon?
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Does anyone on here have any tips for trying to pick up the Nashville stations from the Cookeville area? Has anyone gotten it to work? Please advise.
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Weird, I've continued to only get a very low signal from 5.11-5.13 (no picture) here in Clarksville, while 5.1-5.3 is still coming in high, but now it's back to being a high, but garbled, pixelated picture again (as was happening ever since this work began, but had seemed to have cleared up on Saturday or Sunday).

I checked that my virtual 5.1-5.3 channels are coming from RF 36 (nothing I did manually), and 5.11-5.13 are coming from RF 5. I don't know if this is something non-standard that Windows Media Center has done. I've done a re-scan to be sure, but that hasn't changed anything. I've been meaning to re-do my setup from scratch, so I'll give that a shot and follow-up here.

Edit: After a fresh install, signal is still garbled like it's been for the past month. Also, the virtual 5.1-5.3 channels *are* being automatically detected on RF 36 by WMC.
Ignore what I said about RF 36 signal quality -- I just discovered that my tuner is the weak link! I temporarily tested a TV with built-in tuner by the antenna, and CBS comes in clear. Looks like it's time to get a better tuner.
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Does anyone on here have any tips for trying to pick up the Nashville stations from the Cookeville area? Has anyone gotten it to work? Please advise.

If you would post the *technical* info about your current setup (antenna, height of antenna, coax run, etc) it might help those familiar with the area make practical suggestions for you. I see that Cookeville is roughly 70 miles east of Nashville, as the crow flies. I know a guy near Benton KY (100 miles NW) and he can't hide from the Nashville stations. But then he has a 50' tower with some serious antennas on a rotator.

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I think WHTN 39 in Lebanon is back up to full power, too.
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Does anyone on here have any tips for trying to pick up the Nashville stations from the Cookeville area? Has anyone gotten it to work? Please advise.
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I live on HWY 70 west one mile east of the White/Cumberland county line, I had to build my own antenna array to receive the Nashville stations. My objective was to receive WTVF 5 on RF channel 36. When I built my antennas WTVF was still transmitting on RF channel 25 so I designed and built my antennas for RF channel 36 so I would be ready for the change over. (Repack) As of Oct.-18-2019 I have only received WTVF one time for a few minutes was last week. I can see a very week single on Ch 36 but it's not strong enough to decode. Before the Repack I was able to receive WTVF with a 97-98% uptime, now I can't receive them at all. I don't know if they are still having problems with there antenna and transmitter as they have been very bad about providing information and updates on the status of their repack efforts. I think if they ever get their act together with the Repack that I will be able to receive WTVF with a reliable uptime.
Before the Repack I was able to receive WKRN 2 with 2 80-85 % uptime, WZTV Fox 17 with 90% uptime, WUPX My 30 with 99% uptime, After the repack I have not been able to receive WTVF, WZTV, at all. You can see how I build my antennas on my YouTube channel, it's called "On My Workbench" look for "DIY TV ANTENNA PART 1" & "DIY TV ANTENNA PART 2".
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Before the Repack I was able to receive WKRN 2 with 2 80-85 % uptime, WZTV Fox 17 with 90% uptime, WUPX My 30 with 99% uptime, After the repack I have not been able to receive WTVF, WZTV, at all.
WZTV 17 and WNAB 58 are still temporarily operating at reduced power after the repack, so that explains why you can't get them. No word on when they'll be back to full power, depends on how long it takes them to get the necessary work done on their antennas/towers.

WKRN 2 and WUXP 30 are the same as they were before the repack (same power, same frequencies), so nothing should be different for you there.

As for WTVF 5 (RF 36 and RF 5), it looks like they were still doing things with their transmissions even yesterday, after saying that their antenna work was complete, although it appears that as of right now (11/20 3PM), they are broadcasting on both frequencies at full strength in their final configurations, so hopefully you can successfully pick up one of their two frequencies now.
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Much of Bellevue is in the shadow of Nine Mile Hill for signals from the antennas gathered closely on the north side of town. Sure would be nice if WTVF would put a very low power transmitter on the Wessex Towers condo building. It would enable OTA reception for hundreds if not thousands of Bellevue residents.

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Receiving both channel 5 signals perfectly last night and today. Looks like all but 17, 44 and 58 have finally fallen into place.
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Idk why last few days my wkrn 2 has been freezing everty10 or so seconds. Just a brief glitch. I should add wkrn was my stongest signal period. I thought it was weather related as we had ivercast foul wind etc. But today is sunny and clear and its still doing it. Still only getting 17 at night
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Well learned a little lesson today thought I would share. My last post i said i was having trouble for the last few days with my stongest channels pixelating. Even wrkn 2. Well today I climbed my tower to look for problems. Followed the wire to the ground where its buried. Then got to the house and checked connection to distribution amp and television. Could not find anything wrong. I went in my bedroom and noticed I had ALL the channels which were perfect no pixelating or interruptions. Seeing how my bedroom is the end of the road for the coaxial cable I thought how the main tv in the living room should have better reception with less coaxial. I went back out to check the tv again knowing my problem was at that tv. I noticed a white wire coming from HDMI that was plugged into the surge protector that I didn't recall seeing before. It was a firestick and its power cord was running right past the antennas coaxial where it meets the tv. I asked my wife when she plugged in a firestick. Her reply solved my problem. Shr plugged it in the same day my signal went to heck. I unplugged it and what do you know got all my channels back crystal clear. Even 5 which had been kinda bad. Im assuming the electric in the power cord for the firestick messed with the signal. Anyhow hope this helps someone
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Southern Kentucky Update

WCZU-LD Channel 39 resumed broadcasting over the weekend on its new frequency (19). All 7 sub-channels are the same - none of which have any program info in the data stream which is consistent with the way it was prior to the re-pack. Also, the station has a CP to increase power to 15kw, but has applied for an STA running at 7kw. I live within just a few miles of the transmitter site. As was the case before the re-pack, the channels are difficult to watch for long periods of time. The picture pixelates often without any degradation in the signal. It would appear they have a faulty STL.

WDNZ-LD Channel 11 has added more sub-channels. 11-4 is running Classic Movies and 11-5 has The Country Network - both in 16:9 widescreen at 480i.
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I'm in Rickman; average 79 miles and 86 degrees magnetic east from Nashville towers. Direction is between 265-275 from all the far away stations not including KY which I don't try to get. I've got a CM 3777 preamp hooked up . I use an 8-bay, UHF only antenna 22' from the ground on a mast supported by the gable end of my home, so WSMV and WNPT has no chance, but I get PBS on WCTE out of Cookeville easily pointed west even though it's 7 miles south.

Before repack, I was 90% or better on WKRN, WTVF, WZTV, WNPX, MYTV, WJFB, and whatever channel 50's TBN is called. WNAB ahas always been elusive and WZTV probably the next least reliable on the UHF band. I get none of the low power stations. Since repack, I've not been getting WJFB, WZTV or WNAB. Everything else has been pretty reliable even when WTVF was downgrounded. Oh yeah; after rescanning, I found that I now get CW out of Crossville.without pointing eastward.
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The three channels you lost are still on reduced power. You should try a VHF antenna, you’d probably get good reception.
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Whats with fox17 have not seen even a blip for 3 days. 58 either. Was watching it for weeks...gone since Thanksgiving
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Whats with fox17 have not seen even a blip for 3 days. 58 either. Was watching it for weeks...gone since Thanksgiving
I've had the same experience with Fox 17 in the last week. I live just North of Bowling Green, KY. Prior to the last week and post-repack, I would get it with some consistency in the evening. Now, I am not getting a blip. 58 is still relatively weak, but I have been able to lock on to a signal in the evening.
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I reinstalled my old amplifier and WLLC-42 is still up. I thought every channel over 36 is supposed to be off the air? It has weird distortion every once in a while, which is probably 5G cellphones.
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Whats with fox17 have not seen even a blip for 3 days. 58 either. Was watching it for weeks...gone since Thanksgiving
I live about 50-55 miles east of Nashville, and I have had no problem with WZTV Fox 17. See attachment.

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I reinstalled my old amplifier and WLLC-42 is still up. I thought every channel over 36 is supposed to be off the air? It has weird distortion every once in a while, which is probably 5G cellphones.
All channels whether full power or special kind of low power called "Class A" stations are required to change channels to within the new core of channels (rf 2-36) during their assigned repack phase. WLLC is just a regular low power channel. Any regular low power stations are not assigned a repack phase. So, they can wait until either at the end of phase 10 (7/3/2020) or a year from the end of phase 10 (7/3/2021). I don't know which it is. Could someone clarify that for me?

Edit: I looked them up, and they have an expiration date on their construction permit which is set for 8/16/2021. That means they have anytime until then to change to channel 19.
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Just a heads up. WJFB is, right now, almost back to full power. They are still working on it, and maybe be done with it tomorrow. So, if you can't receive it right now, you can try again tomorrow.

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As of now 8 pm tues i have no 17. Im puzzled. Nothing has changed on my end thanksgiving night watched it perfect signal. Watched Carson for weeks every night. Now its completely disappeared. Just did a rescan amd no metv yet either hopefully your right and tomorrow i can pick it up
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All channels whether full power or special kind of low power called "Class A" stations are required to change channels to within the new core of channels (rf 2-36) during their assigned repack phase. WLLC is just a regular low power channel. Any regular low power stations are not assigned a repack phase. So, they can wait until either at the end of phase 10 (7/3/2020) or a year from the end of phase 10 (7/3/2021). I don't know which it is. Could someone clarify that for me?

Edit: I looked them up, and they have an expiration date on their construction permit which is set for 8/16/2021. That means they have anytime until then to change to channel 19.
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Just a heads up. WJFB is, right now, almost back to full power. They are still working on it, and maybe be done with it tomorrow. So, if you can't receive it right now, you can try again tomorrow.
I checked the signal meter on several channels yesterday. WJFB has gone up a lot. It was hovering about 50% before, but now it’s around 75-80%.
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Just a heads up. WJFB is, right now, almost back to full power. They are still working on it, and maybe be done with it tomorrow. So, if you can't receive it right now, you can try again tomorrow.
From 60 miles north of Nashville, a re-scan picked up WJFB last night. Still not getting any signal for Fox 17 which is a development within the last week or so.
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T-Band FCC Auction Affect UHF Channels 14-20

I wonder if Trip knows anything about this, but I saw that the FCC is wanting to auction off the T-band spectrum of 470MHz to 512MHz. For those who don't know what that is, the band involves first responder communications, but it also crosses over into RF channels 14-20 on the UHF TV band. With the TV repack completing next year, tightly packing in all of the channel assignments, wouldn't constant broadcasting of cell towers on the T-Band affect the lower UHF channels? I figure that police and fire communications use this band with lower power and have minimal effect, but if you've got something constantly broadcasting, then it seems we'd have some reception issues.
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